Vista - Problem with looking up UNC names

I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
\\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
saying that the network path was not found.

Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
it will work fine.

I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.

So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
in my network.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
\\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
saying that the network path was not found.

Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
it will work fine.

I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.

So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
in my network.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.

I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> saying that the network path was not found.
>
> Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> it will work fine.
>
> I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
>
> So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> in my network.
>
> Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
enabled over TCP/IP No

When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?

Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*

"The Outsider" wrote:

> Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
>
> I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > saying that the network path was not found.
> >
> > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > it will work fine.
> >
> > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> >
> > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > in my network.
> >
> > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

We have seen this case before, but don't remember the solution. Try to setup TCP/IP manually. Please post back with the result.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:842D452A-F9AA-49C6-861F-B9F16D7C2096@microsoft.com...
Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
enabled over TCP/IP No

When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?

Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*

"The Outsider" wrote:

> Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
>
> I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > saying that the network path was not found.
> >
> > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > it will work fine.
> >
> > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> >
> > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > in my network.
> >
> > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

It makes no differnce if I use DHCP or set it up manually. Everything is the
same.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> We have seen this case before, but don't remember the solution. Try to setup TCP/IP manually. Please post back with the result.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:842D452A-F9AA-49C6-861F-B9F16D7C2096@microsoft.com...
> Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
> connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
> enabled over TCP/IP No
>
> When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
> enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
> that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?
>
> Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*
>
> "The Outsider" wrote:
>
> > Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> > still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> > then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
> >
> > I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > > saying that the network path was not found.
> > >
> > > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > > it will work fine.
> > >
> > > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> > >
> > > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > > in my network.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

Have you tried to disable IPv6?

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:78980AA4-8E3C-40D6-ACFE-99EE466B2C62@microsoft.com...
It makes no differnce if I use DHCP or set it up manually. Everything is the
same.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> We have seen this case before, but don't remember the solution. Try to setup TCP/IP manually. Please post back with the result.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:842D452A-F9AA-49C6-861F-B9F16D7C2096@microsoft.com...
> Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
> connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
> enabled over TCP/IP No
>
> When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
> enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
> that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?
>
> Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*
>
> "The Outsider" wrote:
>
> > Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> > still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> > then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
> >
> > I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
> >
> > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> >
> > > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> > >
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > > saying that the network path was not found.
> > >
> > > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > > it will work fine.
> > >
> > > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> > >
> > > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > > in my network.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

I have tried to disable IPv6, i was looking around google for some answers
and I found that if I type nbtstat -n in the command prompt, the message
returned is:

Failed to access NetBT driver -- NetBT may not be loaded

I might just end up formatting my system and starting from scratch again,
but it really would be awesome to solve this little mystery.


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Have you tried to disable IPv6?
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:78980AA4-8E3C-40D6-ACFE-99EE466B2C62@microsoft.com...
> It makes no differnce if I use DHCP or set it up manually. Everything is the
> same.
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > We have seen this case before, but don't remember the solution. Try to setup TCP/IP manually. Please post back with the result.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:842D452A-F9AA-49C6-861F-B9F16D7C2096@microsoft.com...
> > Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
> > connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
> > enabled over TCP/IP No
> >
> > When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
> > enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
> > that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?
> >
> > Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*
> >
> > "The Outsider" wrote:
> >
> > > Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> > > still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> > > then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
> > >
> > > I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
> > >
> > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > > > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > > > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > > > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > > > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > > > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > > > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > > > saying that the network path was not found.
> > > >
> > > > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > > > it will work fine.
> > > >
> > > > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > > > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > > > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > > > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> > > >
> > > > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > > > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > > > in my network.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

Yes, we have a NetBIOS issue.



NetBIOS and WINSFailed to access NetBT driver -- NetBT may not be loaded How can I install NetBEUI on WinXP? How to configure WINS for a non-WINS client ...

http://www.chicagotech.net/netbios&wins.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:14D6A443-0093-4408-9ED2-8DBB0ACF7C11@microsoft.com...
I have tried to disable IPv6, i was looking around google for some answers
and I found that if I type nbtstat -n in the command prompt, the message
returned is:

Failed to access NetBT driver -- NetBT may not be loaded

I might just end up formatting my system and starting from scratch again,
but it really would be awesome to solve this little mystery.


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Have you tried to disable IPv6?
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:78980AA4-8E3C-40D6-ACFE-99EE466B2C62@microsoft.com...
> It makes no differnce if I use DHCP or set it up manually. Everything is the
> same.
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > We have seen this case before, but don't remember the solution. Try to setup TCP/IP manually. Please post back with the result.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "The Outsider" <TheOutsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:842D452A-F9AA-49C6-861F-B9F16D7C2096@microsoft.com...
> > Whoa, whoa hold on here. I just looked at the "details" for my network
> > connection under status, and at the bottom of the list, it says NetBIOS
> > enabled over TCP/IP No
> >
> > When i go into the properties in IPv4 to change this, it says its on
> > enabled... Am I looking in the wrong place? Or could there be another cause
> > that my NetBIOS over TCP/IP is disabled?
> >
> > Looks like you may have been right on the money. *thumbs up*
> >
> > "The Outsider" wrote:
> >
> > > Very good suggestion, im suprized I didnt think of that myself. However,
> > > still no go. I even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP, restarting the PC,
> > > then enableing NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and restarting just for kicks.
> > >
> > > I appreciate the help still, any other suggestions maybe?
> > >
> > > "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sound like name resolution issue. Make sure you enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > > > "The Outsider" <The Outsider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13B337C7-AEAF-4D6C-B6AF-9BA22BEB3FBA@microsoft.com...
> > > > I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem I have is that when I
> > > > join my home network, (with the same workgroup name as my other pc's) I
> > > > cannot view ANY of the other pc's in my network, only my localhost comes up
> > > > NATHAN-PC and my router comes up. I know the names of the other PC's in my
> > > > network. So if i just try typing in the path so for example
> > > > \\nathan-laptop\shared, it should work, but it doesn't work. I get a message
> > > > saying that the network path was not found.
> > > >
> > > > Now, if i just type the IP address of that pc example \\192.168.1.116\shared
> > > > it will work fine.
> > > >
> > > > I had installed this same Vista previously on the same pc and hardware and
> > > > this problem never occured. Any suggestions to get UNC hostnames to work? I
> > > > have all the latest Windows Updates installed. Network Discovery is turned
> > > > on, Windows firewall was turned off to troubleshoot.
> > > >
> > > > So once again the two symptoms are, typeing in a hostname for a pc does not
> > > > work, however entering the IP address works. And I cannot view the other PC's
> > > > in my network.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated