Vista - Very slow internet browsing

I have installed Vista RC1 on a few machines, but have a problem (on all
machines) where some sites are either incredibly slow or just seem to grind
to a halt and not load.



Some sites are ok e.g google, but most others including microsoft.com seem
to load a bit of the page, page title, but then stop. Iv'e tried using IE7
and also FireFox, but get the same problem.

Under internet options> lan settings, I do not have 'Automatically detect
settings' ticked. (though it is the same with it ticked) and I have also
tried turning off Phishing filter, protected mode and things like activex and
java.

The same sites open fine with IE7 or Firefox under windows XP. It is not
just internet pages either as downloads on Vista seem to be the same, e.g.
attempting to download firefox will gert about 20k, then stop. (on a 2mb line
-fine on XP)

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Alastair

"Alastair" wrote:

> It is not
> just internet pages either as downloads on Vista seem to be the same, e.g.
> attempting to download firefox will gert about 20k, then stop. (on a 2mb line
> -fine on XP)

I have the same issue

Same problem here as well. Vista is completely unusable to me with this
issue. I can browse the same sites without issue on a neighboring XP and 2003
Server machine. It seems like I narrowed it down to links that
forward/redirect. Search engines do not work at all except MSN...imagine
that.

I've tried disabling UAC, adding the specific site to my list of Trusted
Sites, completely neutered IE7 turning off all security features (pop-up
blocker, phishing check, protected mode), disabled Windows Defender, disabled
the firewall. No matter what I try I just can't browse 90% of the websites
out there.

"BillD" wrote:

>
>
> "Alastair" wrote:
>
> > It is not
> > just internet pages either as downloads on Vista seem to be the same, e.g.
> > attempting to download firefox will gert about 20k, then stop. (on a 2mb line
> > -fine on XP)
>
> I have the same issue

Very common problem - try the following solutions

Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.


The major fix is this and I quote...

It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this network auto tuning with the command:

netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a IE7 issue.

unquote

Best of Luck

Thanks for the suggestions but I actually found the cause of my problem.
After I installed some IM applications I realized my network connection was
bouncing. I downloaded an older driver for my onboard LAN connection (Asus
motherboard), replacing the built-in Vista driver and everything magically
started working. No more browser issues, no more bouncing network
connections. I put my browser back to default settings, turning all the
security features back on and everything is working great.

"rapierau" wrote:

>
> Very common problem - try the following solutions
>
> Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
>
>
> The major fix is this and I quote...
>
> It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> network auto tuning with the command:
>
> netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> IE7 issue.
>
> unquote
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
> --
> rapierau
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>

Thanks for the suggestions but I actually found the cause of my problem.
After I installed some IM applications I realized my network connection was
bouncing. I downloaded an older driver for my onboard LAN connection (Asus
motherboard), replacing the built-in Vista driver and everything magically
started working. No more browser issues, no more bouncing network
connections. I put my browser back to default settings, turning all the
security features back on and everything is working great.

"rapierau" wrote:

>
> Very common problem - try the following solutions
>
> Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
>
>
> The major fix is this and I quote...
>
> It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> network auto tuning with the command:
>
> netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> IE7 issue.
>
> unquote
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
> --
> rapierau
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> rapierau's Profile: http://vista64.net/forums/member.php?userid=146
> View this thread: http://vista64.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
>
>

This sorted my problem, thanks for all the help.

"rapierau" wrote:

>
> Very common problem - try the following solutions
>
> Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
>
>
> The major fix is this and I quote...
>
> It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> network auto tuning with the command:
>
> netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> IE7 issue.
>
> unquote
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
> --
> rapierau
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> rapierau's Profile: http://vista64.net/forums/member.php?userid=146
> View this thread: http://vista64.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
>
>

"rapierau" wrote:

>
> Very common problem - try the following solutions
>
> Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
>
>
> The major fix is this and I quote...
>
> It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> network auto tuning with the command:
>
> netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> IE7 issue.
>
> unquote
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
> --
> rapierau
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> rapierau's Profile: http://vista64.net/forums/member.php?userid=146
> View this thread: http://vista64.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
>
>

This solutuion worked for me! I had tried everything and I had never tried
the autotune thing unitl now.
Although, I dont think setting the system to default autotune is the best
way to do the final release..
I mean really this will piss lot of users off.. if their browser doesnt work
right out of the box. Of course this is assuming this issue is not changed
in RC2 or the final release.



"rapierau" wrote:

>
> Very common problem - try the following solutions
>
> Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
>
>
> The major fix is this and I quote...
>
> It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> network auto tuning with the command:
>
> netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
>
> Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> IE7 issue.
>
> unquote
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
> --
> rapierau
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> rapierau's Profile: http://vista64.net/forums/member.php?userid=146
> View this thread: http://vista64.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
>
>

Thanks for all the great help everyone!
Sadly none of the previously mentioned steps have helped my situation... let
me give some more info in case anyone would like to attempt to direct me...
I started experiencing the issue of extremely slow downloads. This would
occur on many programs: IE7, iTunesMusicStore, etc.
This problem is only on my comptuer running Vista. There are other comp's
in the house, running off the same modem (some using a router), and their
download speed is still great. My ISP is AT&T DSL, and it is usually
extremely fast.
Many downloads will timeout. My iTunes downloads, for example, always give
me a network timeout, whereas they would normally take about 2 whole seconds
to complete.
In general, basic internet usage is slower, but not totally unusable. Any
large downloads, however, will not complete at all. If I try to watch a
video on youtube, for example, only the first few seconds will download.
I've tried disabling all add-ons... all security/firewall programs... ran
the command prompt line mentioned above...

Oh and finally let me say that I have been using Vista for a few months with
excellent download speed. The probem started only recently....

"Calvin D. Cantrell" wrote:

> This solutuion worked for me! I had tried everything and I had never tried
> the autotune thing unitl now.
> Although, I dont think setting the system to default autotune is the best
> way to do the final release..
> I mean really this will piss lot of users off.. if their browser doesnt work
> right out of the box. Of course this is assuming this issue is not changed
> in RC2 or the final release.
>
>
>
> "rapierau" wrote:
>
> >
> > Very common problem - try the following solutions
> >
> > Turn off TLS encryption in the Internet Options advanced tab and turn
> > on SSL 2.0. This will fix some secure pages.
> >
> >
> > The major fix is this and I quote...
> >
> > It appears that some sites cannot be opened with Vista (beta 2) because
> > the webservers don't respond well to the tcp autotuning feature that is
> > enabled by default. I managed to access the sites by turning off this
> > network auto tuning with the command:
> >
> > netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
> >
> > Since this is a network setting, it affects all browsers. It's not a
> > IE7 issue.
> >
> > unquote
> >
> > Best of Luck
> >
> >
> > --
> > rapierau
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > rapierau's Profile: http://vista64.net/forums/member.php?userid=146
> > View this thread: http://vista64.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19228
> >
> >