Vista - Windows Defender rarely working

03-22-2009

I have a new Dell Studio Desktop 540 using Vista SP1. Very early on I
started getting "Windows defender" error on screen "Application failed to
initialize: error 0x800106ba. I was getting it on each startup until
isolating via MS Config.

The "Windows Defender" program does not appear in control panel.

I went to "Windows update" page, as I arrived there it said on important
update was waiting, by chance it was a windows defender update, I installed
it and it worked and I was able to launch windows defender. As I had altered
the start-up in MSCONFIG I restored it to normal start-up and machine
started fine without any error.

However, when I select "Windows defender" from start-up menu I am getting
the same 0x800106ba error code. The program does still not appear in control
panel.

HOWEVER! It now runs ok sometimes but not others! When it doesn't run
I'm getting 0x800106ba error.

Dell suggested I revert PC back to as built status, but as I have just spent
2 days putting all my programs on and the fact that 2 hours ago I proved
Windows Defender does sometimes work perfectly well I'm not doing that.

Anyone got any ideas?

Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove
programs
and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list!

Thanks

03-22-2009

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs"
<pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove
>programs
>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list!

It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista.

You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like.

Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware
protection.

DDW
--
Reply via this group
No email please

03-23-2009

I had trouble with W/Defender keep turning off:
I run Vista Premium with Windows 2003 & Norton Internet Security.

My Defender worked fine until after the Feb updates, not sure what happened ?

I Followed the Paul Wogstad /Joe Blogs fix and since have had no more trouble.

Hope this information helps.

muffet

"Joe Bloggs" wrote:

Quote:

> All sorted by kind person in vista.security group
>
> Try this:
>
> Ã˜ Control Panel
>
> Ã˜ Administrative tools
>
> Ã˜ Services
>
> Ã˜ then locate WD and double click it
>
> Ã˜ select "startup type" as automatic
>
> Ã˜ then click "log on" tab
>
> Ã˜ click "Local System account" and check the only check box available.
>
> Ã˜ Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to
> start
>
> Ã˜ Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start"
>
> "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs"
> > <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >

Quote:

> >>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove
> >>programs
> >>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list!

> >
> > It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista.
> >
> > You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like.
> >
> > Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware
> > protection.
> >
> > DDW
> > --
> > Reply via this group
> > No email please

>
>

03-24-2009

I'm not expert on PCs but I now wonder if my McAfee setting somehow turned
"Defender" off, when I made the changes below one did involve turning it
from Manual to Automatic.

My new PC came with a basic McAfee anti virus, I upgraded it to my McAfee
subscription service. Maybe this changed Defender settings to manual? Anyway
is working fine now!

"muffet" <Muffet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1D6EF67E-5484-44F7-BEC0-DA0212E60182@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I had trouble with W/Defender keep turning off:
> I run Vista Premium with Windows 2003 & Norton Internet Security.
>
> My Defender worked fine until after the Feb updates, not sure what
> happened ?
>
> I Followed the Paul Wogstad /Joe Blogs fix and since have had no more
> trouble.
>
> Hope this information helps.
>
> muffet
>
>
> "Joe Bloggs" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> All sorted by kind person in vista.security group
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Ã˜ Control Panel
>>
>> Ã˜ Administrative tools
>>
>> Ã˜ Services
>>
>> Ã˜ then locate WD and double click it
>>
>> Ã˜ select "startup type" as automatic
>>
>> Ã˜ then click "log on" tab
>>
>> Ã˜ click "Local System account" and check the only check box available.
>>
>> Ã˜ Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to
>> start
>>
>> Ã˜ Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start"
>>
>> "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs"
>> > <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove
>> >>programs
>> >>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program
>> >>list!
>> >
>> > It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista.
>> >
>> > You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like.
>> >
>> > Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware
>> > protection.
>> >
>> > DDW
>> > --
>> > Reply via this group
>> > No email please

>>
>>

03-26-2009

"Joe Bloggs" <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:IbidnSO7OZsA-lrUnZ2dnUVZ8syWnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

> All sorted by kind person in vista.security group
>
> Try this:
>
> Ø Control Panel
>
> Ø Administrative tools
>
> Ø Services
>
> Ø then locate WD and double click it
>
> Ø select "startup type" as automatic
>
> Ø then click "log on" tab
>
> Ø click "Local System account" and check the only check box available.
>
> Ø Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to
> start
>
> Ø Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start"
>
> "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs"
>> <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove
>>>programs
>>>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list!

>>
>> It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista.
>>
>> You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like.
>>
>> Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware
>> protection.
>>
>> DDW
>> --
>> Reply via this group
>> No email please

>

worked for me...thanx.

an update to norton antivirus 2009 in last few weeks turned off defender as
it was on all the time prior.

but i would sure like to know exactly what checking "the only check box
available" which is "ALLOW SERVICES TO INTERACT WITH DESKTOP" actually does.

anyone know?

thanx

03-22-2009	#1 (permalink)
Joe Bloggs n/a posts	Windows Defender rarely working I have a new Dell Studio Desktop 540 using Vista SP1. Very early on I started getting "Windows defender" error on screen "Application failed to initialize: error 0x800106ba. I was getting it on each startup until isolating via MS Config. The "Windows Defender" program does not appear in control panel. I went to "Windows update" page, as I arrived there it said on important update was waiting, by chance it was a windows defender update, I installed it and it worked and I was able to launch windows defender. As I had altered the start-up in MSCONFIG I restored it to normal start-up and machine started fine without any error. However, when I select "Windows defender" from start-up menu I am getting the same 0x800106ba error code. The program does still not appear in control panel. HOWEVER! It now runs ok sometimes but not others! When it doesn't run I'm getting 0x800106ba error. Dell suggested I revert PC back to as built status, but as I have just spent 2 days putting all my programs on and the fact that 2 hours ago I proved Windows Defender does sometimes work perfectly well I'm not doing that. Anyone got any ideas? Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove programs and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list! Thanks
My System Specs

03-22-2009	#2 (permalink)
DDW n/a posts	Re: Windows Defender rarely working On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs" <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove >programs >and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list! It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista. You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like. Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware protection. DDW -- Reply via this group No email please
My System Specs

03-23-2009	#3 (permalink)
muffet n/a posts	Re: Windows Defender rarely working I had trouble with W/Defender keep turning off: I run Vista Premium with Windows 2003 & Norton Internet Security. My Defender worked fine until after the Feb updates, not sure what happened ? I Followed the Paul Wogstad /Joe Blogs fix and since have had no more trouble. Hope this information helps. muffet "Joe Bloggs" wrote: Quote: > All sorted by kind person in vista.security group > > Try this: > > Ã˜ Control Panel > > Ã˜ Administrative tools > > Ã˜ Services > > Ã˜ then locate WD and double click it > > Ã˜ select "startup type" as automatic > > Ã˜ then click "log on" tab > > Ã˜ click "Local System account" and check the only check box available. > > Ã˜ Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to > start > > Ã˜ Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start" > > "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx Quote: > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs" > > <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Quote: > >>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove > >>programs > >>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list! > > > > It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista. > > > > You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like. > > > > Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware > > protection. > > > > DDW > > -- > > Reply via this group > > No email please > >
My System Specs

03-24-2009	#4 (permalink)
Joe Bloggs n/a posts	Re: Windows Defender rarely working I'm not expert on PCs but I now wonder if my McAfee setting somehow turned "Defender" off, when I made the changes below one did involve turning it from Manual to Automatic. My new PC came with a basic McAfee anti virus, I upgraded it to my McAfee subscription service. Maybe this changed Defender settings to manual? Anyway is working fine now! "muffet" <Muffet@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1D6EF67E-5484-44F7-BEC0-DA0212E60182@xxxxxx Quote: >I had trouble with W/Defender keep turning off: > I run Vista Premium with Windows 2003 & Norton Internet Security. > > My Defender worked fine until after the Feb updates, not sure what > happened ? > > I Followed the Paul Wogstad /Joe Blogs fix and since have had no more > trouble. > > Hope this information helps. > > muffet > > > "Joe Bloggs" wrote: > Quote: >> All sorted by kind person in vista.security group >> >> Try this: >> >> Ã˜ Control Panel >> >> Ã˜ Administrative tools >> >> Ã˜ Services >> >> Ã˜ then locate WD and double click it >> >> Ã˜ select "startup type" as automatic >> >> Ã˜ then click "log on" tab >> >> Ã˜ click "Local System account" and check the only check box available. >> >> Ã˜ Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to >> start >> >> Ã˜ Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start" >> >> "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx Quote: >> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs" >> > <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove >> >>programs >> >>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program >> >>list! >> > >> > It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista. >> > >> > You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like. >> > >> > Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware >> > protection. >> > >> > DDW >> > -- >> > Reply via this group >> > No email please >> >>
My System Specs

03-26-2009	#5 (permalink)
Joe Schmoe n/a posts	Re: Windows Defender rarely working "Joe Bloggs" <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:IbidnSO7OZsA-lrUnZ2dnUVZ8syWnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > All sorted by kind person in vista.security group > > Try this: > > Ø Control Panel > > Ø Administrative tools > > Ø Services > > Ø then locate WD and double click it > > Ø select "startup type" as automatic > > Ø then click "log on" tab > > Ø click "Local System account" and check the only check box available. > > Ø Click the "recovery" tab and make sure WD tries at least two times to > start > > Ø Now, click the "General" Tab and click "start" > > "DDW" <dd.wright@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ilods4h922bs50vggdd1or4r03g4l4tq5h@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:36:39 -0000, "Joe Bloggs" >> <pwormald@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >>>Next time it does run ok I thinking of uninstalling via add / remove >>>programs >>>and re-installing. Can't do it now as its not shown in the program list! >> >> It won't EVER show there. It's part of Vista. >> >> You can go to Admin Tools/Services and disable it if you like. >> >> Mine is now disabled because my Avira AV 9 has built-in malware >> protection. >> >> DDW >> -- >> Reply via this group >> No email please > worked for me...thanx. an update to norton antivirus 2009 in last few weeks turned off defender as it was on all the time prior. but i would sure like to know exactly what checking "the only check box available" which is "ALLOW SERVICES TO INTERACT WITH DESKTOP" actually does. anyone know? thanx
My System Specs

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