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Disconnected Network on Domain
  1. #1


    Kirk Miller Guest

    Disconnected Network on Domain

    We have been having network issues with Vista at my company that parrallel
    many of the "Network Location" issues posted in this group.

    When computers are joined to my domain, they work fine most of the time.
    However, sometimes they will go to the "Local Access Only" state. They have
    lost a DHCP number and are now assigned the 169 address. A Reboot causes
    the machine to come back. However, simply repairing the connection does not.

    If we take the machine and remove it from the domain, the issue Stops. We
    are thinking that this is due to Vista turning off the network location
    awareness when on the domain.



    Does anyone have any thought on why a domain computer would simply decide it
    has local connectivity only? These are not wireless, the connection is good,
    and there is not a reason to loose connection I can see.

    Thanks!

    Kirk

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  2. #2


    Robert L [MVP - Networking] Guest

    Re: Disconnected Network on Domain

    Are you running windows as DHCP or router? What's the switch model #?

    Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
    Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
    How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
    "Kirk Miller" <UCanSendemailtothefollowing-kirk@ia.ua.edu> wrote in message news:61E0B3A0-CC30-4654-8489-6D8EAB26EBB5@microsoft.com...
    We have been having network issues with Vista at my company that parrallel
    many of the "Network Location" issues posted in this group.

    When computers are joined to my domain, they work fine most of the time.
    However, sometimes they will go to the "Local Access Only" state. They have
    lost a DHCP number and are now assigned the 169 address. A Reboot causes
    the machine to come back. However, simply repairing the connection does not.

    If we take the machine and remove it from the domain, the issue Stops. We
    are thinking that this is due to Vista turning off the network location
    awareness when on the domain.

    Does anyone have any thought on why a domain computer would simply decide it
    has local connectivity only? These are not wireless, the connection is good,
    and there is not a reason to loose connection I can see.

    Thanks!

    Kirk

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Kirk Miller Guest

    Re: Disconnected Network on Domain

    We have a 2003 Server runing MS DHCP. All patches are up to date.

    The network itself is catalyst routers from cisco. 6500 series. The
    network is a simple single domain with one address range of the form (we are
    not using private addresses, this is just example.)

    Address = 192.168.130.x - 192.168.131.x
    Gateway = 192.168.130.1
    Mask 255.255.254

    Kirk



    "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

    > Are you running windows as DHCP or router? What's the switch model #?
    >
    > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
    > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
    > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
    > "Kirk Miller" <UCanSendemailtothefollowing-kirk@ia.ua.edu> wrote in message news:61E0B3A0-CC30-4654-8489-6D8EAB26EBB5@microsoft.com...
    > We have been having network issues with Vista at my company that parrallel
    > many of the "Network Location" issues posted in this group.
    >
    > When computers are joined to my domain, they work fine most of the time.
    > However, sometimes they will go to the "Local Access Only" state. They have
    > lost a DHCP number and are now assigned the 169 address. A Reboot causes
    > the machine to come back. However, simply repairing the connection does not.
    >
    > If we take the machine and remove it from the domain, the issue Stops. We
    > are thinking that this is due to Vista turning off the network location
    > awareness when on the domain.
    >
    > Does anyone have any thought on why a domain computer would simply decide it
    > has local connectivity only? These are not wireless, the connection is good,
    > and there is not a reason to loose connection I can see.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Kirk


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  4. #4


    Steve J Guest

    RE: Disconnected Network on Domain

    Hi, similar issues:

    I have an SBS SP1 domain (not R2) connected to netgear router that provides
    DHCP. Six WINXPPro clients connected with no issues.

    Now I am connecting Windows VISTA Business clients and having the same issue
    on all:

    When trying to connect no clients to the domain (lercabo.local) I get the
    error message "Unable to find the Active Directory". I have correctly set up
    accounts for the VISTA clients on the SBS. The only way round it is to force
    the DNS entry on the client computer to the IP address of the SBS server.
    Then all works fine and I am able to browse the shared resources on the
    server and see all attached clients.

    However, at this point IE is unable to resolve the dns of our external
    website www.lercabo.com! I can resolve ALL other websites: google, msn,
    yahoo, etc ... bu tnot www.lercabo.com.

    This ONLY happens with my 3 new VISTA Business clients. The XPPro clients
    work just fine with DNS set to automatic on each client.

    Any ideas???

    Steve

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  5. #5


    Lisa Lyons Guest

    Same problem

    I've been having the exact same problem with one of my Vista PC's. Our network is a little more complicated, but basically, we authenticate through a firewall, which handles our DHCP, and the AD server is a separate device which handles our AD authentication.

    The Vista machine in question is quite a powerful machine, with 4Gb RAM and an Intel Core2 CPU running at 1.86Ghz.

    Vista is the 32bit OS, applied as an upgrade from XP Pro SP3, to Vista Enterprise SP1, on an MSDN license.

    Occasionally, usually when explorer.exe crashes, the machine looses access to the domain and basically becomes stand-alone.

    To fix it, I drop it out of the domain, to a workgroup, reboot, then log it back into the domain. It works fine after this.

    Until the failure happens again. It can happen on startup, so it's not always due to a failure of explorer.exe

    Does anyone have any suggestions?

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  6. #6


    Lisa Lyons Guest

    I should add

    I forgot to say, the PC in question has a static IP reserved for it, it is not running DHCP.

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  7. #7


    Gordon Guest

    Re: Same problem

    "Lisa Lyons" wrote in message news:200911444154llyons@xxxxxx

    > I've been having the exact same problem
    As WHAT?

    Posted and mailed

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