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Old 07-11-2008   #1 (permalink)


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Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here



I'd say its about time that Microsoft done something:

By Rick Whiting, Kevin McLaughlin, ChannelWeb
1:17 PM EDT Tue. Jul. 08, 2008

Windows Vista has been dragged through the mud by the bullies with which it competes, but those bullies are about to get hit with some long overdue retaliation.

That's the message from Brad Brooks, Corporate Vice President of Windows Consumer Products, who in a Tuesday keynote speech at Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT)'s Worldwide Partner Conference in Houston attempted to swat away the negative mojo around the OS that has built up since its launch.

"There are a lot of myths around Windows Vista. We know the story is very different than what our competitors would like us to think," Brooks told the audience.

In a clear dig at Apple (NSDQ:AAPL) and it's 'I'm a PC, I'm a Mac' advertisements, Brooks suggested that Microsoft is preparing to retaliate against "noisy competitors" with a major new multi-million dollar advertising campaign, something that many channel partners have been hoping the software giant would do for months.

"You thought the sleeping giant was still sleeping. We've woken up and it's time to take this message forward. This is the true story of Vista," Brooks said.

Security is one of the areas in which Vista simply hasn't received its due, Brooks said.


Read the full article here - Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here - IT Channel - IT Channel News by CRN and VARBusiness.


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Old 07-11-2008   #2 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

My wife likes those Mac commercials, she thinks they are cute...I find them annoying. I never really thought about the lack of Microsoft advertising, I bought Vista without the ads anyway.
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Old 07-11-2008   #3 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

Why dont they just fight like with like and do the same sort of ads.
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Old 07-11-2008   #4 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

Have you guys checked some of the Apple forums?

The Macs have bigger problems then Vista ever did.

MS should have sued Apple 2 years ago.

I've use a Mac on many occasions ans you could give me one yet alone get me to use it regularly. I'd go back to Win95 first.

Really the ones doing the bulling are the ones that have to have everything done for them anyway. If they screw it up they cant possibly hope to fix it with the limited knowledge they have. And they are the ones that love to tinker with things they dont understand.

XP had more problems then Vista when it came out. Just look back in the Xp forum treads. People wanted to tar and feather Bill when it came out. Now its..pryed from my cold dead hands?


Get a Mac.

You would not last a day and you'll be back to Vista.

It works.
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Old 07-11-2008   #5 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

Quote:
"Windows Vista is a good product," Brooks told partners. "We need to make our voices heard."
18 months after Vista was released RTM, this months 2008 July APC mag (page 16) talks about how bad they hate the indexing and search services, the first sentance of the article says he used a beta copy of windows The other articles talk about how ubuntu is a better upgrade then Vista and titled the magainze "Windows Killer: Linux comes of age"

That guy Brooks was right about some who dont know why something changed with vista over xp or never learned the new features or how it works, they just decided its bad for everyone and keep thinking and saying it forever
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Old 07-11-2008   #6 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

I am very happy with Vista x64 Ultimate. I found 2000 and XP more irratating than Vista. 18 minutes to install. I did disable UAC and DEP. My firewall and router are properly configured. I don't go to strange sites.

I have Redhat Fedora 7. It is a pain to get file sharing and web services to work right. I am ready to get Windows Home Server.
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Old 07-12-2008   #7 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

To be honest, I have loved Vista since I first tried it - on sub-par hardware.

In fact, I used Vista as an excuse first to upgrade my sub-par hardware to not so sub-par (but still sub-par) hardware, then to justify building this rig.

The upshot of all the complaining is that many of the people poo-pooing Vista as the same ones that did the same to XP. And that is sad.

Ed Bott did a piece a couple of months ago not only stating what I just said, but actually *proving* it (thanks, in part, to Google archive).

The worst part about it is that people complain about UAC being in the way. Ask them to get on a Mac running Leopard, and create an administrator user - and then go install some software. Or change the wireless router you're using. Or change the Time sync service settings. Or change the power settings.

I know - I am running a lab with 25 of those pretty 20" iMacs.

And for those that think that *nix is any better, guess what? You run your regular apps as a standard user, which may or may not be a part of the wheel group - but installations and such still require (you guessed it) root privileges.

Vista isn't perfect - hell, no OS is - but guess what? It's the best thing that M$ has put out in a long time.

Another thing that I have noticed is that the *majority* of Vista related problems I see are on OEM machines, and *in particular* HPs....and yet the OS gets slammed left and right and no one takes into account that HP could be at fault here....
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Old 07-12-2008   #8 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
To be honest, I have loved Vista since I first tried it - on sub-par hardware.

In fact, I used Vista as an excuse first to upgrade my sub-par hardware to not so sub-par (but still sub-par) hardware, then to justify building this rig.

The upshot of all the complaining is that many of the people poo-pooing Vista as the same ones that did the same to XP. And that is sad.

Ed Bott did a piece a couple of months ago not only stating what I just said, but actually *proving* it (thanks, in part, to Google archive).

The worst part about it is that people complain about UAC being in the way. Ask them to get on a Mac running Leopard, and create an administrator user - and then go install some software. Or change the wireless router you're using. Or change the Time sync service settings. Or change the power settings.

I know - I am running a lab with 25 of those pretty 20" iMacs.

And for those that think that *nix is any better, guess what? You run your regular apps as a standard user, which may or may not be a part of the wheel group - but installations and such still require (you guessed it) root privileges.

Vista isn't perfect - hell, no OS is - but guess what? It's the best thing that M$ has put out in a long time.

Another thing that I have noticed is that the *majority* of Vista related problems I see are on OEM machines, and *in particular* HPs....and yet the OS gets slammed left and right and no one takes into account that HP could be at fault here....
I can say very much the same thing. I upgraded my hardware not because Vista ran poorly on it, but because I now had an excuse to do so in order to get maximum benefit of the new features in Vista.

I'll actually face a similar scenario in about a year's time when Diablo III is released - I now have the perfect escuse to pull out R 4000 on a good screen card
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Old 07-12-2008   #9 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

I am new to Vista. I got my new computer (OEM - HP) online in February of 2008. I went right from Windows Me into Vista. Let me say, OMG, what a big difference, it's like night and day. The Only problems I have encountered are the ones that were self inflicted. I have not had a problems with updates as many have posted. I must agree with the others here on that the haters of Vista are the ones creating their own problems blindly. That is not to say that I don't tinker in where I shouldn't but I do and I learn from that. I want to know why it did what it did when I did it and how to fix it, so I don't do that again. Cudos to this forum, This was the first forum I found for help using Vista and belive me I needed it. I love Vista and all that it offers. I learn something about it everyday that I use it weather it be big or small. Thank guys and gals.
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Old 07-12-2008   #10 (permalink)


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Re: Microsoft: The Vista Bullying Stops Here

In terms of OS usages, ME to Vista is fairly a Quantum Leap. My hats of to you for making such a big jump.
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