When you do incremental backups, what happens when you delete a file because you don't want it on your machine and then you do a back up. I assume that file is still within the backupfile and will be reinstalled when and if you do a restore.



Is there a simple way of removing files from your backup data so they will not restore.
I am particularily thinking of a lot of shareware, 30 trial stuff that I would want reinstalled.

Thanks.

"rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote:

>When you do incremental backups, what happens when you
>delete a file because you don't want it on your machine and
>then you do a back up. I assume that file is still within the
>backupfile and will be reinstalled when and if you do a restore.

Never assume. If you use that backup to restore, the file will not be
reinstalled.

Thanks for the info, but just to make sure I understand, If a file is saved
during a backup and then later taken off the computer and then an "update"
of the back up is made, the system will go into that data base and delete
any files that have been deleted since the last backup.
rq




"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

>>When you do incremental backups, what happens when you
>>delete a file because you don't want it on your machine and
>>then you do a back up. I assume that file is still within the
>>backupfile and will be reinstalled when and if you do a restore.

>
> Never assume. If you use that backup to restore, the file will not be
> reinstalled.

"rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote:

>Thanks for the info, but just to make sure I understand, If a file is saved
>during a backup and then later taken off the computer and then an "update"
>of the back up is made, the system will go into that data base and delete
>any files that have been deleted since the last backup.
>rq

Just understand that your deleted file will not be reinstalled.
Period.

>"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:i0063516asbcsdf43i95s87t2t3o7dlutm@xxxxxx

>> "rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

>>>When you do incremental backups, what happens when you
>>>delete a file because you don't want it on your machine and
>>>then you do a back up. I assume that file is still within the
>>>backupfile and will be reinstalled when and if you do a restore.

>>
>> Never assume. If you use that backup to restore, the file will not be
>> reinstalled.

"rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the info, but just to make sure I understand, If a file is
> saved during a backup and then later taken off the computer and then an
> "update" of the back up is made, the system will go into that data base
> and delete any files that have been deleted since the last backup.
> rq
>
>

No. Think of it this way: a collection of bottles on your mantle represents
your files on your computer. You take a picture of them. That picture is
your backup file. Then you decide to throw away a few bottles from the
mantle. If you could "restore" the bottles on the mantle with the backup
picture then all the original bottles would be back.
The backup utilities will not delete files from the backup file archive that
have been deleted from your computer - that would defeat the purpose of
backup software.
But the better applications will allow you to selectively restore individual
files rather than the entire "photograph" - if that helps.

"TVeblen" <killtherobots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e3JqdH96JHA.728@xxxxxx

>> Thanks for the info, but just to make sure I understand, If a file is
>> saved during a backup and then later taken off the computer and then an
>> "update" of the back up is made, the system will go into that data base
>> and delete any files that have been deleted since the last backup.
>> rq
>>
>>

> No. Think of it this way: a collection of bottles on your mantle
> represents your files on your computer. You take a picture of them. That
> picture is your backup file. Then you decide to throw away a few bottles
> from the mantle. If you could "restore" the bottles on the mantle with the
> backup picture then all the original bottles would be back.
> The backup utilities will not delete files from the backup file archive
> that have been deleted from your computer - that would defeat the purpose
> of backup software.
> But the better applications will allow you to selectively restore
> individual files rather than the entire "photograph" - if that helps.
>

Except that if an incremental backup (another picture taken after the
bottles were thrown away) was made after the file(s) were deleted, then one
would expect that those files would not be restored.
MLD

"TVeblen" <killtherobots@xxxxxx> wrote:

>
>"rq" <qurandc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:e3JqdH96JHA.728@xxxxxx

>> Thanks for the info, but just to make sure I understand, If a file is
>> saved during a backup and then later taken off the computer and then an
>> "update" of the back up is made, the system will go into that data base
>> and delete any files that have been deleted since the last backup.
>> rq
>>
>>

>No. Think of it this way: a collection of bottles on your mantle represents
>your files on your computer. You take a picture of them. That picture is
>your backup file. Then you decide to throw away a few bottles from the
>mantle. If you could "restore" the bottles on the mantle with the backup
>picture then all the original bottles would be back.
>The backup utilities will not delete files from the backup file archive that
>have been deleted from your computer - that would defeat the purpose of
>backup software.
>But the better applications will allow you to selectively restore individual
>files rather than the entire "photograph" - if that helps.

Cute, but it doesn't fully handle the question of making a complete
restore from a backup that has had several incremental backups made
after the original was made.

If one makes a complete restore of the entire package, no files that
were deleted between the making of the original backup and the making
of the most recent incremental will be restored.

That's just the way it is. I couldn't care less how it's done, just
that it works.

rq wrote:

> When you do incremental backups, what happens when you delete a file
> because you don't want it on your machine and then you do a back up. I
> assume that file is still within the backupfile and will be reinstalled
> when and if you do a restore.
>
> Is there a simple way of removing files from your backup data so they
> will not restore.
> I am particularily thinking of a lot of shareware, 30 trial stuff that I
> would want reinstalled.
>
> Thanks.

They won't restore by doing a complete restore, but if you are uneasy
about it just delete the backup set and make a new one.

Dave

--->

> rq wrote:

>> When you do incremental backups, what happens when you delete a file
>> because you don't want it on your machine and then you do a back up.
>> I assume that file is still within the backupfile and will be
>> reinstalled when and if you do a restore.
>>
>> Is there a simple way of removing files from your backup data so they
>> will not restore.
>> I am particularily thinking of a lot of shareware, 30 trial stuff that
>> I would want reinstalled.
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> They won't restore by doing a complete restore, but if you are uneasy
> about it just delete the backup set and make a new one.
>
> Dave

In reality, I'd do the opposite: Make a new backup and THEN delete the
old one. I'm sure that's what you meant.

Questor

Questor wrote:

> --->

>> rq wrote:

>>> When you do incremental backups, what happens when you delete a file
>>> because you don't want it on your machine and then you do a back up.
>>> I assume that file is still within the backupfile and will be
>>> reinstalled when and if you do a restore.
>>>
>>> Is there a simple way of removing files from your backup data so they
>>> will not restore.
>>> I am particularily thinking of a lot of shareware, 30 trial stuff
>>> that I would want reinstalled.
>>>
>>> Thanks.

>>
>> They won't restore by doing a complete restore, but if you are uneasy
>> about it just delete the backup set and make a new one.
>>
>> Dave

>
> In reality, I'd do the opposite: Make a new backup and THEN delete the
> old one. I'm sure that's what you meant.
>
> Questor

Yes, of course. My bad.

Dave