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| | Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Hello Everyone, I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition for the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you might have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as the sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive which is formatted to NTFS. Can anyone tell me; 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto the external? Any information on this would be great !! -- P. Stern |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Windows Vista was designed to perform best when installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not perform as well since added seek time will be required. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User --------------------------------------------------------------- "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx Hello Everyone, I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition for the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you might have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as the sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive which is formatted to NTFS. Can anyone tell me; 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto the external? Any information on this would be great !! -- P. Stern |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Thank you for your response. I was considering this scenario for recovery purposes. Are you saying that there is no need to place O/S boot files on a seperate partition? How would the recovery process work given the info in the knowledge base? ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). I am still wondering about the page file - can you tell me what has changed from XP to Vista regarding the seek time ? Or is there Microsoft information that you can direct me to ? -- P. Stern "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > perform as well since added seek time will be required. > > -- > Carey Frisch > Microsoft MVP > Windows Shell/User > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > Hello Everyone, > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition for > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you might > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as the > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive > which is formatted to NTFS. > > Can anyone tell me; > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto > the external? > > Any information on this would be great !! > -- > P. Stern |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate It makes no sense to put the page file on a different partition on the same physical drive, a different hard drive altogether is a different story. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1DAFA9AC-7CA0-4800-BFF5-0F3D6C112807@xxxxxx Quote: > Thank you for your response. > I was considering this scenario for recovery purposes. > Are you saying that there is no need to place O/S boot files on a seperate > partition? How would the recovery process work given the info in the > knowledge base? ( > ttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > I am still wondering about the page file - can you tell me what has > changed > from XP to Vista regarding the seek time ? Or is there Microsoft > information > that you can direct me to ? > -- > P. Stern > > > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: > Quote: >> Windows Vista was designed to perform best when >> installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice >> your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not >> perform as well since added seek time will be required. >> >> -- >> Carey Frisch >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Shell/User >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx >> Hello Everyone, >> I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista >> Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the >> drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition >> for >> the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you >> might >> have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as >> the >> sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). >> All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive >> which is formatted to NTFS. >> >> Can anyone tell me; >> 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? >> 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? >> 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? >> 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. >> onto >> the external? >> >> Any information on this would be great !! >> -- >> P. Stern |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate If you install Vista on partition 1, and have all of your personal data moved to partition 2, Vista **is** on one partition. I have never heard of a Vista install spanning partitions. The saved data is accessed infrequently in most home users computers and will not impact the operating system much at all. This also make recovery an easier job if you have to roll back to a system image you have created of your system partition. Your data will not be touched in any way. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EE9FE30E-961B-4EB3-90AC-5467E5B87511@xxxxxx Quote: > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > perform as well since added seek time will be required. > > -- > Carey Frisch > Microsoft MVP > Windows Shell/User > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > Hello Everyone, > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition > for > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you > might > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as > the > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive > which is formatted to NTFS. > > Can anyone tell me; > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto > the external? > > Any information on this would be great !! > -- > P. Stern |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Dave, Thank you for your input. I guess I was reading articles that explain the "pros" for moving it such as http://www.windvis.com/using-a-parti...your-swap-file . There are several articles written that basically support this, so I thought it was a good idea. Why do suggest a separate drive altogether versus a separate partition ? I am very interested in learning more about this, so if you have any information that can shed some light - please share !! -- P. Stern "David B." wrote: Quote: > It makes no sense to put the page file on a different partition on the same > physical drive, a different hard drive altogether is a different story. > > -- > > ---- > Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > _________________________________________________________________________________ > > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:1DAFA9AC-7CA0-4800-BFF5-0F3D6C112807@xxxxxx Quote: > > Thank you for your response. > > I was considering this scenario for recovery purposes. > > Are you saying that there is no need to place O/S boot files on a seperate > > partition? How would the recovery process work given the info in the > > knowledge base? ( > > ttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > > I am still wondering about the page file - can you tell me what has > > changed > > from XP to Vista regarding the seek time ? Or is there Microsoft > > information > > that you can direct me to ? > > -- > > P. Stern > > > > > > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: > > Quote: > >> Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > >> installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > >> your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > >> perform as well since added seek time will be required. > >> > >> -- > >> Carey Frisch > >> Microsoft MVP > >> Windows Shell/User > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > >> Hello Everyone, > >> I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > >> Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > >> drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition > >> for > >> the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you > >> might > >> have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as > >> the > >> sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > >> All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive > >> which is formatted to NTFS. > >> > >> Can anyone tell me; > >> 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > >> 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? > >> 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > >> 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. > >> onto > >> the external? > >> > >> Any information on this would be great !! > >> -- > >> P. Stern > |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Richard, Thank you for your response. I'm not sure I understand the info though. If O/S is on 1 partition and Personal Docs, photos, etc. are on 2nd partition - how is this the same partition? I guess that I have read a lot about recovering the O/S if it resides on a separate partition. I'm not sure that I fully understand why Vista has a "partition on the fly" option now. What would you use the partitioning for - other than a dual boot scenario ? Microsoft Technet also speaks about organizing files by partitioning http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...3.mspx?pf=true - I really would like to learn as much as I can about it, so if you can pass along any info or resources that I can read, please share them here. -- P. Stern "Richard Urban" wrote: Quote: > If you install Vista on partition 1, and have all of your personal data > moved to partition 2, Vista **is** on one partition. I have never heard of a > Vista install spanning partitions. The saved data is accessed infrequently > in most home users computers and will not impact the operating system much > at all. > > This also make recovery an easier job if you have to roll back to a system > image you have created of your system partition. Your data will not be > touched in any way. > > -- > > Regards, > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > > > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EE9FE30E-961B-4EB3-90AC-5467E5B87511@xxxxxx Quote: > > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > > perform as well since added seek time will be required. > > > > -- > > Carey Frisch > > Microsoft MVP > > Windows Shell/User > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > > Hello Everyone, > > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition > > for > > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you > > might > > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as > > the > > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive > > which is formatted to NTFS. > > > > Can anyone tell me; > > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? > > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto > > the external? > > > > Any information on this would be great !! > > -- > > P. Stern > |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Hi Everyone, Here is the technet article that describes partitioning the hard drive to provide a recovery solution - I was wondering if anyone has tried this ? http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true -- P. Stern "stern88" wrote: Quote: > Richard, > Thank you for your response. I'm not sure I understand the info though. If > O/S is on 1 partition and Personal Docs, photos, etc. are on 2nd partition - > how is this the same partition? I guess that I have read a lot about > recovering the O/S if it resides on a separate partition. I'm not sure that I > fully understand why Vista has a "partition on the fly" option now. What > would you use the partitioning for - other than a dual boot scenario ? > Microsoft Technet also speaks about organizing files by partitioning > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...3.mspx?pf=true > - I really would like to learn as much as I can about it, so if you can pass > along any info or resources that I can read, please share them here. > -- > P. Stern > > > "Richard Urban" wrote: > Quote: > > If you install Vista on partition 1, and have all of your personal data > > moved to partition 2, Vista **is** on one partition. I have never heard of a > > Vista install spanning partitions. The saved data is accessed infrequently > > in most home users computers and will not impact the operating system much > > at all. > > > > This also make recovery an easier job if you have to roll back to a system > > image you have created of your system partition. Your data will not be > > touched in any way. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Richard Urban > > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > > > > > > > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:EE9FE30E-961B-4EB3-90AC-5467E5B87511@xxxxxx Quote: > > > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > > > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > > > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > > > perform as well since added seek time will be required. > > > > > > -- > > > Carey Frisch > > > Microsoft MVP > > > Windows Shell/User > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > > news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > > > Hello Everyone, > > > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > > > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > > > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 partition > > > for > > > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you > > > might > > > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition as > > > the > > > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > > > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external drive > > > which is formatted to NTFS. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me; > > > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > > > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this advisable? > > > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > > > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. onto > > > the external? > > > > > > Any information on this would be great !! > > > -- > > > P. Stern > > |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate What I said is that you partition the drive and move all of your personal files to "another" partition, the Vista operating system is still on the original (one) partition. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3495AB16-7EE4-4CB5-AEB0-F4C4A4B3D29D@xxxxxx Quote: > Richard, > Thank you for your response. I'm not sure I understand the info though. If > O/S is on 1 partition and Personal Docs, photos, etc. are on 2nd > partition - > how is this the same partition? I guess that I have read a lot about > recovering the O/S if it resides on a separate partition. I'm not sure > that I > fully understand why Vista has a "partition on the fly" option now. What > would you use the partitioning for - other than a dual boot scenario ? > Microsoft Technet also speaks about organizing files by partitioning > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...3.mspx?pf=true > - I really would like to learn as much as I can about it, so if you can > pass > along any info or resources that I can read, please share them here. > -- > P. Stern > > > "Richard Urban" wrote: > Quote: >> If you install Vista on partition 1, and have all of your personal data >> moved to partition 2, Vista **is** on one partition. I have never heard >> of a >> Vista install spanning partitions. The saved data is accessed >> infrequently >> in most home users computers and will not impact the operating system >> much >> at all. >> >> This also make recovery an easier job if you have to roll back to a >> system >> image you have created of your system partition. Your data will not be >> touched in any way. >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Richard Urban >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address) >> >> >> >> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:EE9FE30E-961B-4EB3-90AC-5467E5B87511@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when >> > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice >> > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not >> > perform as well since added seek time will be required. >> > >> > -- >> > Carey Frisch >> > Microsoft MVP >> > Windows Shell/User >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx >> > Hello Everyone, >> > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista >> > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the >> > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 >> > partition >> > for >> > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you >> > might >> > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition >> > as >> > the >> > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). >> > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external >> > drive >> > which is formatted to NTFS. >> > >> > Can anyone tell me; >> > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? >> > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this >> > advisable? >> > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? >> > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. >> > onto >> > the external? >> > >> > Any information on this would be great !! >> > -- >> > P. Stern >> |
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| | Re: Partition Drive Size for Vista Ultimate Hi again Richard, Do you mean it is still on the same volume ? -- P. Stern "Richard Urban" wrote: Quote: > What I said is that you partition the drive and move all of your personal > files to "another" partition, the Vista operating system is still on the > original (one) partition. > > -- > > Regards, > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > > > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:3495AB16-7EE4-4CB5-AEB0-F4C4A4B3D29D@xxxxxx Quote: > > Richard, > > Thank you for your response. I'm not sure I understand the info though. If > > O/S is on 1 partition and Personal Docs, photos, etc. are on 2nd > > partition - > > how is this the same partition? I guess that I have read a lot about > > recovering the O/S if it resides on a separate partition. I'm not sure > > that I > > fully understand why Vista has a "partition on the fly" option now. What > > would you use the partitioning for - other than a dual boot scenario ? > > Microsoft Technet also speaks about organizing files by partitioning > > http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...3.mspx?pf=true > > - I really would like to learn as much as I can about it, so if you can > > pass > > along any info or resources that I can read, please share them here. > > -- > > P. Stern > > > > > > "Richard Urban" wrote: > > Quote: > >> If you install Vista on partition 1, and have all of your personal data > >> moved to partition 2, Vista **is** on one partition. I have never heard > >> of a > >> Vista install spanning partitions. The saved data is accessed > >> infrequently > >> in most home users computers and will not impact the operating system > >> much > >> at all. > >> > >> This also make recovery an easier job if you have to roll back to a > >> system > >> image you have created of your system partition. Your data will not be > >> touched in any way. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Richard Urban > >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > >> (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > >> > >> > >> > >> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:EE9FE30E-961B-4EB3-90AC-5467E5B87511@xxxxxx > >> > Windows Vista was designed to perform best when > >> > installed on a single partition. If you slice-and dice > >> > your hard drive into more partitions, Vista will not > >> > perform as well since added seek time will be required. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carey Frisch > >> > Microsoft MVP > >> > Windows Shell/User > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > "stern88" <stern88@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> > news:368A06BD-93F7-431D-AFC1-A41E09278E30@xxxxxx > >> > Hello Everyone, > >> > I have a Toshiba Tablet M200 with a 60GB hard drive. I purchased Vista > >> > Ultimate and installed it over XP Tablet. I would like to partition the > >> > drive. I considered making 1 partition for the system files, 1 > >> > partition > >> > for > >> > the page file and 1 partition for the Recovery Environment (Since you > >> > might > >> > have recovery problems if the WinRE is installed on the same partition > >> > as > >> > the > >> > sytem files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938316/en-us ). > >> > All of my Docs, photos, movies, I would like to put on an external > >> > drive > >> > which is formatted to NTFS. > >> > > >> > Can anyone tell me; > >> > 1. What is the optimum partition size for the O/S? > >> > 2. Can I create a partition specifically for "updates" Is this > >> > advisable? > >> > 3. Can I put both the WinRE and the pagefile on the same partition? > >> > 4. What is the best way to tell Vista to place the docs, photos, etc. > >> > onto > >> > the external? > >> > > >> > Any information on this would be great !! > >> > -- > >> > P. Stern > >> > >> > |
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