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Old 04-08-2008   #1 (permalink)
Wonderman


 
 

SD / Ready Boost ?

Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ? TIA.

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Old 04-08-2008   #2 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

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"Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
> TIA.
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Old 04-08-2008   #3 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ? TIA.


I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.

If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
slight as to be almost unnoticeable.

And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
for ReadyBoost use.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Old 04-08-2008   #4 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?


Ken,
I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I boot my
Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message in about 45
seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much faster when
working with multiple applications that require the paging file to be used
since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
position.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
>> TIA.
>
>
>
> I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
>
> If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
> slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
>
> And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
> spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
> for ReadyBoost use.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-09-2008   #5 (permalink)
SG


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

You haven't looked far enough...

http://lifehacker.com/software/in-br...ing-261318.php

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/sho...spx?i=2917&p=6

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354...ssageID=620676

BTW, just type: faults in ready boost in Google for many more opinions.

For some it seems to work and others not. ReadyBoost is like which Antivirus
is the best, you ask and most answers will be a personal opinion. Mine will
follow Ken on this one because Ram is cheap, it's hard installed and I don't
have to worry about loosing it :>)

--
All the best,
SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?
https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/

"JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:0C8E328C-F141-4318-86BF-E6AD7583DCFF@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> Ken,
> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I boot
> my Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message in
> about 45 seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much
> faster when working with multiple applications that require the paging
> file to be used since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
> position.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
>>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
>>
>> If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
>> slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
>>
>> And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
>> spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
>> for ReadyBoost use.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
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Old 04-09-2008   #6 (permalink)


Windows 7 RC
 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by SG View Post
You haven't looked far enough...

In Brief: ReadyBoost doesn't do much boosting

AnandTech: Windows Vista Performance Guide

Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works! | TalkBack on ZDNet

BTW, just type: faults in ready boost in Google for many more opinions.

For some it seems to work and others not. ReadyBoost is like which Antivirus
is the best, you ask and most answers will be a personal opinion. Mine will
follow Ken on this one because Ram is cheap, it's hard installed and I don't
have to worry about loosing it :>)

--
All the best,
SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?
https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/

"JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:0C8E328C-F141-4318-86BF-E6AD7583DCFF@xxxxxx
Quote:
>
> Ken,
> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I boot
> my Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message in
> about 45 seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much
> faster when working with multiple applications that require the paging
> file to be used since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
> position.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
>
SG:

This article you refer to: AnandTech: Windows Vista Performance Guide actually shows how readyboost makes things faster. My own experiments with readyboost are that it cuts my boot up time in 1/2, makes programs run "snappier" and cuts down the shut down time by a 1/3. I'm using 4GB DDR2 800 Ram with a 4GB USB Drive in readyboost configuration. There are always going to be 2 sides to each issue. On this one I recommend readyboost, because at least for me, it makes a difference. My .02
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Old 04-09-2008   #7 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

None of the links support the hypothesis that Ready Boos won't help any
system it is installed on.
For example the Anandtech links never try 1GB plus 2GB of Ready Boost they
only show that a 1GB system will perform better then a 512MB system which of
course is to be expected.
Also the Anandtech links do test with more then one application running
which would reduce the effect of the ReadyBoost paging cache feature.

I suggest that you read the following link and some of the references it
lists to understand better how ReadyBoost does improve performance for
systems with more memory.

http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...eadyboost.aspx



"SG" <sorry@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uJbuzbimIHA.1680@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You haven't looked far enough...
>
> http://lifehacker.com/software/in-br...ing-261318.php
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/sho...spx?i=2917&p=6
>
> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354...ssageID=620676
>
> BTW, just type: faults in ready boost in Google for many more opinions.
>
> For some it seems to work and others not. ReadyBoost is like which
> Antivirus is the best, you ask and most answers will be a personal
> opinion. Mine will follow Ken on this one because Ram is cheap, it's hard
> installed and I don't have to worry about loosing it :>)
>
> --
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>
> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:0C8E328C-F141-4318-86BF-E6AD7583DCFF@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> Ken,
>> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
>> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I boot
>> my Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message in
>> about 45 seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much
>> faster when working with multiple applications that require the paging
>> file to be used since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
>> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
>> position.
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
>>>> TIA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
>>>
>>> If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
>>> slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
>>>
>>> And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
>>> spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
>>> for ReadyBoost use.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>
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Old 04-09-2008   #8 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:48:56 -0700, "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
> Ken,
> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.

That's fine. We don't all have to have the same opinion. My experience
has been very different from yours.



Quote:

> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I boot my
> Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message in about 45
> seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much faster when
> working with multiple applications that require the paging file to be used
> since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
> position.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
> >> TIA.
> >
> >
> >
> > I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
> >
> > If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
> > slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
> >
> > And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
> > spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
> > for ReadyBoost use.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-09-2008   #9 (permalink)
SG


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

As I said, for some it seems to work and others not. It's just one of these
Window things that you can find many articles on supporting both sides. Kind
of reminds me of the Win9X paging file issue and that argument still goes on
today. If it works for you then by all means go for it, if not then there's
nothing lost.

--
All the best,
SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?
https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/

"JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8E3C3B3B-02CC-4B79-9DBA-F1F40C029B5A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> None of the links support the hypothesis that Ready Boos won't help any
> system it is installed on.
> For example the Anandtech links never try 1GB plus 2GB of Ready Boost they
> only show that a 1GB system will perform better then a 512MB system which
> of course is to be expected.
> Also the Anandtech links do test with more then one application running
> which would reduce the effect of the ReadyBoost paging cache feature.
>
> I suggest that you read the following link and some of the references it
> lists to understand better how ReadyBoost does improve performance for
> systems with more memory.
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...eadyboost.aspx
>
>
>
> "SG" <sorry@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uJbuzbimIHA.1680@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You haven't looked far enough...
>>
>> http://lifehacker.com/software/in-br...ing-261318.php
>>
>> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/sho...spx?i=2917&p=6
>>
>> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354...ssageID=620676
>>
>> BTW, just type: faults in ready boost in Google for many more
>> opinions.
>>
>> For some it seems to work and others not. ReadyBoost is like which
>> Antivirus is the best, you ask and most answers will be a personal
>> opinion. Mine will follow Ken on this one because Ram is cheap, it's hard
>> installed and I don't have to worry about loosing it :>)
>>
>> --
>> All the best,
>> SG
>>
>> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
>> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>>
>> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:0C8E328C-F141-4318-86BF-E6AD7583DCFF@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>> Ken,
>>> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
>>> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I
>>> boot my Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download message
>>> in about 45 seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop run much
>>> faster when working with multiple applications that require the paging
>>> file to be used since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on them.
>>> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
>>> position.
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
>>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
>>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
>>>>
>>>> If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
>>>> slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
>>>>
>>>> And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
>>>> spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
>>>> for ReadyBoost use.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-09-2008   #10 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: SD / Ready Boost ?

One of the things I forgot to mention is that with each of my system it took
from one to two weeks for all of the performance improvements to take effect
since I often do not reboot my systems each day but do so every other day.

"SG" <sorry@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u3jaFypmIHA.2328@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As I said, for some it seems to work and others not. It's just one of
> these Window things that you can find many articles on supporting both
> sides. Kind of reminds me of the Win9X paging file issue and that argument
> still goes on today. If it works for you then by all means go for it, if
> not then there's nothing lost.
>
> --
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>
> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8E3C3B3B-02CC-4B79-9DBA-F1F40C029B5A@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> None of the links support the hypothesis that Ready Boos won't help any
>> system it is installed on.
>> For example the Anandtech links never try 1GB plus 2GB of Ready Boost
>> they only show that a 1GB system will perform better then a 512MB system
>> which of course is to be expected.
>> Also the Anandtech links do test with more then one application running
>> which would reduce the effect of the ReadyBoost paging cache feature.
>>
>> I suggest that you read the following link and some of the references it
>> lists to understand better how ReadyBoost does improve performance for
>> systems with more memory.
>>
>> http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...eadyboost.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> "SG" <sorry@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uJbuzbimIHA.1680@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> You haven't looked far enough...
>>>
>>> http://lifehacker.com/software/in-br...ing-261318.php
>>>
>>> http://www.anandtech.com/systems/sho...spx?i=2917&p=6
>>>
>>> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354...ssageID=620676
>>>
>>> BTW, just type: faults in ready boost in Google for many more
>>> opinions.
>>>
>>> For some it seems to work and others not. ReadyBoost is like which
>>> Antivirus is the best, you ask and most answers will be a personal
>>> opinion. Mine will follow Ken on this one because Ram is cheap, it's
>>> hard installed and I don't have to worry about loosing it :>)
>>>
>>> --
>>> All the best,
>>> SG
>>>
>>> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
>>> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>>>
>>> "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:0C8E328C-F141-4318-86BF-E6AD7583DCFF@xxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Ken,
>>>> I totally disagree with your opinion of ready boost.
>>>> Just the super fetch acceleration feature is worth the cost. When I
>>>> boot my Vista desktop I can connect to the internet and download
>>>> message in about 45 seconds. And both my 2GB desktop and my 1GB laptop
>>>> run much faster when working with multiple applications that require
>>>> the paging file to be used since I have installed ReadyBoost memory on
>>>> them.
>>>> I have not seen any MS TechNet article or other link that supports your
>>>> position.
>>>>
>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:mtunv3tfuv7ftio8mipmtek1k4pkmghsfp@xxxxxx
>>>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:51:00 -0700, "Wonderman" <nospamidainc@xxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone recommend an SD card ( 4GB) for use in Vista Ready Boost ?
>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend *against* using ReadyBoost.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have 2GB or more of RAM, the little it might do for you is so
>>>>> slight as to be almost unnoticeable.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if you have less than 2GB of RAM, you would do much better to
>>>>> spend your money on upgrading your RAM to 2GB than on buying a card
>>>>> for ReadyBoost use.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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