Vista - disk defragmenter

i have no idea if they are or not. sorry
"KevinO" <nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper)
> on this version like they were on the XP version?
>
> I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and
> fragmentation.
>
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:9FBA14FC-7371-4639-A404-2B10D89A95C3@microsoft.com...
>> whats the deal with the disk defragmenter?
>> i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff.
>> what the heck did microsoft do to it?
>> the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on
>> unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that
>> particular disk.
>> i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista.
>> know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
>>
>

I hope someone at MS will read this. The disk defragmenter in Vista is
useless. You can't tell whether it is actually doing anything (no active
graphs) and it reports back that highly fragemented disks do not need to be
defragged. After two weeks of using the beta, this is the most serious
problem I have found. Fortunately, I am using a dual boot with XP and have
both System Mechanic and Norton System Works on the XP system.

"Steven Wabik" wrote:

> i have no idea if they are or not. sorry
> "KevinO" <nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4EEA2119-0BA2-465B-A604-290503A41CB3@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper)
> > on this version like they were on the XP version?
> >
> > I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and
> > fragmentation.
> >
> >
> > "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:9FBA14FC-7371-4639-A404-2B10D89A95C3@microsoft.com...
> >> whats the deal with the disk defragmenter?
> >> i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff.
> >> what the heck did microsoft do to it?
> >> the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on
> >> unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that
> >> particular disk.
> >> i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista.
> >> know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
> >>
> >
>

i have a dual boot of xp and vista too.
the xp defragmenter is ok but the vista one needs lots of work.
you can report it as an issue if you want.
there is even a page where you can send them your comments and seggestions.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx

for a disk defragmenter in vista use the one that you can download from this
site.
its called disk keeper. it works good.
http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/d...tadownload.asp
"Brian" <Brian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2A7C41DA-ED06-4CB6-8F76-711D3476753A@microsoft.com...
>I hope someone at MS will read this. The disk defragmenter in Vista is
> useless. You can't tell whether it is actually doing anything (no active
> graphs) and it reports back that highly fragemented disks do not need to
> be
> defragged. After two weeks of using the beta, this is the most serious
> problem I have found. Fortunately, I am using a dual boot with XP and have
> both System Mechanic and Norton System Works on the XP system.
>
> "Steven Wabik" wrote:
>
>> i have no idea if they are or not. sorry
>> "KevinO" <nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4EEA2119-0BA2-465B-A604-290503A41CB3@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software (
>> > Diskkeeper)
>> > on this version like they were on the XP version?
>> >
>> > I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status
>> > and
>> > fragmentation.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:9FBA14FC-7371-4639-A404-2B10D89A95C3@microsoft.com...
>> >> whats the deal with the disk defragmenter?
>> >> i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff.
>> >> what the heck did microsoft do to it?
>> >> the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working
>> >> on
>> >> unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that
>> >> particular disk.
>> >> i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista.
>> >> know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
>> >>
>> >
>>

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:26:54 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:

>http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/d...tadownload.asp

It doesnt work on RC1 (as they clearly say its only for older builds).

I tried installing it anyway, but installation stops because I "dont
have rights" to install the diskeeper service...

Any workaround for this or we have to wait for a newer build from
Diskeeper Corp?

I really really hate vista defrag.

T*

No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer version for
RC1+).

O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.

--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
"Telstar" <telstar@telstar.it> wrote in message
news:5gd5g2h169f2076o79st7ue7msm5djmi9m@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:26:54 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
> <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
>
>>http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/d...tadownload.asp
>
> It doesnt work on RC1 (as they clearly say its only for older builds).
>
> I tried installing it anyway, but installation stops because I "dont
> have rights" to install the diskeeper service...
>
> Any workaround for this or we have to wait for a newer build from
> Diskeeper Corp?
>
> I really really hate vista defrag.
>
> T*

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:35:25 +0200, "Max" <max@home.com> wrote:

>No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer version for
>RC1+).
>
>O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.

Which build?
I tried the last one and got the dreaded message "this software does
not support this version of windows"...

bah.

Version 8, not the 8.5 available on the O&O website.
Interesting that the older version works, and the newer one does not.
--
Maxwell Bluemeanie

Telstar wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:35:25 +0200, "Max" <max@home.com> wrote:
>
>> No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer
>> version for RC1+).
>>
>> O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.
>
> Which build?
> I tried the last one and got the dreaded message "this software does
> not support this version of windows"...
>
> bah.

I tried both 8 and 8.5 with no luck on Vista 32. My error message was *the
application does not support this processor*. Interestingly, I'm using O&O
on the XPx64 side with great results.

"Max" <mbanyah@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eqZ8beN1GHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Version 8, not the 8.5 available on the O&O website.
> Interesting that the older version works, and the newer one does not.
> --
> Maxwell Bluemeanie
>
> Telstar wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:35:25 +0200, "Max" <max@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer
>>> version for RC1+).
>>>
>>> O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.
>>
>> Which build?
>> I tried the last one and got the dreaded message "this software does
>> not support this version of windows"...
>>
>> bah.
>
>

Hi,
Even though there's no cute gui;
Admin command prompt defrag works just fine now- it's free;and does just as
good;or better than O&O.
Trust me on this;tried out O&O; and Diskkeeper;both defrag with less
success then yur basic command prompt.
Yea; there's not cute pics;or colors;but checking using a command prompt
defrag analyze showed very acceptable results;as did analysis after
defrag;looking at the drive with O&O;after the command line defrag.

Jeff


"Mark W Scheidell" <notgiven@toprotect.com> wrote in message
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>I tried both 8 and 8.5 with no luck on Vista 32. My error message was *the
>application does not support this processor*. Interestingly, I'm using O&O
>on the XPx64 side with great results.
>
> "Max" <mbanyah@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eqZ8beN1GHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Version 8, not the 8.5 available on the O&O website.
>> Interesting that the older version works, and the newer one does not.
>> --
>> Maxwell Bluemeanie
>>
>> Telstar wrote:
>>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:35:25 +0200, "Max" <max@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer
>>>> version for RC1+).
>>>>
>>>> O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.
>>>
>>> Which build?
>>> I tried the last one and got the dreaded message "this software does
>>> not support this version of windows"...
>>>
>>> bah.
>>
>>
>

Ok,
Just an FYI,
Command prompt defrag works fine now-its free and does just as good or
better than O&O.
Yea; no cute GUI; but works great now.
Jeff
P.S. this thread is posted in multiple rooms, responded to this in the other
room.

"Mark W Scheidell" <notgiven@toprotect.com> wrote in message
news:7C889DF5-306F-4B3B-AD72-B2D8B726C352@microsoft.com...
>I tried both 8 and 8.5 with no luck on Vista 32. My error message was *the
>application does not support this processor*. Interestingly, I'm using O&O
>on the XPx64 side with great results.
>
> "Max" <mbanyah@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eqZ8beN1GHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Version 8, not the 8.5 available on the O&O website.
>> Interesting that the older version works, and the newer one does not.
>> --
>> Maxwell Bluemeanie
>>
>> Telstar wrote:
>>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:35:25 +0200, "Max" <max@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No known workaround for Diskeeper (until they release a newer
>>>> version for RC1+).
>>>>
>>>> O&O Defrag (Pro Version 8) works in RC1.
>>>
>>> Which build?
>>> I tried the last one and got the dreaded message "this software does
>>> not support this version of windows"...
>>>
>>> bah.
>>
>>
>