![]() |
![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() |
| Welcome to Windows Vista Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find solutions with any problems, errors or issues you are experiencing with Windows Vista. The Vista forum also covers news and updates and has an extensive Windows Vista tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks. |
| |||||||
![]() |
| |
| | #1 (permalink) |
| | Vista Excessive Disk Activity For the past few weeks I have been attempting to create a Vista Home Premium configuration on a new Core 2 Duo PC. I though that I had finally created a stable config with all the proper hardware drivers and many of my apps. I then noticed that the disk activity light was on solid - and I couldn't figure out why. I ran a number of process tools, the only one that seemed to provide useful information being Perfmon. Perfmon showed two distinct types of disk activity. The first, was causing the disk activity light to stay on solid, and was caused by the reading of files on my D: data disk. I found that by stopping/starting the SysMain Superfetch service I can turn off/turn on this constant disk read activity. It appears that Superfetch looks through previously opened user data files - even if they were used only once, are 4+GB in size, and may never be used again from within VISTA. It is beyond my comprehension what possible good this type of activity would do me, or any other VISTA user. After I get to the point where I've installed Lightroom/Photoshop/Picasa/PaperPort and other apps that routinely access and/or index GB of user files - will access to my D: drive ever stop? Why would Superfetch bother with non-executable data files on a non-system partition? After reading the MS VISTA Kernel description I know that turning off SuperFetch will impact certain VISTA features - so what?. Second issue: I noticed a secondary disk activity that consists of continuous writes to various files on C: that occur at the rate of a few each second. Again, I attempted to isolate that IO activity with Perfmon, including noting the PIDs and then attempting to stop the Applications with that PID - with no success. In an attempt to further diagnose the issues, I restored a C: partition backup for the first OOTB Vista configuration (no updates, drivers, apps installed). The steady drone of repeated disk writes to C: also occurs in that base build. The disk writes involves areas such as: files lastalive0.dat and lastalive1.dat from svchost LocalSystemNetworkRestricted. c:\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE c:\$Logfile (NTFS Volume Log) c:\windows\System32\config\DEFAULT from System This is my only Vista system, so I have none other to compare it to. I've turned off Indexing, turned off Defender, uninstalled AVG, turned off disk defrags, and disabled all items in the Scheduler - the C: disk activity goes on. I find all this disk IO activity unwanted, distracting, and possibly damaging to disk drive health in the long term. I don't understand why this type of activity should be necessary for a single-user desktop PC and why it is so darned difficult to determine what is causing it. I'd appreciate any assistance in explaining what this constant disk C: write activity might be, what other diagnostic tools I could use to isolate the causes, and how to stop it (other than to install WINXP or buy a Mac). |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #2 (permalink) |
| | RE: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Have you tried right-clicking on the Task Bar, and bringing up Task Manager to see what is going on? -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "rbd" wrote: Quote: > For the past few weeks I have been attempting to create a Vista Home > Premium configuration on a new Core 2 Duo PC. I though that I had > finally created a stable config with all the proper hardware drivers and > many of my apps. I then noticed that the disk activity light was on > solid - and I couldn't figure out why. > > I ran a number of process tools, the only one that seemed to provide > useful information being Perfmon. Perfmon showed two distinct types of > disk activity. > > > The first, was causing the disk activity light to stay on solid, and was > caused by the reading of files on my D: data disk. I found that by > stopping/starting the SysMain Superfetch service I can turn off/turn on > this constant disk read activity. It appears that Superfetch looks > through previously opened user data files - even if they were used only > once, are 4+GB in size, and may never be used again from within VISTA. > It is beyond my comprehension what possible good this type of activity > would do me, or any other VISTA user. After I get to the point where > I've installed Lightroom/Photoshop/Picasa/PaperPort and other apps that > routinely access and/or index GB of user files - will access to my D: > drive ever stop? Why would Superfetch bother with non-executable data > files on a non-system partition? After reading the MS VISTA Kernel > description I know that turning off SuperFetch will impact certain VISTA > features - so what?. > > > Second issue: I noticed a secondary disk activity that consists of > continuous writes to various files on C: that occur at the rate of a few > each second. Again, I attempted to isolate that IO activity with > Perfmon, including noting the PIDs and then attempting to stop the > Applications with that PID - with no success. > > In an attempt to further diagnose the issues, I restored a C: partition > backup for the first OOTB Vista configuration (no updates, drivers, apps > installed). The steady drone of repeated disk writes to C: also occurs > in that base build. The disk writes involves areas such as: > > files lastalive0.dat and lastalive1.dat > from svchost LocalSystemNetworkRestricted. > > c:\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE > c:\$Logfile (NTFS Volume Log) > c:\windows\System32\config\DEFAULT > from System > > This is my only Vista system, so I have none other to compare it to. > > I've turned off Indexing, turned off Defender, uninstalled AVG, turned > off disk defrags, and disabled all items in the Scheduler - the C: disk > activity goes on. > > I find all this disk IO activity unwanted, distracting, and possibly > damaging to disk drive health in the long term. I don't understand why > this type of activity should be necessary for a single-user desktop PC > and why it is so darned difficult to determine what is causing it. > > I'd appreciate any assistance in explaining what this constant disk C: > write activity might be, what other diagnostic tools I could use to > isolate the causes, and how to stop it (other than to install WINXP or > buy a Mac). > > |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #3 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity rbd wrote: Quote: > For the past few weeks I have been attempting to create a Vista Home > Premium configuration on a new Core 2 Duo PC. I though that I had > finally created a stable config with all the proper hardware drivers and > many of my apps. I then noticed that the disk activity light was on > solid - and I couldn't figure out why. > > I ran a number of process tools, the only one that seemed to provide > useful information being Perfmon. Perfmon showed two distinct types of > disk activity. > > > The first, was causing the disk activity light to stay on solid, and was > caused by the reading of files on my D: data disk. I found that by > stopping/starting the SysMain Superfetch service I can turn off/turn on > this constant disk read activity. It appears that Superfetch looks > through previously opened user data files - even if they were used only > once, are 4+GB in size, and may never be used again from within VISTA. > It is beyond my comprehension what possible good this type of activity > would do me, or any other VISTA user. After I get to the point where > I've installed Lightroom/Photoshop/Picasa/PaperPort and other apps that > routinely access and/or index GB of user files - will access to my D: > drive ever stop? Why would Superfetch bother with non-executable data > files on a non-system partition? After reading the MS VISTA Kernel > description I know that turning off SuperFetch will impact certain VISTA > features - so what?. > > > Second issue: I noticed a secondary disk activity that consists of > continuous writes to various files on C: that occur at the rate of a few > each second. Again, I attempted to isolate that IO activity with > Perfmon, including noting the PIDs and then attempting to stop the > Applications with that PID - with no success. > > In an attempt to further diagnose the issues, I restored a C: partition > backup for the first OOTB Vista configuration (no updates, drivers, apps > installed). The steady drone of repeated disk writes to C: also occurs > in that base build. The disk writes involves areas such as: > > files lastalive0.dat and lastalive1.dat > from svchost LocalSystemNetworkRestricted. > > c:\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE > c:\$Logfile (NTFS Volume Log) > c:\windows\System32\config\DEFAULT > from System > > This is my only Vista system, so I have none other to compare it to. > > I've turned off Indexing, turned off Defender, uninstalled AVG, turned > off disk defrags, and disabled all items in the Scheduler - the C: disk > activity goes on. > > I find all this disk IO activity unwanted, distracting, and possibly > damaging to disk drive health in the long term. I don't understand why > this type of activity should be necessary for a single-user desktop PC > and why it is so darned difficult to determine what is causing it. > > I'd appreciate any assistance in explaining what this constant disk C: > write activity might be, what other diagnostic tools I could use to > isolate the causes, and how to stop it (other than to install WINXP or > buy a Mac). > You could try right clicking on the dis drive icon and in properties turn off "Index this drive..." whatever. Seems like that made a difference fo me, and since I rarely use "Search" functions the indexing time is just wasted. |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #4 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Atleast I am not alone, on this. I also found the virus program, spy program, etc doesn't matter if they are off. The problem still happens. Although common sense says this, it can't be left out. The drive can't be scanned for errors. You get a "drive can't be scanned when in use." Right now the accessing has been giong on for almost a week. The version used is vista basic. With posting what they are microsoft may need to look into this. Even indexing is off. "Charlie Tame" wrote: Quote: > rbd wrote: Quote: > > For the past few weeks I have been attempting to create a Vista Home > > Premium configuration on a new Core 2 Duo PC. I though that I had > > finally created a stable config with all the proper hardware drivers and > > many of my apps. I then noticed that the disk activity light was on > > solid - and I couldn't figure out why. > > > > I ran a number of process tools, the only one that seemed to provide > > useful information being Perfmon. Perfmon showed two distinct types of > > disk activity. > > > > > > The first, was causing the disk activity light to stay on solid, and was > > caused by the reading of files on my D: data disk. I found that by > > stopping/starting the SysMain Superfetch service I can turn off/turn on > > this constant disk read activity. It appears that Superfetch looks > > through previously opened user data files - even if they were used only > > once, are 4+GB in size, and may never be used again from within VISTA. > > It is beyond my comprehension what possible good this type of activity > > would do me, or any other VISTA user. After I get to the point where > > I've installed Lightroom/Photoshop/Picasa/PaperPort and other apps that > > routinely access and/or index GB of user files - will access to my D: > > drive ever stop? Why would Superfetch bother with non-executable data > > files on a non-system partition? After reading the MS VISTA Kernel > > description I know that turning off SuperFetch will impact certain VISTA > > features - so what?. > > > > > > Second issue: I noticed a secondary disk activity that consists of > > continuous writes to various files on C: that occur at the rate of a few > > each second. Again, I attempted to isolate that IO activity with > > Perfmon, including noting the PIDs and then attempting to stop the > > Applications with that PID - with no success. > > > > In an attempt to further diagnose the issues, I restored a C: partition > > backup for the first OOTB Vista configuration (no updates, drivers, apps > > installed). The steady drone of repeated disk writes to C: also occurs > > in that base build. The disk writes involves areas such as: > > > > files lastalive0.dat and lastalive1.dat > > from svchost LocalSystemNetworkRestricted. > > > > c:\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE > > c:\$Logfile (NTFS Volume Log) > > c:\windows\System32\config\DEFAULT > > from System > > > > This is my only Vista system, so I have none other to compare it to. > > > > I've turned off Indexing, turned off Defender, uninstalled AVG, turned > > off disk defrags, and disabled all items in the Scheduler - the C: disk > > activity goes on. > > > > I find all this disk IO activity unwanted, distracting, and possibly > > damaging to disk drive health in the long term. I don't understand why > > this type of activity should be necessary for a single-user desktop PC > > and why it is so darned difficult to determine what is causing it. > > > > I'd appreciate any assistance in explaining what this constant disk C: > > write activity might be, what other diagnostic tools I could use to > > isolate the causes, and how to stop it (other than to install WINXP or > > buy a Mac). > > > > You could try right clicking on the dis drive icon and in properties > turn off "Index this drive..." whatever. Seems like that made a > difference fo me, and since I rarely use "Search" functions the indexing > time is just wasted. > |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #5 (permalink) |
| Vista Ultimate x64 & Business x64 | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Just wanted to let you know I'm having the same problems. Nothing gets me so totally mad as when the hard drive is going crazy. I intensely hope that it is not a virus spreading around the drive ![]() For the record, I've turned off: *indexing *defragmenting (I use this manually instead) *page file (has 8 GB RAM - no need for page file) *superfetch (from services.msc - not generally recommended) Last edited by Ursa; 05-26-2008 at 03:36 PM.. |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #6 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Hi, More likely excessive paging, and disabling superfetch only makes it worse. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Ursa" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:2c1c051b3c2dc0576bc1d3de45af4ccd@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: > > Just wanted to let you know I'm having the same problems. Nothing gets > me so totally mad as when the hard drive is going crazy. I intensely > hope that it is not a virus spreading around the drive ![]() > > For the record, I've turned off: > *indexing > *defragmenting > *superfetch (from services.msc) > > > -- > Ursa |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #7 (permalink) |
| Vista Ultimate x64 & Business x64 | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Forgot to mention that I've turned off my paging file too found the superfetch tip in another forum. But I'll turn that one back on. |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #8 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Bad tip, as is disabling the paging file (unless of course you like 'out of memory' errors and slow performance). -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Ursa" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:08621d049bf97ebeaa57c395db4ebc99@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: > > Forgot to mention that I've turned off my paging file too found the> superfetch tip in another forum. But I'll turn that one back on. > > > -- > Ursa |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #9 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Well there is one thing a lot of us forget. Most of us have more than one computer and therefore have a router. Routers generally have a firewall. If we do nothing it tends to protect us. If no router is present then you need to look to see if your drive activity is because the computer is somehow compromised. Yes Vista (Allegedly) has a "Firewall" but despite MS' best efforts if Vista is compromised then the Vista firewall also is vulnerable. ronnie wrote: Quote: > Atleast I am not alone, on this. I also found the virus program, spy > program, etc doesn't matter if they are off. The problem still happens. > Although common sense says this, it can't be left out. The drive can't be > scanned for errors. You get a "drive can't be scanned when in use." Right now > the accessing has been giong on for almost a week. The version used is vista > basic. With posting what they are microsoft may need to look into this. Even > indexing is off. > "Charlie Tame" wrote: > Quote: >> rbd wrote: Quote: >>> For the past few weeks I have been attempting to create a Vista Home >>> Premium configuration on a new Core 2 Duo PC. I though that I had >>> finally created a stable config with all the proper hardware drivers and >>> many of my apps. I then noticed that the disk activity light was on >>> solid - and I couldn't figure out why. >>> >>> I ran a number of process tools, the only one that seemed to provide >>> useful information being Perfmon. Perfmon showed two distinct types of >>> disk activity. >>> >>> >>> The first, was causing the disk activity light to stay on solid, and was >>> caused by the reading of files on my D: data disk. I found that by >>> stopping/starting the SysMain Superfetch service I can turn off/turn on >>> this constant disk read activity. It appears that Superfetch looks >>> through previously opened user data files - even if they were used only >>> once, are 4+GB in size, and may never be used again from within VISTA. >>> It is beyond my comprehension what possible good this type of activity >>> would do me, or any other VISTA user. After I get to the point where >>> I've installed Lightroom/Photoshop/Picasa/PaperPort and other apps that >>> routinely access and/or index GB of user files - will access to my D: >>> drive ever stop? Why would Superfetch bother with non-executable data >>> files on a non-system partition? After reading the MS VISTA Kernel >>> description I know that turning off SuperFetch will impact certain VISTA >>> features - so what?. >>> >>> >>> Second issue: I noticed a secondary disk activity that consists of >>> continuous writes to various files on C: that occur at the rate of a few >>> each second. Again, I attempted to isolate that IO activity with >>> Perfmon, including noting the PIDs and then attempting to stop the >>> Applications with that PID - with no success. >>> >>> In an attempt to further diagnose the issues, I restored a C: partition >>> backup for the first OOTB Vista configuration (no updates, drivers, apps >>> installed). The steady drone of repeated disk writes to C: also occurs >>> in that base build. The disk writes involves areas such as: >>> >>> files lastalive0.dat and lastalive1.dat >>> from svchost LocalSystemNetworkRestricted. >>> >>> c:\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE >>> c:\$Logfile (NTFS Volume Log) >>> c:\windows\System32\config\DEFAULT >>> from System >>> >>> This is my only Vista system, so I have none other to compare it to. >>> >>> I've turned off Indexing, turned off Defender, uninstalled AVG, turned >>> off disk defrags, and disabled all items in the Scheduler - the C: disk >>> activity goes on. >>> >>> I find all this disk IO activity unwanted, distracting, and possibly >>> damaging to disk drive health in the long term. I don't understand why >>> this type of activity should be necessary for a single-user desktop PC >>> and why it is so darned difficult to determine what is causing it. >>> >>> I'd appreciate any assistance in explaining what this constant disk C: >>> write activity might be, what other diagnostic tools I could use to >>> isolate the causes, and how to stop it (other than to install WINXP or >>> buy a Mac). >>> >> You could try right clicking on the dis drive icon and in properties >> turn off "Index this drive..." whatever. Seems like that made a >> difference fo me, and since I rarely use "Search" functions the indexing >> time is just wasted. >> |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #10 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista Excessive Disk Activity Rick - thank you for your reply. Definitely not excessive paging - just read activity to very specific data files and write activity to very specific VISTA files. I'll gladly turn Superfetch back on if anyone tell me how to keep it from reading through every data file that I've ever opened - including 5+GB data and backup files. So far, disabling Superfetch has only made things much better. (Unless Perfmon and my disk activity light are lying.) Rick Rogers wrote: Quote: > Hi, > > More likely excessive paging, and disabling superfetch only makes it worse. > |
My System Specs![]() |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| |
Similar Threads | ||||
| Thread | Forum | |||
| Vista excessive disk writing problem is back :( | General Discussion | |||
| Vista Disk Activity | Vista General | |||
| Excessive hard disk activity - please help! | Vista General | |||
| Vista excessive disk access | Vista performance & maintenance | |||
| excessive hard drive activity vista premium | Vista General | |||