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Old 09-26-2009   #1 (permalink)


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If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

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There’s no doubting that financially, and that’s the only thing that matters really, Windows Vista was a disaster. Microsoft shareholders must not have been happy. But let’s examine exactly who, at least what groups, were responsible for this failure and ask the question if history can or will repeat.
Windows is a shell, a large one admittedly, but a shell into which third-party companies plug their code. I’d like to take each of these parties and reflect on what they did right and wrong.
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Okay so clearly Microsoft had to shoulder a lot of the blame for Vista. They were simply too ambitious with it and when they had to, effectively, dump all the code and start again from scratch half way through the development process everyone knew there was trouble ahead.
Vista was late, nearly two years late and that equates to a big financial penalty. Companies and major corporations pay millions every year to Microsoft in volume licencing and subscription fees. For this they expect a regular development cycle, about every three years. Simply put they didn’t get it. Thus the pressure was on Microsoft to deliver and clearly they panicked and rushed Vista out the door without proper testing.
Hang on a minute! I hear you cry, the beta programme for Windows Vista lasted a year and a half and took in about half a million testers!! You compare that to the beta for Windows 7 that only took six months and had only 5,000 testers.
Windows Vista was an experiment, a version 1.0 product. It was essentially a brand new operating system as Microsoft were trying out new systems. But there was an awful lot of legacy code built into that and the resulting mish-mash made Vista the dog that it was.
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Old 09-28-2009   #2 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Hmm... Other operating systems out there did much of what is in Vista years ago, and better.

I know some will disagree with me, but Microsoft has to shoulder the responsibilty of turning out systems that could be much better. Start spending more money on proper development, and not so much on adverts. Why reduce monies spent on adverts ? Microsoft spends more money on adverts than most computer companies spend on their entire budget. And they spend far more on adverts than development. Snowing people into buying something is what used car sales does. It shouldn't be tolerated from computer companies.
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Old 09-28-2009   #3 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Good point JimJoe.
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Old 09-28-2009   #4 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Hmm, I am not sure whether I agree. I bought a system with Vista on day1 (Febr. 1, 07) and then 3 more. I had few problems except in the beginning. And those were mostely with OEM programs like drivers, the router, etc. But since I had no prior PC history, I bought my systems a little bigger than the "migrants". Thus the admittedly generous resource usage (RAM and disk space) did not really affect me. But I agree with the observation that there is too much legacy code in the system. They should have streamlined it a lot more, even at the expense of loosing some backlevel compatibility.
The other problem, of course, was that the people did not want to learn something new and a lot of people were badmouthing Vista without ever having tried it for one minute (see the Mojave experiment). Now I hear similar rumbles about Win7, but how long do people want to stay on XP?
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Old 09-28-2009   #5 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

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...Now I hear similar rumbles about Win7, but how long do people want to stay on XP?
Right? People forget that Windows XP wasn't a runaway success at first either, and it seems to me that the majority of people who fell in love with XP from day one were coming from Windows ME (garbage)
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Old 09-28-2009   #6 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Brian the King View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
...Now I hear similar rumbles about Win7, but how long do people want to stay on XP?
Right? People forget that Windows XP wasn't a runaway success at first either, and it seems to me that the majority of people who fell in love with XP from day one were coming from Windows ME (garbage)
I agree with you Brian, XP was not a runaway success; but I think people wanting to dump ME2000 contributed to it's early acceptance. I started out on With Windows 3.1 and thought I was in heaven after coming from DOS6. Then went to Windows 95 and was very happy with this OS (truth be known I have an unopened Windows 95 and Manual still in my collection of stuff. Then I stayed away from Win98 until the release of Win98SE and went for that. It was rock solid. Never fell for Windows ME2000, everyone said junk so I didn't buy. Then along came Windows XP Media Edition 2005 (which was actually Win XP Pro) and stuck with that until just last year November 2008. Then I wanted to build my own machine with all the bells and whistles and everyone said Vista Home Premium x64....I did, and have never looked back. I love my Vista Home Premium SP2 x64, never a problem and in fact I just ordered another copy for a second tody computer. I just don't see how the mothership can top this. I'm going to stay away from Win 7 until way after the first service pack. Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Old 09-28-2009   #7 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Hmm, I am not sure whether I agree. I bought a system with Vista on day1 (Febr. 1, 07) and then 3 more. I had few problems except in the beginning. And those were mostely with OEM programs like drivers, the router, etc. But since I had no prior PC history, I bought my systems a little bigger than the "migrants". Thus the admittedly generous resource usage (RAM and disk space) did not really affect me. But I agree with the observation that there is too much legacy code in the system. They should have streamlined it a lot more, even at the expense of loosing some backlevel compatibility.
The other problem, of course, was that the people did not want to learn something new and a lot of people were badmouthing Vista without ever having tried it for one minute (see the Mojave experiment). Now I hear similar rumbles about Win7, but how long do people want to stay on XP?
Resistance to change - the human condition.
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Old 09-28-2009   #8 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

Agreed JMH good point Jim
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Old 09-28-2009   #9 (permalink)


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Agreed JMH good point Jim

I'm a keen observer of said human condition.
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Old 09-29-2009   #10 (permalink)


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Re: If Windows 7 fails who will be responsible for it?

The thing about operating systems is each has advantages and disadvantages. Compromises are always made.

You just have to decide if the compromises and disadvantages don't out weight what you want to do with it.
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