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Old 05-08-2008   #1 (permalink)
smdcar


 
 

Vista Usability

I'm 'using' Vista Ultimate -- Or am I -- i'm feeling more like Vista is using
me.

I'm must tell you that I struggled long and hard in my decisoin of whether
to stick with Vista (on my new laptop) or downgrade to XP pro. I choose
Vista.

However, as each day passes, I am regretiing my decision more and more.
Yes, vista is pretty. But i'm a power user, and I guess I just thought
Ultimate would allow me to have pretty and power (i.e., control) at the same
time. This isn't the case.

With each version Microsoft is dummying down the software. Making it less
controllable by those know how and choose to control their operating system.

A perfect example (and only two of many i've noticed) is backup and defrag.
I could not imagine modern backup software not allowing you to control backup
at the file level, or not allow you to set the directoy where the backup
should go. Or, having ANY program without command-line options for those of
us who want to control its use. It's amazing to me. This is how it was
decades ago when we were lucky to have a backup. Defrag isn't any better --
the theme there is HIDE everything about what's going on. Who are you
serving by eliminating this control?

Why are you trying to look and act like a MAC? I'm dissapointed. I use
windows for the control. I don't us MAC because of it's lack of control.
And all Microsoft is doing is wrapping each piece of functionality -
one-by-one - in a 'dummy' wrapper. You are isolating your power users to the
point of abandoment.

If you feel you must do this, why not just in the home version? Or, why
totally eliminate the access door for those who choose to enter?

Can't you (Microsoft) just once be innovative on your own without trying to
copy or emulate someone or something else? Put your wrappers on if you must,
but don't put them on with the attitude of 'we know best, and it's this way
or the highway'. Becasue, before you know it, those of us who ACTUALLY DO
know best will begin to to take you up on your travel offer.

So, let's see an SP2 (quickly) with some true microsoft innovation. Put
back the control everywhere you've removed it -- everywhere your design team
said 'they don't really need to do this, they'll just get themselves in
trouble and generate a support issue"!

Current Windows Supporter.

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Old 05-09-2008   #2 (permalink)


XP Pro/SP3, Vista HP
 
 

Re: Vista Usability

Unfortunately, MS ain't about to change anything by the looks of it. If you want control, then there is no choice but to opt for third party applications that have superior functionality and control.

For backups, try Acronis True Image. This is like the standard software for this stuff. if i am not wrong, you can specify the exact type of backup you want to make.
Complete hard disk drive copy, cloning and image backup software: computer files and disk copying

For defragmentation, try Diskeeper 2008 Pro. It's the best defragger around in concept and execution.
Defrag Automatically to Maximize Computer Performance and Reliability

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by smdcar View Post
I'm 'using' Vista Ultimate -- Or am I -- i'm feeling more like Vista is using
me.

I'm must tell you that I struggled long and hard in my decisoin of whether
to stick with Vista (on my new laptop) or downgrade to XP pro. I choose
Vista.

However, as each day passes, I am regretiing my decision more and more.
Yes, vista is pretty. But i'm a power user, and I guess I just thought
Ultimate would allow me to have pretty and power (i.e., control) at the same
time. This isn't the case.

With each version Microsoft is dummying down the software. Making it less
controllable by those know how and choose to control their operating system.

A perfect example (and only two of many i've noticed) is backup and defrag.
I could not imagine modern backup software not allowing you to control backup
at the file level, or not allow you to set the directoy where the backup
should go. Or, having ANY program without command-line options for those of
us who want to control its use. It's amazing to me. This is how it was
decades ago when we were lucky to have a backup. Defrag isn't any better --
the theme there is HIDE everything about what's going on. Who are you
serving by eliminating this control?

Why are you trying to look and act like a MAC? I'm dissapointed. I use
windows for the control. I don't us MAC because of it's lack of control.
And all Microsoft is doing is wrapping each piece of functionality -
one-by-one - in a 'dummy' wrapper. You are isolating your power users to the
point of abandoment.

If you feel you must do this, why not just in the home version? Or, why
totally eliminate the access door for those who choose to enter?

Can't you (Microsoft) just once be innovative on your own without trying to
copy or emulate someone or something else? Put your wrappers on if you must,
but don't put them on with the attitude of 'we know best, and it's this way
or the highway'. Becasue, before you know it, those of us who ACTUALLY DO
know best will begin to to take you up on your travel offer.

So, let's see an SP2 (quickly) with some true microsoft innovation. Put
back the control everywhere you've removed it -- everywhere your design team
said 'they don't really need to do this, they'll just get themselves in
trouble and generate a support issue"!

Current Windows Supporter.

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

Windows Vista Community: Discussion Groups
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Old 05-10-2008   #3 (permalink)
smdcar


 
 

Re: Vista Usability

I agree. I will definitely be looking at some 3rd party solutions - i'll
check those two out. Too bad and sad right? That one would have to augment
the 'ultimate' with 3rd party soulutions. Oh well.

"Benjamin" wrote:
Quote:

>
> Unfortunately, MS ain't about to change anything by the looks of it. If
> you want control, then there is no choice but to opt for third party
> applications that have superior functionality and control.
>
> For backups, try Acronis True Image. This is like the standard software
> for this stuff. if i am not wrong, you can specify the exact type of
> backup you want to make.
> 'Complete hard disk drive copy, cloning and image backup software:
> computer files and disk copying'
> (http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/)
>
> For defragmentation, try Diskeeper 2008 Pro. It's the best defragger
> around in concept and execution.
> 'Defrag Automatically to Maximize Computer Performance and Reliability'
> (http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp)
>
> smdcar;706419 Wrote:
Quote:

> > I'm 'using' Vista Ultimate -- Or am I -- i'm feeling more like Vista is
> > using
> > me.
> >
> > I'm must tell you that I struggled long and hard in my decisoin of
> > whether
> > to stick with Vista (on my new laptop) or downgrade to XP pro. I
> > choose
> > Vista.
> >
> > However, as each day passes, I am regretiing my decision more and
> > more.
> > Yes, vista is pretty. But i'm a power user, and I guess I just
> > thought
> > Ultimate would allow me to have pretty and power (i.e., control) at the
> > same
> > time. This isn't the case.
> >
> > With each version Microsoft is dummying down the software. Making it
> > less
> > controllable by those know how and choose to control their operating
> > system.
> >
> > A perfect example (and only two of many i've noticed) is backup and
> > defrag.
> > I could not imagine modern backup software not allowing you to control
> > backup
> > at the file level, or not allow you to set the directoy where the
> > backup
> > should go. Or, having ANY program without command-line options for
> > those of
> > us who want to control its use. It's amazing to me. This is how it
> > was
> > decades ago when we were lucky to have a backup. Defrag isn't any
> > better --
> > the theme there is HIDE everything about what's going on. Who are
> > you
> > serving by eliminating this control?
> >
> > Why are you trying to look and act like a MAC? I'm dissapointed. I
> > use
> > windows for the control. I don't us MAC because of it's lack of
> > control.
> > And all Microsoft is doing is wrapping each piece of functionality -
> > one-by-one - in a 'dummy' wrapper. You are isolating your power users
> > to the
> > point of abandoment.
> >
> > If you feel you must do this, why not just in the home version? Or,
> > why
> > totally eliminate the access door for those who choose to enter?
> >
> > Can't you (Microsoft) just once be innovative on your own without
> > trying to
> > copy or emulate someone or something else? Put your wrappers on if you
> > must,
> > but don't put them on with the attitude of 'we know best, and it's this
> > way
> > or the highway'. Becasue, before you know it, those of us who
> > ACTUALLY DO
> > know best will begin to to take you up on your travel offer.
> >
> > So, let's see an SP2 (quickly) with some true microsoft innovation.
> > Put
> > back the control everywhere you've removed it -- everywhere your design
> > team
> > said 'they don't really need to do this, they'll just get themselves
> > in
> > trouble and generate a support issue"!
> >
> > Current Windows Supporter.
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> > "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> > then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > 'Windows Vista Community: Discussion Groups'
> > (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ce_maintenance)
>
>
> --
> Benjamin
>
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Old 05-10-2008   #4 (permalink)
smdcar


 
 

Re: Vista Usability

Yea I know, but I really can't. The reason is that I am a developer in
microsoft technologies and use all their tools (Visual Studio, .net, IISm SQL
Server, etc.) Linux just wouldn't be a solution for me.

"Gordon" wrote:
Quote:

> "smdcar" <smdcar@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:278FCB54-EB9A-4427-BB58-0F2B645BE290@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >
> > Current Windows Supporter.
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft,
>
> I have a suggestion for you - Linux.
>
>
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