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Old 08-27-2007   #1 (permalink)
Glenn


 
 

Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.

Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine running
2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into the
workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).

I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I have
the following:
- on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
network folder
- on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
- on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the workgroup.

If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way they
do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.

Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the only
one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).

Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
difference.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to find
a solution for a few days here...

Thanks!



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-28-2007   #2 (permalink)
Robert L [MVP - Networking]


 
 

Re: Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

Sound like master browser issue. Any errors in the Event Viewer? Or this search result may help,

Computer Browser
The computer browser is to display a directory of all known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the browser service is to ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm

Troubleshooting computer browsing issues
The Computer Browser service on local computer started and stopped · The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This operation ...
www.chicagotech.net/computerbrowsingissues.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F83CD2E5-CD27-4BEA-94C4-6E5CB7CF7DFC@xxxxxx
I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.

Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine running
2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into the
workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).

I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I have
the following:
- on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
network folder
- on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
- on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the workgroup.

If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way they
do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.

Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the only
one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).

Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
difference.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to find
a solution for a few days here...

Thanks!


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-28-2007   #3 (permalink)
Paul Russell


 
 

Re: Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

make sure they have the same workgroup name ......


"Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F83CD2E5-CD27-4BEA-94C4-6E5CB7CF7DFC@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.
>
> Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine
> running
> 2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into
> the
> workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).
>
> I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I
> have
> the following:
> - on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
> network folder
> - on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
> browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
> - on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the
> workgroup.
>
> If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
> vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
> Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
> vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way
> they
> do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.
>
> Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the
> only
> one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
> but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
> auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).
>
> Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
> difference.
>
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to
> find
> a solution for a few days here...
>
> Thanks!
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-28-2007   #4 (permalink)
Glenn


 
 

Re: Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

All machines are in the same workgroup.

"Paul Russell" wrote:
Quote:

> make sure they have the same workgroup name ......
>
>
> "Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F83CD2E5-CD27-4BEA-94C4-6E5CB7CF7DFC@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.
> >
> > Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine
> > running
> > 2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into
> > the
> > workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).
> >
> > I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I
> > have
> > the following:
> > - on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
> > network folder
> > - on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
> > browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
> > - on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the
> > workgroup.
> >
> > If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
> > vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
> > Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
> > vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way
> > they
> > do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.
> >
> > Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the
> > only
> > one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
> > but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
> > auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).
> >
> > Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
> > difference.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to
> > find
> > a solution for a few days here...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-29-2007   #5 (permalink)
Glenn


 
 

Re: Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

Bob,

Thanks for your reply. Your link on computer browser led me to seek out
Browstat and I ended up finding the following excellent page (with download
links for browstat) that is a great resource for anyone troubleshooting
computer browser problems:

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...microsoft.html

After cleaning out redundant protocols (NetBEUI), changing NetBios over
Tcp/Ip on all machines from default or disabled to enabled, and enabling RRS
on the vista machines, all is working fine and browstat reports no errors on
any machine.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
Quote:

> Sound like master browser issue. Any errors in the Event Viewer? Or this search result may help,
>
> Computer Browser
> The computer browser is to display a directory of all known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the browser service is to ...
> www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm
>
> Troubleshooting computer browsing issues
> The Computer Browser service on local computer started and stopped · The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This operation ...
> www.chicagotech.net/computerbrowsingissues.htm
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F83CD2E5-CD27-4BEA-94C4-6E5CB7CF7DFC@xxxxxx
> I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.
>
> Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine running
> 2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into the
> workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).
>
> I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I have
> the following:
> - on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
> network folder
> - on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
> browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
> - on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the workgroup.
>
> If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
> vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
> Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
> vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way they
> do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.
>
> Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the only
> one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
> but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
> auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).
>
> Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
> difference.
>
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to find
> a solution for a few days here...
>
> Thanks!
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-29-2007   #6 (permalink)
Robert L [MVP - Networking]


 
 

Re: Vista and Win2K server in workgroup

Thank you for the feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:2E44E84E-4DE8-4043-BFB3-DA0D033BB324@xxxxxx
Bob,

Thanks for your reply. Your link on computer browser led me to seek out
Browstat and I ended up finding the following excellent page (with download
links for browstat) that is a great resource for anyone troubleshooting
computer browser problems:

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...microsoft.html

After cleaning out redundant protocols (NetBEUI), changing NetBios over
Tcp/Ip on all machines from default or disabled to enabled, and enabling RRS
on the vista machines, all is working fine and browstat reports no errors on
any machine.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
Quote:

> Sound like master browser issue. Any errors in the Event Viewer? Or this search result may help,
>
> Computer Browser
> The computer browser is to display a directory of all known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the browser service is to ...
> www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm
>
> Troubleshooting computer browsing issues
> The Computer Browser service on local computer started and stopped · The Computer Browser service terminated with the following error: This operation ...
> www.chicagotech.net/computerbrowsingissues.htm
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Glenn" <Glenn@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F83CD2E5-CD27-4BEA-94C4-6E5CB7CF7DFC@xxxxxx
> I am operating a small office network as a workgroup.
>
> Everything was fine with 5 PC's/laptops running 2K Pro and 1 machine running
> 2K Server. All machines could see all others (by name) when browsing into the
> workgroup under Entire Network (or Computers Near Me).
>
> I have replaced 4 older desktops/laptops with Vista machines, and now I have
> the following:
> - on the 4 vista machines, the 2K server machine does not show up in the
> network folder
> - on the 2K server machine, the four Vista machines do not show up when I
> browse into the workgroup under "Entire Network".
> - on the remaining 2K Pro machine, all 6 computers show up in the workgroup.
>
> If I manually enter the IP address "\\192.168.1.xx" of the server on the
> vista machines, then it finds the machine and shows the available shares.
> Same on the server, I can enter the IP address and it will find any of the
> vista machines. But I really need them all to show up, by name, the way they
> do on the one remaining 2K Pro machine.
>
> Only other relevant point I can think of is that the Server box is the only
> one with multiple and static IP's (3 IP addresses on one network adapter,
> but all still internal IP's: 192.168.1.x). All other machines have
> auto-assigned IP addresses (in the 192.168.1.x subnet).
>
> Tried turning off Windows Firewall on one Vista machine, but made no
> difference.
>
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, a I have been trying to find
> a solution for a few days here...
>
> Thanks!
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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