Vista - Vista > Win98 > XP

Hoping that with some time passing, someone has found a way for Vista to map
a Win98SE drive! before the wrong answer is tried, when Vista tries to map a
98 drive, and aaccess it, Vista asks for a User name and password. 98 needs a
passord, not a user name.

I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over to
Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
right.

Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a Win98SE?
When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.

"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over
to
> Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
> right.

If you're trying to move a file from 98 to Vista it should not be a problem
via the network as long as you're at Vista "pulling" it off of 98. You just
can't access Vista from 98.

> Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a Win98SE?

They connect, but you must be at the Vista computer to do anything.

> When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.

Yup, that's what happens.

Windows 98 can not see or use a NTFS file.
--
Paul


"Shell" wrote:

> Hoping that with some time passing, someone has found a way for Vista to map
> a Win98SE drive! before the wrong answer is tried, when Vista tries to map a
> 98 drive, and aaccess it, Vista asks for a User name and password. 98 needs a
> passord, not a user name.
>
> I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over to
> Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
> right.
>
> Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a Win98SE?
> When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
>
>

I don't think that matters. You can still map a drive to a NTFS volume from
9x-- DOS even. 98 doesn't actually talk to the NTFS driver; rather, it's
the networking services that talk on 98's behalf.

Jason


"PaulB" <PaulB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Windows 98 can not see or use a NTFS file.
> --
> Paul
>
>
> "Shell" wrote:
>
>> Hoping that with some time passing, someone has found a way for Vista to
>> map
>> a Win98SE drive! before the wrong answer is tried, when Vista tries to
>> map a
>> 98 drive, and aaccess it, Vista asks for a User name and password. 98
>> needs a
>> passord, not a user name.
>>
>> I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over
>> to
>> Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
>> right.
>>
>> Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a
>> Win98SE?
>> When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
>>
>>

I'd be interested in the solution if you've been able to make this
connection work.
--
Paul


"Jason Yates" wrote:

> I don't think that matters. You can still map a drive to a NTFS volume from
> 9x-- DOS even. 98 doesn't actually talk to the NTFS driver; rather, it's
> the networking services that talk on 98's behalf.
>
> Jason
>
>
> "PaulB" <PaulB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F61018F6-E1CD-47F9-892E-6C472BCBDBF0@microsoft.com...
> > Windows 98 can not see or use a NTFS file.
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "Shell" wrote:
> >
> >> Hoping that with some time passing, someone has found a way for Vista to
> >> map
> >> a Win98SE drive! before the wrong answer is tried, when Vista tries to
> >> map a
> >> 98 drive, and aaccess it, Vista asks for a User name and password. 98
> >> needs a
> >> passord, not a user name.
> >>
> >> I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over
> >> to
> >> Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
> >> right.
> >>
> >> Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a
> >> Win98SE?
> >> When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
> >>
> >>
>

Ron,

Thanks for the input, but as I explained, when Vista tries to connect to
Win98, Vista asks for a Username and Password, and as I pointed out, Win98
doesn't require a username, only a password so how would you suggest Vista
jump over that Username - without of course compromising security?

S

"RonC" wrote:

>
> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0DEF85E7-666C-4733-9117-4C1B5973528A@microsoft.com...
> >
> > I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over
> to
> > Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
> > right.
> > Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a Win98SE?
>
> They connect, but you must be at the Vista computer to do anything.
>
> > When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
>
> Yup, that's what happens.
>
>
>
>

Hi,
I set up my old Windows 98SE computer on my network with a Vista Home Premium
compute ( just to try) and set a drive on the 98 to share and went to
Network on Vista and the drive appears. I right clicked on it and mapped a
network drive. It mapped fine with no User name or password required. I
have Password Protected Sharing turn off on my Vista machine, however.
--
Paul


"Shell" wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Thanks for the input, but as I explained, when Vista tries to connect to
> Win98, Vista asks for a Username and Password, and as I pointed out, Win98
> doesn't require a username, only a password so how would you suggest Vista
> jump over that Username - without of course compromising security?
>
> S
>
> "RonC" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0DEF85E7-666C-4733-9117-4C1B5973528A@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it over
> > to
> > > Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick - ya -
> > > right.
> > > Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a Win98SE?
> >
> > They connect, but you must be at the Vista computer to do anything.
> >
> > > When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
> >
> > Yup, that's what happens.
> >
> >
> >
> >

Sorry, I don't know why Vista is asking for a username and password. I never
experienced that problem. My Win98 machines allow anyone to access them
(ain't that great!!!) without asking any questions. So far I've been doing
that with other Win98 machines, Vista, and visiting Macs. But this only
applies to those specific Win98 files that are being actively shared; in
other words it's not enough to just turn on Win98's file and printer
sharing. The folder you want to share needs to be shared. The great thing
about Win98 is that the folder can be c:\ !!! Perhaps you have added an
additional layer of complexity by associating a password with the Win98 item
you're sharing. I am not doing that.

Regarding your comment about Win98 not requiring a username, when you push
the "start button" there should be an option labled "Log Off <username>..."
If you choose that option, you will be given a dialog box asking for a
username and password to log in to Win98 while at the Win98 machine. As I
said before, Vista has never asked me for that regardless of whether or not
I have a login password on Won98.

"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Ron,
>
> Thanks for the input, but as I explained, when Vista tries to connect to
> Win98, Vista asks for a Username and Password, and as I pointed out, Win98
> doesn't require a username, only a password so how would you suggest Vista
> jump over that Username - without of course compromising security?
>
> S
>
> "RonC" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0DEF85E7-666C-4733-9117-4C1B5973528A@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > I'm tired of saving a Win98SE file to a Memory stick, and moving it
over
> > to
> > > Vista that pops up a message telling me I have to format the stick -
ya -
> > > right.
> > > Has Micro$oft coughecdf anything that will let Vista connect to a
Win98SE?
> >
> > They connect, but you must be at the Vista computer to do anything.
> >
> > > When Win98SE tries to open a Vista Public folder, Win98SE locks up.
> >
> > Yup, that's what happens.
> >
> >
> >
> >

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:33:11 -0700, "RonC" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Sorry, I don't know why Vista is asking for a username and password. I never
>experienced that problem. My Win98 machines allow anyone to access them
>(ain't that great!!!) without asking any questions.

That is great, as long as your network is physically closed (e.g.
non-routable NetBEUI, no WiFi).

It's dumb if you bind F&PS to TCP/IP and then take an
Internet-accessible IP from your ISP, binding your PC visibly to the
Internet. Look up Opaserv, if you don't know why that's a bad idea.

>it's not enough to just turn on Win98's file and printer sharing.
>The folder you want to share needs to be shared.

Yep. This is a vast improvement on XP and Vista, which wave admin
shares that are hidden only from you - the names are always the same,
so malware just has to brute-force the account password.

>The great thing about Win98 is that the folder can be c:\ !!!

That's REALLY stupid. You'd allow malware to edit itself into
Autoexec.bat, Win.ini, drop into StartUp, etc. so I would share only
what I want shared, and share read-only unless I need writes.



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To one who only has a hammer,
everything looks like a nail
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I had the same problem as we used to use differing passwords for different
parts of our 98se units from xp and differing types of access prior to adding
a Vista machine. Once Vista has seen a password requirement it does not seem
easy to go back to a password free access even if settings are changed.

The good news is that if you enter your old password a few times you will
eventually get access from Vista and then it will be there each time you log
on. I have tried this by password access on the shared folder in 98se and
then gaining access from vista with the password after ignoring the dailogue
box a few times.

My problem now is to access Vista from 98se. I think I will upgrade to 98se
XP as none of the chages so far have helped.


"Shell" wrote: