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Old 02-24-2008   #1 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see no change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!

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Old 02-24-2008   #2 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

Hi,

Where are you reading it in Vista? If from the Performance Information tool,
you may need to refresh it. Run msinfo32 from the start/search line and
check the Total Physical Memory line under System Summary. Unless you are
running x64, it will report about 3.2GB available (this is a limitation of
32-bit addressing).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista
> reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
> why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see no
> change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
>
>
> --
> tony2tones
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2008   #3 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

MSINFO32 reports 2048MB of total physical memory. SiSoftware Sandra reports under hardware that there are 4 1GB memory sticks installed. But on under software reports only 2 GB of total physical memory. The machine knows of the physical existence of the add'l memory but Vista doesn't. Appreciate the help...thanks!
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Old 02-24-2008   #4 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

Does the BIOS show all 4GB? If the memory is of different speeds is the
BIOS set run all of it at the lower speed?
"tony2tones" <tony2tones.35aqcz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> MSINFO32 reports 2048MB of total physical memory. SiSoftware Sandra
> reports under hardware that there are 4 1GB memory sticks installed.
> But on under software reports only 2 GB of total physical memory. The
> machine knows of the physical existence of the add'l memory but Vista
> doesn't. Appreciate the help...thanks!
>
>
> --
> tony2tones
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ian D


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see


"tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista
> reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
> why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see no
> change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
>
>
> --
> tony2tones
Make sure the memory remap or similar feature is not enabled in
your BIOS. This is for use with 64 bit OSs only, and the results
with a 32 bit OS are unpredictable. Showning only 2 GB of 4 GB
installed was the result I got with WinXP when the remap was
enabled for 64 bit Vista.


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Old 02-24-2008   #6 (permalink)
ICQM Houston


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

i had similar issue before -
vista 32-bit can only recognize 3 GB even if you installed higher than 3 BG
RAM size total. vista 64-bit can have it all sizes of RAM - i had so far
tested
8GB on a desktop workstation tunning vista 64 and no problem

"Ian D" wrote:
Quote:

>
> "tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

> >
> > I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista
> > reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
> > why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see no
> > change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
> >
> >
> > --
> > tony2tones
>
> Make sure the memory remap or similar feature is not enabled in
> your BIOS. This is for use with 64 bit OSs only, and the results
> with a 32 bit OS are unpredictable. Showning only 2 GB of 4 GB
> installed was the result I got with WinXP when the remap was
> enabled for 64 bit Vista.
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2008   #7 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

Hi,

Is the new memory of the same make and speed? If not, try swapping them
around (switch slots with the old memory).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"tony2tones" <tony2tones.35aqcz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:tony2tones.35aqcz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> MSINFO32 reports 2048MB of total physical memory. SiSoftware Sandra
> reports under hardware that there are 4 1GB memory sticks installed.
> But on under software reports only 2 GB of total physical memory. The
> machine knows of the physical existence of the add'l memory but Vista
> doesn't. Appreciate the help...thanks!
>
>
> --
> tony2tones
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2008   #8 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:56:01 -0800, ICQM Houston
<ICQMHouston@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> vista 32-bit can only recognize 3 GB even if you installed higher than 3 BG
> RAM size total.

No, that's not exactly correct.

All 32-bit versions of Windows (not just XP) have a 4GB address space.
That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which you can not go.

You can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you have a
4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM. That's
because some of that space is used by hardware and not available to
the operating system and applications. The amount you can use varies,
depending on what hardware you have installed, but is usually around
3.1GB.

Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
address space to map it too.


Quote:

> vista 64-bit can have it all sizes of RAM -

And that's not even close to correct. The amount varies with the
version of 64-bit Vista. It's 8GB with Home Basic, 16GB in Home
Premium, and 128GB in the other versions.

Quote:

> i had so far
> tested
> 8GB on a desktop workstation tunning vista 64 and no problem
>
> "Ian D" wrote:
>
Quote:

> >
> > "tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> > news:tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

> > >
> > > I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista
> > > reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
> > > why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see no
> > > change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > tony2tones
> >
> > Make sure the memory remap or similar feature is not enabled in
> > your BIOS. This is for use with 64 bit OSs only, and the results
> > with a 32 bit OS are unpredictable. Showning only 2 GB of 4 GB
> > installed was the result I got with WinXP when the remap was
> > enabled for 64 bit Vista.
> >
> >
> >
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Old 02-24-2008   #9 (permalink)
C.B.


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see



"ICQM Houston" <ICQMHouston@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> i had similar issue before -
> vista 32-bit can only recognize 3 GB even if you installed higher than 3
> BG
> RAM size total. vista 64-bit can have it all sizes of RAM - i had so far
> tested
> 8GB on a desktop workstation tunning vista 64 and no problem
>
> "Ian D" wrote:
>
Quote:

>>
>> "tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>> >
>> > I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but Vista
>> > reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
>> > why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see
>> > no
>> > change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > tony2tones
>>
>> Make sure the memory remap or similar feature is not enabled in
>> your BIOS. This is for use with 64 bit OSs only, and the results
>> with a 32 bit OS are unpredictable. Showning only 2 GB of 4 GB
>> installed was the result I got with WinXP when the remap was
>> enabled for 64 bit Vista.
>>
>>
>>
ICQMHouston,

Once you install Vista SP1 you will be able to see all 4GB of RAM.
However, as before, you will not have access to all of it.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and less fortunate among us.

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Old 02-25-2008   #10 (permalink)
Scrivener


 
 

Re: Upgraded from 2GB to 4GB but Vista doesn't see

Hi, Ken:

I've enjoyed reading your posts.

I have a laptop with three gigs of SDRAM housed in two slots: Slot 1, 2
gigs; Slot 2, 1 gig. I've ordered a two-gig strip to put in the Slot 2,
which now has the 1gig installed. If I'm understanding you correctly,
you're indicating that it won't "help" the system and applications much
beyond my 3 gigs? If that's the case, I wasted my money purchasing the 2
gig for the second slot? (Live & Learn) If so, no big deal, except it
proves once again my ignorance on the subject, and that I should have done
more research.

As an aside, when I check this machine's performance - I'm running Vista
Ultimate - it shows approximately 1.1 gig used, 1.9 gig not used. I was
hoping to make that 2.1 unused.

Thanks, again, for any thoughts on this.

Ernie



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ggi3s39sjthnmv3i4p8i3nmlnli79nvslh@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:56:01 -0800, ICQM Houston
> <ICQMHouston@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> vista 32-bit can only recognize 3 GB even if you installed higher than 3
>> BG
>> RAM size total.
>
>
> No, that's not exactly correct.
>
> All 32-bit versions of Windows (not just XP) have a 4GB address space.
> That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which you can not go.
>
> You can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you have a
> 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM. That's
> because some of that space is used by hardware and not available to
> the operating system and applications. The amount you can use varies,
> depending on what hardware you have installed, but is usually around
> 3.1GB.
>
> Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
> RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
> address space to map it too.
>
>
>
Quote:

>> vista 64-bit can have it all sizes of RAM -
>
>
> And that's not even close to correct. The amount varies with the
> version of 64-bit Vista. It's 8GB with Home Basic, 16GB in Home
> Premium, and 128GB in the other versions.
>
>
Quote:

>> i had so far
>> tested
>> 8GB on a desktop workstation tunning vista 64 and no problem
>>
>> "Ian D" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >
>> > "tony2tones" <tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> > news:tony2tones.359wi0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
>> > >
>> > > I've upgraded my ram from 2GB to 4GB...the bios reports 4096 but
>> > > Vista
>> > > reports 2048...the exact same value before the upgrade. I'm aware of
>> > > why Vista doesn't report all of the add'l memory but in my case I see
>> > > no
>> > > change at all...does any one have any ideas? Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > tony2tones
>> >
>> > Make sure the memory remap or similar feature is not enabled in
>> > your BIOS. This is for use with 64 bit OSs only, and the results
>> > with a 32 bit OS are unpredictable. Showning only 2 GB of 4 GB
>> > installed was the result I got with WinXP when the remap was
>> > enabled for 64 bit Vista.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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