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Old 06-29-2008   #1 (permalink)
Amoranemix


 
 

How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups as
that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)

I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons' why.
What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk (the
disk that Windows is installed on—also called the C drive) or the boot disk
(the disk that Windows uses to start your computer—also called the startup
disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.

Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
--
Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #2 (permalink)
Donny Broome


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

Acronis True Image 11 Home
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/

You can purchase it from NewEgg for $30, free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832200004

Highly Recommended!


------------------------------
Donny Broome
www.broomeman.com/vista
www.broomeman.com/tech




"Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
> backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups as
> that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)
>
> I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
> internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons' why.
> What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk (the
> disk that Windows is installed on—also called the C drive) or the boot disk
> (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer—also called the startup
> disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>
> Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
> --
> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #3 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

D has to be partitioned/formated before it can be used, this can be done via
Disk Management

"Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
> backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups
> as
> that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)
>
> I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
> internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
> why.
> What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
> (the
> disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
> disk
> (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the startup
> disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>
> Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
> --
> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

XP is installed on D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No-one reads posts here!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"DL" wrote:
Quote:

> D has to be partitioned/formated before it can be used, this can be done via
> Disk Management
>
> "Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
> > backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups
> > as
> > that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)
> >
> > I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
> > internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
> > why.
> > What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
> > (the
> > disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
> > disk
> > (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the startup
> > disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
> >
> > Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
> > --
> > Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #5 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

And the o/s doesnt see D

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8EA48E7B-66CF-47C8-B229-06FA0A731C38@xxxxxx
Quote:

> XP is installed on D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> No-one reads posts here!
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> D has to be partitioned/formated before it can be used, this can be done
>> via
>> Disk Management
>>
>> "Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a
>> > decent
>> > backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my
>> > backups
>> > as
>> > that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS
>> > does.)
>> >
>> > I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
>> > internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
>> > why.
>> > What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
>> > (the
>> > disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
>> > disk
>> > (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the
>> > startup
>> > disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>> >
>> > Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
>> > --
>> > Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #6 (permalink)
Charlie Tame


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

Well go to "Manage" and see if the drive appears there at all.

Two reasons I can think of for a drive not showing up if it has the old
FAT format and just possibly that you have different login and
password on the two systems and so you don't have "Permission" to see
it. When you right click computer and go manage, disk drives then you
may see it as there but having no name or something. As to what will
happen if you change anything I think that is anybody's guess.

I am not sure about any of this, just hoping to come up with a clue, so
please wait for other advice if you get to see it there.


DL wrote:
Quote:

> And the o/s doesnt see D
>
> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8EA48E7B-66CF-47C8-B229-06FA0A731C38@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> XP is installed on D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> No-one reads posts here!
>> --
>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>>
>>
>> "DL" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> D has to be partitioned/formated before it can be used, this can be done
>>> via
>>> Disk Management
>>>
>>> "Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
>>>> On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a
>>>> decent
>>>> backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my
>>>> backups
>>>> as
>>>> that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS
>>>> does.)
>>>>
>>>> I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
>>>> internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
>>>> why.
>>>> What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
>>>> (the
>>>> disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
>>>> disk
>>>> (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the
>>>> startup
>>>> disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
>>>> --
>>>> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.
>>>
>>>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #7 (permalink)
AJR


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

Okay - here goes - regarding "...I want to backup files from internal drive
C to a physically separate internal drive D. Drive D won't show up...." -
evidently D does not show as a destination for the backup - recognized by
the system otherwise.

About "...that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ..." -
not so "Complete Backup and File backup" quite good.

Backup programs/utilities (those that I know) do not permit backing up to
system/boot partitions/drives.
Both the C and D drives are system/boot drives (Vista and XP).

Solution - another internal drive, external drive or removeable media
(DVD/CD)


"Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
> backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups
> as
> that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)
>
> I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
> internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
> why.
> What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
> (the
> disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
> disk
> (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the startup
> disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>
> Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
> --
> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2008   #8 (permalink)
AJR


 
 

Re: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

This may be a duplicate post - if so I apologize.

Okay - here goes - regarding "...I want to backup files from internal drive
C to a physically separate internal drive D. Drive D won't show up...." -
evidently D does not show as a destination for the backup - recognized by
the system otherwise.

About "...that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ..." -
not so "Complete Backup and File backup" quite good.

Backup programs/utilities (those that I know) do not permit backing up to
system/boot partitions/drives.
Both the C and D drives are system/boot drives (Vista and XP).

Solution - another internal drive, external drive or removeable media
(DVD/CD)

"Amoranemix" <Amoranemix@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8B17937E-B5CF-4C31-8A83-9225AE636FE6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Windows XP I used WinRAR for my backups because the OS lacked a decent
> backup system. To my surprise with Vista I still use WinRAR for my backups
> as
> that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system either ! (MacOS does.)
>
> I want to backup files from internal drive C to a physically separate
> internal drive D. Drive D won't show up. The help gives some 'reasons'
> why.
> What comes closest seems to be ''The location is either the system disk
> (the
> disk that Windows is installed on-also called the C drive) or the boot
> disk
> (the disk that Windows uses to start your computer-also called the startup
> disk).'' as Windows XP is installed on drive D.
>
> Is there a convenient way to back up on drive D and if so how ?
> --
> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-06-2008   #9 (permalink)
Amoranemix


 
 

RE: How to back up to an internal hard drive with Vista ?

Thanks for your responses.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Donny Broome
You can purchase it from NewEgg for $30, free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832200004
I
live in Europe.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Charlie Tame
As for RAR I don't know, if you have no OS at all could
you recover
anything? With Acronis you can effectively "Image" the drive to a
file.
As long as the data are intact I don't see why not.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by DL
And the o/s doesnt see D
It's only Back-up Centre that
doesn't see D. So far Imake a compressed copy of data with WinRAR and move it
to D. That's what I did with my old XP computer (which also had two drives
and XP on both) and continued doing after the new OS again could not provide
a better alternative.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by AJR
About "...that OS doesn't seem to have a decent backup system
either ..." -
not so "Complete Backup and File backup" quite good.
How can I find
it. Windows Help and Search don't refer to it.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by AJR
Backup programs/utilities (those that I know) do not permit
backing up to
system/boot partitions/drives.
Both the C and D drives are system/boot drives (Vista and
XP).
Arconis is in principle able to back-up on D.

I tried the 15-day trial version of Arconis True Image 11. Three backup
attempts of data to D failed. There was no reliable estimate of remaining
time and computer became very slow so I aborted and had to restart the
computer each time to make it responsive again. I also tried a small (260MB)
and tiny (775kB) backup and recovery as test. The tiny one worked. The small
one had an error during recovery and only about 75% of the data was restored.
I think WinRAR works better.

Maybe I should look of other commercial backup software.
Quote:

> --
> Be careful what you wish for; it might come true.
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