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Old 12-15-2007   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Vista SP1 RC through Windows Update!

The long and short of the ms artictle states simply this:

On 32-bit Windows Vista computers with 4Gb of memory installed you may enable the PAE boot switch to allow the operating system to see the maximum amount of memory. The BOOT.INI file no longer exists in Windows Vista, to configure boot options you must use the “BCDEdit” boot configuration editor, in Administrator mode obviously, that is included in Windows Vista.

To Enable PAE Boot Option

Start the command prompt by typing “CMD” in the Start menu’s Search space, hold CRTL+Shift+Enter and this will launch the command windows in Administrative mode.

At the command prompt type: BCDEdit /set PAE forceenable

Says nothing about a special kernel... I just never saw it working, nor did my friend who also upgraded to 4gb (and eventually x64). Odd.

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Re: Vista SP1 RC through Windows Update!

in the end.. what is the advantage of keeping 32bit?
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in the end.. what is the advantage of keeping 32bit?
Better compatability for certain applications and drivers. Quite frankly some hardware / software just doesn't work in 64 bit. Other then that... none. Hence why I have no qualms running 64 bit right now
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64 is the future for sure! I just hope software vendors realize this.
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I had Sp1 Beta went 4 update before i could even install it.
Then i went through the candidate program it had done more harm to my vista Ultimate then an actual release version .
try to uninstall it you CAN"T it leave's 2 files be that are un removelble.

then left a water mark on my right hand side of my desk top.

i have a hack to remove the water mark it's not really a hack it'a been out now for a few years but it allows you to view files not normaly veiwed in windows hidden programs.

it just changed 3 lines in the sp1 beta that removes what ever line you don't wan't showing,

plus it wiped out my Licenced registration key and it wouldn't allow me to put my CD : PF: ID: Key back in had to get a brannd new one from microsoft for another one of there screw ups before you try Betas READ before you try and if you install it and it screwes up after you except the policy not anyones fault after if you can't remove the beta but in this instance microsoft got held accountaible for there Big Screw up and they will replace what you licence providing you have a valid RTM CD OEMS there not responcible you have to go back to where you bought it from this what where told from Microsoft here in Canada there Head Office is In Missasaga Ontario Newbrewwick is there tech support office which gave me the heads up.

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Also You Can Order Windows Vista Home & Premium & Office &Ultimate In 32/64 Bit DVD's that allow you to run Both Applications and programs... doesn't hurt to check into it Best Buy Here In Toronto was selllling but accourding to the Manifacture HP/Dell/ETC there manifactures have cds but to get them in fast enough if you bought one of there computer with in the Warrenty you might be Eligable for there up grade providing you kept there warrenties up with them.
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Re: Vista SP1 RC through Windows Update!

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The long and short of the ms artictle states simply this:

On 32-bit Windows Vista computers with 4Gb of memory installed you may enable the PAE boot switch to allow the operating system to see the maximum amount of memory. The BOOT.INI file no longer exists in Windows Vista, to configure boot options you must use the “BCDEdit” boot configuration editor, in Administrator mode obviously, that is included in Windows Vista.

To Enable PAE Boot Option

Start the command prompt by typing “CMD” in the Start menu’s Search space, hold CRTL+Shift+Enter and this will launch the command windows in Administrative mode.

At the command prompt type: BCDEdit /set PAE forceenable

Says nothing about a special kernel... I just never saw it working, nor did my friend who also upgraded to 4gb (and eventually x64). Odd.

It worked for mt just went into [START] Then [RUN] Command Then Entered BCDEdit /set PAE forceenable Hit [Enter] and it it said it worked that was it anyhting else we need to do lolol
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Oh it said it worked for me too, "the command completed successfully" i believe is what it states. Still doesnt make use of the full 4gb though.
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Re: Vista SP1 RC through Windows Update!

A couple of selected quotes from a KB article on using PAE in Vista:

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For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements:

- The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space. Chipsets that have this capability include the following:Intel 975X, Intel P965, Intel 955X on Socket 775. Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU. - The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.

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The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.

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An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.



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Other drivers might load in PAE mode but cause system instability by directly modifying system page table entries (PTE). These drivers expect 32-bit page table entries but receive 64-bit PTEs in PAE mode instead.

The most common PAE compatibility issue for drivers involves direct memory access (DMA) transfers and map register allocation. Many devices that support DMA, typically 32-bit adapters, cannot perform 64-bit physical addressing......
Source: The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed


I am perfectly open to more knowledgeable user's instruction on the subject, but at this point here is my patented Highly cynical personal translation into New York English:


(1) You can enable PAE mode, but will be limited by the operating system to around 3.12GB of physical memory anyhow.

(2) If you enable PAE mode, and run a PAE~incompatible driver
your computer will probably crash as soon as the driver attempts a DMA (Direct memory Access), or other non-64 bit compliant operation.

(3) Micro$$oft says you need a modern chipset, and a 64 bit OS to run more than 4GB of RAM.



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Re: Vista SP1 RC through Windows Update!

The "gadget" has been on Digital Life since late September.
If you install SP1 and you have an "UNACTIVATED" copy of Vista, it goes into countdown mode, based on which RC you get you can get up to 120 days.
I think the article would be complete if someone posted solutions to either, deactivate the countdown or how to safely uninstall the update.
SP1 slows your machine DOWN, and there are even more compatibility problems with it.
If you have no problems with SP1 Hallelujah!!, but you're probably not having much fun.
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