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Old 11-17-2007   #1 (permalink)
Mikro


 
 

Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool fails
to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command prompt
methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
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Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict

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Old 11-17-2007   #2 (permalink)
Cal Bear '66


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

Have you tried defrag in Safe Mode with Command Prompt?


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"Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool fails
> to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command prompt
> methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
> --
> Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict

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Old 11-17-2007   #3 (permalink)
Mikro


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

Interesting Idea I might have to try that thanks
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Posted by Mikro Running Windows Vista Ulimate 1 year and counting


"Cal Bear '66" wrote:
Quote:

> Have you tried defrag in Safe Mode with Command Prompt?
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
> "Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> newsAB342BD-7A6E-49B1-82EA-787F897D5470@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool fails
> > to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command prompt
> > methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
> > --
> > Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict
>
>
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Old 11-17-2007   #4 (permalink)
Cal Bear '66


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

You're welcome.

Hope it works.

Post back and let us know how it goes.


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"Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Interesting Idea I might have to try that thanks
> --
> Posted by Mikro Running Windows Vista Ulimate 1 year and counting
>
>
> "Cal Bear '66" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Have you tried defrag in Safe Mode with Command Prompt?
>>
>>
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>> "Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> newsAB342BD-7A6E-49B1-82EA-787F897D5470@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool
>> > fails
>> > to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command
>> > prompt
>> > methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
>> > --
>> > Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict
>>
>>

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Old 11-17-2007   #5 (permalink)
John Hanley


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

How do you determine that you are only getting 4% defragged? My Vista
defrag does not supply such information, so I would like to know how you got
the figure of 4%. Thanks

"Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool
> fails
> to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command
> prompt
> methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
> --
> Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-17-2007   #6 (permalink)
Cal Bear '66


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

By using the defrag command with the verbose switch at the command prompt.


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"John Hanley" <jphanley@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> How do you determine that you are only getting 4% defragged? My Vista defrag
> does not supply such information, so I would like to know how you got the
> figure of 4%. Thanks
>
> "Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> newsAB342BD-7A6E-49B1-82EA-787F897D5470@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool fails
>> to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command prompt
>> methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
>> --
>> Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-18-2007   #7 (permalink)
John Hanley


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

Thank you very much, I was unaware of this option. And then I learned some
more about it at this URL:

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/vis...entation.shtml

Doing a defrag analysis from the command prompt [c: -a -v] tells me that I
have 3% file fragmentation, and that 'You do not need to defragment this
volume.".

I let Vista automatically defragment once per week, so it is apparently
doing a good job. I wonder what % file fragmentation would be considered
'bad' so as to trigger a recommendation to defrag...anyone know?


"Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> By using the defrag command with the verbose switch at the command prompt.
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
> "John Hanley" <jphanley@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eFQcz$WKIHA.4752@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> How do you determine that you are only getting 4% defragged? My Vista
>> defrag does not supply such information, so I would like to know how you
>> got the figure of 4%. Thanks
>>
>> "Mikro" <Mikro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> newsAB342BD-7A6E-49B1-82EA-787F897D5470@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I've tried everything short of a windows re-install but the defrag tool
>>> fails
>>> to defrag entire Hard drives C:\ & E:\ I've tried running the command
>>> prompt
>>> methoid and still only 4% of the files get defragged
>>> --
>>> Mikro, Beta Testing Fool & New Stuff Addict
>>
>
>
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Old 11-19-2007   #8 (permalink)


XP Pro/SP3, Vista HP
 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by John Hanley View Post
I wonder what % file fragmentation would be considered
'bad' so as to trigger a recommendation to defrag...anyone know?
There is no hard rule regarding this, but it's good to keep it as low as possible, without expending too much in the way of system resources and time to achieve this.

If the files you use frequently are heavily fragmented, such as the windows system files, paging file etc, then you will see slower bootup times, slower disk performance and other common effects of fragmentation.

If the files you never/rarely use are fragmented, then obviously you wont notice much of a performance loss under normal usage conditions.

But do note that fragmented files (used or unused) can cause fragmentation of free space and future files, leading to a self-propagating fragmentation problem, hence the benefit in keeping fragmentation low at any given time.
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Old 11-20-2007   #9 (permalink)
mikeltrun


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly

On Nov 19, 6:17 pm, Benjamin <Benjamin.30a...@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote:
Quote:

> John Hanley;518204 Wrote:
>
>
>
Quote:

> > I wonder what %filefragmentationwould be considered
> > 'bad' so as to trigger a recommendation to defrag...anyone know?
>
> There is no hard rule regarding this, but it's good to keep it as low
> as possible, without expending too much in the way of system resources
> and time to achieve this.
>
> If the files you use frequently are heavily fragmented, such as the
> windows system files, pagingfileetc, then you will see slower bootup
> times, slower disk performance and other common effects offragmentation.
>
> If the files you never/rarely use are fragmented, then obviously you
> wont notice much of a performance loss under normal usage conditions.
>
> But do note that fragmented files (used or unused) can causefragmentationof free space and future files, leading to a
> self-propagatingfragmentationproblem, hence the benefit in keepingfragmentationlow at any given time.
>
> --
> Benjamin
Totally agree with benjamin, in case of fragmentation its best to
treat it at its infancy rather than when there is no free space to do
a thorough defrag. Its best to avoid any threats to drive health.
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Old 11-20-2007   #10 (permalink)
ato_zee


 
 

Re: Defrag Can't Complete Correctly


On 20-Nov-2007, mikeltrun@xxxxxx wrote:
Quote:

> Totally agree with benjamin, in case of fragmentation its best to
> treat it at its infancy rather than when there is no free space to do
> a thorough defrag. Its best to avoid any threats to drive health.
Some defragmentation programs can be set to run at boot.
PerfectDisk 8.0 has a defrag at boot tick box, works under
Vista 64bit, and defrags at boot if you tick the box.
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