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| 03-06-2008 | #1 |
| | Windows Performance Index RAM scores Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) in my mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores 5.4). The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed them and I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core 2 Duo Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for my computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components. Thanks for any help |
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| 03-06-2008 | #2 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores Have a look at what CPU-Z is reporting - see how both sets of RAM are actually being utilized. In my experience, increasing my 4GB PC6400 RAM to 6GB PC6400 RAM cause a drop of 0.2 (5.8 -> 5.6) in the WE Index. I think this was because I'd dropped from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18. Tightening the timings a little allowed me to pull back to 5.7, but I haven't investigated further. Nevertheless, it seems that beyond a certain amount, quantity is not an issue, but timings are. |
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| 03-06-2008 | #3 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores Thanks for the reply. My timings are pretty low though, and I dont see why cheaper, slower ram scores better. 6400 ram should easily be 5.9 really CPU-Z says what my timings are however its reporting my frequency to be 400mhz (I take it it's real speed is double though?) "CJM" wrote: Quote: > Have a look at what CPU-Z is reporting - see how both sets of RAM are > actually being utilized. > > In my experience, increasing my 4GB PC6400 RAM to 6GB PC6400 RAM cause a > drop of 0.2 (5.8 -> 5.6) in the WE Index. I think this was because I'd > dropped from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18. Tightening the timings a little allowed > me to pull back to 5.7, but I haven't investigated further. > > Nevertheless, it seems that beyond a certain amount, quantity is not an > issue, but timings are. > > |
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| 03-06-2008 | #4 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, it is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS. "admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3CB3DEB9-E4D0-403B-964C-4BB58F431DBD@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) in Quote: > mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores 5.4). > The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed them Quote: > I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core 2 Quote: > Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for Quote: > computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components. Quote: > for any help |
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| 03-06-2008 | #5 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the BIOS also. "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx Quote: > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, Quote: > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS. > > "admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:3CB3DEB9-E4D0-403B-964C-4BB58F431DBD@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) Quote: > my Quote: > > mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores Quote: Quote: > > The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed Quote: > and Quote: > > I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core Quote: > Duo Quote: > > Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for Quote: > > computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components. Quote: > > for any help > |
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| 03-07-2008 | #6 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores Thanks i'll give that a try "Mark" wrote: Quote: > PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only > recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the > BIOS also. > "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx Quote: > > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus > > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, Quote: > > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS. > > > > "admuh" <admuh@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:3CB3DEB9-E4D0-403B-964C-4BB58F431DBD@xxxxxx Quote: > > > Hi, I'm just wondering how the 2x 1GB 5-5-5-18 2T DDR2-4200(Scores 5.9) Quote: > > my Quote: > > > mums computer scores more than my 4x1GB 4-3-3-10 1T DDR2-6400(Scores Quote: Quote: > > > The timings have made no difference to the score when I have changed Quote: > > and Quote: > > > I can play modern games perfectly. Could it be due to my processor(Core Quote: > > Duo Quote: > > > Quad) or my motherboard(Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI)? An overall rating of 5.4 for Quote: > > > computer seems a tad low since it's all top of the range components. Quote: > > > for any help > > > > |
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| 03-07-2008 | #7 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx Quote: > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, > it > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS. 1:1, and hence you often choose to reduce the RAM speed, but in general use, I've never come across a situation where properly rated RAM is better run at a lower frequency. |
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| 03-07-2008 | #8 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ev6$xu6fIHA.1900@xxxxxx Quote: > PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only > recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in the > BIOS also. and 800MHz. Anyone selling PC2-5300 RAM as PC2-6400 RAM on the basis of overclocking is breaking the law. However, official DDR2 RAM speeds only go upto 800MHz, so DDR2 RAM that has a higher rating is outside the official standard - I'm not sure in this case what SPD information is stored in these chips... is it the highest official rating (PC2-6400) or its actual rating (PC2-1066 for example). |
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| 03-07-2008 | #9 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores First, PC-6400 is sometimes sold with the following statement on the package: Dual-Channel DDR2 800 DDR2 is the next generation memory technology to replace the current DDR. With the highest speed up to 800MHz, DDR2 memory provides great performance for 3D graphics and other memory demanding applications. It's that "up to 800 MHz" you got to watch for. If it is stated this way, or shown with anything other than 1.8v rating, then it can only be achieved by overclocking the memory. It may actually be PC-5300-667. Second, the default FSB speed of your machine may not be 400 MHz. If it's 333 MHz, then your PC-6400-800 will run at 667 MHz. Fatal1ty IN-9 SLI is factory overclocked. It's default is 333MHz and overclocked to 375MHz, not 400 MHz and has been reported stable up to 490MHz. But, the factory setting resets the speed on every boot back to 375MHz. This is probably the ding in WEI you are experiencing. Third, the latency of the memory sticks should be matched. If not, WEI will use the worst case scenario. Last, WEI sucks as a performance indication of your machine. Get CPU-Z and find out what your memory is really doing. http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz_144.zip "CJM" <cjmnews04@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EEC218B9-00C7-4524-A700-4F168D9E9FB2@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ev6$xu6fIHA.1900@xxxxxx Quote: > > PS. Sometimes you will find that the memory sold as 800 MHz is only > > recognized and runs as 667 MHz unless overclocked. This can be seen in Quote: Quote: > > BIOS also. > Again, if something is sold as PC2-6400, it should be corrected rated to Quote: > and 800MHz. Anyone selling PC2-5300 RAM as PC2-6400 RAM on the basis of > overclocking is breaking the law. > > However, official DDR2 RAM speeds only go upto 800MHz, so DDR2 RAM that Quote: > a higher rating is outside the official standard - I'm not sure in this Quote: > what SPD information is stored in these chips... is it the highest officia Quote: > rating (PC2-6400) or its actual rating (PC2-1066 for example). > > |
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| 03-07-2008 | #10 |
| | Re: Windows Performance Index RAM scores Well, my timings were 4-3-3-10 1T on CPU-Z and the speed was 800mhz. My RAM is OCZ SLI 6400, all sticks are at the same. However, I OC'd the RAM to 850Mhz and changed the timings to 4-4-4-12 2T and Vista scored it the same which seems a bit odd. I think even DDR1 RAM can score higher than 5.4 as well. I think it's either Vista or my motherboard, unless I have a bandwidth issue because of the Q6600. Thanks for the suggestions, "CJM" wrote: Quote: > > "Mark" <jmhonzell@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ui6UIH6fIHA.3400@xxxxxx Quote: > > It has been seen in some cases that the clock speed of the CPU and the bus > > speed of the memory may not be a good match. _Sometimes_ with DDR2-6400, > > it > > is better to slow it down to 667MHz in the BIOS. > When overclocking, it is often better to make sure the RAM:FSB ration is > 1:1, and hence you often choose to reduce the RAM speed, but in general use, > I've never come across a situation where properly rated RAM is better run at > a lower frequency. > |
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