Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) in my
mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores 5.4).
The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed them and
I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core 2 Duo
Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for my
computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components. Thanks
for any help

Have a look at what CPU-Z is reporting - see how both sets of RAM are
actually being utilized.

In my experience, increasing my 4GB PC6400 RAM to 6GB PC6400 RAM cause a
drop of 0.2 (5.8 -> 5.6) in the WE Index. I think this was because I'd
dropped from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18. Tightening the timings a little allowed
me to pull back to 5.7, but I haven't investigated further.

Nevertheless, it seems that beyond a certain amount, quantity is not an
issue, but timings are.

Thanks for the reply. My timings are pretty low though, and I dont see why
cheaper, slower ram scores better. 6400 ram should easily be 5.9 really CPU-Z
says what my timings are however its reporting my frequency to be 400mhz (I
take it it's real speed is double though?)

"CJM" wrote:

> Have a look at what CPU-Z is reporting - see how both sets of RAM are
> actually being utilized.
>
> In my experience, increasing my 4GB PC6400 RAM to 6GB PC6400 RAM cause a
> drop of 0.2 (5.8 -> 5.6) in the WE Index. I think this was because I'd
> dropped from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18. Tightening the timings a little allowed
> me to pull back to 5.7, but I haven't investigated further.
>
> Nevertheless, it seems that beyond a certain amount, quantity is not an
> issue, but timings are.
>
>

It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus
speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, it
is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS.

"admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) in

my

> mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores 5.4).
> The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed them

and

> I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core 2

Duo

> Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for

my

> computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components.

Thanks

> for any help

PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only
recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the
BIOS also.
"Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus
> speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400,

it

> is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS.
>
> "admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3CB3DEB9-E4D0-403B-964C-4BB58F431DBD@xxxxxx

> > Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9)

in

> my

> > mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores

5.4).

> > The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed

them

> and

> > I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core

2

> Duo

> > Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for

> my

> > computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components.

> Thanks

> > for any help

>
>

Thanks i'll give that a try

"Mark" wrote:

> PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only
> recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the
> BIOS also.
> "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx

> > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus
> > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400,

> it

> > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS.
> >
> > "admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:3CB3DEB9-E4D0-403B-964C-4BB58F431DBD@xxxxxx

> > > Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9)

> in

> > my

> > > mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores

> 5.4).

> > > The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed

> them

> > and

> > > I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core

> 2

> > Duo

> > > Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for

> > my

> > > computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components.

> > Thanks

> > > for any help

> >
> >

>
>
>

"Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx

> It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus
> speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400,
> it
> is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS.

When overclocking, it is often better to make sure the RAM:FSB ration is
1:1, and hence you often choose to reduce the RAM speed, but in general use,
I've never come across a situation where properly rated RAM is better run at
a lower frequency.

"Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ev6$xu6fIHA.1900@xxxxxx

> PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only
> recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the
> BIOS also.

Again, if something is sold as PC2-6400, it should be corrected rated to run
and 800MHz. Anyone selling PC2-5300 RAM as PC2-6400 RAM on the basis of
overclocking is breaking the law.

However, official DDR2 RAM speeds only go upto 800MHz, so DDR2 RAM that has
a higher rating is outside the official standard - I'm not sure in this case
what SPD information is stored in these chips... is it the highest official
rating (PC2-6400) or its actual rating (PC2-1066 for example).

First, PC-6400 is sometimes sold with the following statement on the
package:

Dual-Channel DDR2 800
DDR2 is the next generation memory technology to replace the current DDR.
With the highest speed up to 800MHz, DDR2 memory provides great performance
for 3D graphics and other memory demanding applications.

It's that "up to 800 MHz" you got to watch for. If it is stated this way, or
shown with anything other than 1.8v rating, then it can only be achieved by
overclocking the memory. It may actually be PC-5300-667.

Second, the default FSB speed of your machine may not be 400 MHz. If it's
333 MHz, then your PC-6400-800 will run at 667 MHz.
Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI is factory overclocked. It's default is 333MHz and
overclocked to 375MHz, not 400 MHz and has been reported stable up to
490MHz. But, the factory setting resets the speed on every boot back to
375MHz. This is probably the ding in WEI you are experiencing.

Third, the latency of the memory sticks should be matched. If not, WEI will
use the worst case scenario.

Last, WEI sucks as a performance indication of your machine. Get CPU-Z and
find out what your memory is really doing.
http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz_144.zip




"CJM" <cjmnews04@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ev6$xu6fIHA.1900@xxxxxx

> > PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only
> > recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in

the

> > BIOS also.

>
> Again, if something is sold as PC2-6400, it should be corrected rated to

run

> and 800MHz. Anyone selling PC2-5300 RAM as PC2-6400 RAM on the basis of
> overclocking is breaking the law.
>
> However, official DDR2 RAM speeds only go upto 800MHz, so DDR2 RAM that

has

> a higher rating is outside the official standard - I'm not sure in this

case

> what SPD information is stored in these chips... is it the highest officia

l

> rating (PC2-6400) or its actual rating (PC2-1066 for example).
>
>

Well, my timings were 4-3-3-10 1T on CPU-Z and the speed was 800mhz. My RAM
is OCZ SLI 6400, all sticks are at the same. However, I OC'd the RAM to
850Mhz and changed the timings to 4-4-4-12 2T and Vista scored it the same
which seems a bit odd. I think even DDR1 RAM can score higher than 5.4 as
well. I think it's either Vista or my motherboard, unless I have a bandwidth
issue because of the Q6600. Thanks for the suggestions,

"CJM" wrote:

>
> "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx

> > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus
> > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400,
> > it
> > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS.

>
> When overclocking, it is often better to make sure the RAM:FSB ration is
> 1:1, and hence you often choose to reduce the RAM speed, but in general use,
> I've never come across a situation where properly rated RAM is better run at
> a lower frequency.
>