Vista - Please FIX WMP11 Library Search/Manage performance

This is really a WPM11 item, but in Vista there is no option to roll-back to
the WMP10 version.

Please reinstate the "Add to Library by searching computer" function
available in previous versions.

The "monitor Folders" function does not provide a manageable alternative for
large libraries. It forces unnecessary searches through the library each time
WMP is opened. It also forces an automatic multi-hour search merely by
looking at the list of monitored folders and pressing "OK".

I have more than 50,000 tracks and I know when I'm adding an album or
deleting one and don't need to waste cpu cycles for no useful function.

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CVP,

Did you check under Options, Library, Monitor Folders? This is, or at least
to me, sounds like much the same thing. Just to check I copied some older
MP3's off of a CD, and dropped them in the monitored folders, and they were
automatically added to my Library.


Bill F.

"cvp" <cvp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10F7EC5F-C354-412B-8418-407F53E859A0@microsoft.com...
> This is really a WPM11 item, but in Vista there is no option to roll-back
> to
> the WMP10 version.
>
> Please reinstate the "Add to Library by searching computer" function
> available in previous versions.
>
> The "monitor Folders" function does not provide a manageable alternative
> for
> large libraries. It forces unnecessary searches through the library each
> time
> WMP is opened. It also forces an automatic multi-hour search merely by
> looking at the list of monitored folders and pressing "OK".
>
> I have more than 50,000 tracks and I know when I'm adding an album or
> deleting one and don't need to waste cpu cycles for no useful function.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
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> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ce_maintenance

Sure, Bill, I've tried. That bit is just like the monitor feature of WMP10.

It differs from "Add to library" in that it requires an active entry in the
monitored folders for the library (in my case: 60K files 1TB +). That's what
gives rise to all the extra searching/cpu activity. That isn't free for 60K
files - all for no purpose than to verify that I haven't
changed/added/deleted any tracks (Events that I perform carefully and
knowingly).

With an "Add to library" I wouldn't need to have the active monitoring set
for the library.

It's all there in WMP10 and doesn't detract from the use ofmonitoring for
those who want to use it.

"Bill Frisbee" wrote:

> CVP,
>
> Did you check under Options, Library, Monitor Folders? This is, or at least
> to me, sounds like much the same thing. Just to check I copied some older
> MP3's off of a CD, and dropped them in the monitored folders, and they were
> automatically added to my Library.
>
>
> Bill F.
>
> "cvp" <cvp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:10F7EC5F-C354-412B-8418-407F53E859A0@microsoft.com...
> > This is really a WPM11 item, but in Vista there is no option to roll-back
> > to
> > the WMP10 version.
> >
> > Please reinstate the "Add to Library by searching computer" function
> > available in previous versions.
> >
> > The "monitor Folders" function does not provide a manageable alternative
> > for
> > large libraries. It forces unnecessary searches through the library each
> > time
> > WMP is opened. It also forces an automatic multi-hour search merely by
> > looking at the list of monitored folders and pressing "OK".
> >
> > I have more than 50,000 tracks and I know when I'm adding an album or
> > deleting one and don't need to waste cpu cycles for no useful function.
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ce_maintenance
>
>

CVP,

Did you read the help in WMP 11?

a.. Monitoring folders. When you start the Player for the first time, it
automatically searches certain default folders on your computer for music,
video, and picture files, and then adds those files to your library. If you
ever add or remove files from these folders, the Player automatically
updates the library accordingly. You can change which folders the Player
monitors if you store some of your digital media files in a location that is
not already monitored automatically.

a.. Add media files that you play. When you play a file on your computer or
on the Internet, the Player automatically adds the file to your library if
it isn't already in your library. The Player does not automatically add a
file that you play from removable storage media, a removable storage device,
or on a shared network folder. For example, if you play a file that is
stored on a CompactFlash card, a data CD, or in a shared folder on another
computer on your network, the Player will not automatically add the file to
your library


"cvp" <cvp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8DD9F493-410A-49FB-8B9F-9E61D2BE8B64@microsoft.com...
> Sure, Bill, I've tried. That bit is just like the monitor feature of
> WMP10.
>
> It differs from "Add to library" in that it requires an active entry in
> the
> monitored folders for the library (in my case: 60K files 1TB +). That's
> what
> gives rise to all the extra searching/cpu activity. That isn't free for
> 60K
> files - all for no purpose than to verify that I haven't
> changed/added/deleted any tracks (Events that I perform carefully and
> knowingly).
>
> With an "Add to library" I wouldn't need to have the active monitoring set
> for the library.
>
> It's all there in WMP10 and doesn't detract from the use ofmonitoring for
> those who want to use it.
>
> "Bill Frisbee" wrote:
>
>> CVP,
>>
>> Did you check under Options, Library, Monitor Folders? This is, or at
>> least
>> to me, sounds like much the same thing. Just to check I copied some older
>> MP3's off of a CD, and dropped them in the monitored folders, and they
>> were
>> automatically added to my Library.
>>
>>
>> Bill F.
>>
>> "cvp" <cvp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:10F7EC5F-C354-412B-8418-407F53E859A0@microsoft.com...
>> > This is really a WPM11 item, but in Vista there is no option to
>> > roll-back
>> > to
>> > the WMP10 version.
>> >
>> > Please reinstate the "Add to Library by searching computer" function
>> > available in previous versions.
>> >
>> > The "monitor Folders" function does not provide a manageable
>> > alternative
>> > for
>> > large libraries. It forces unnecessary searches through the library
>> > each
>> > time
>> > WMP is opened. It also forces an automatic multi-hour search merely by
>> > looking at the list of monitored folders and pressing "OK".
>> >
>> > I have more than 50,000 tracks and I know when I'm adding an album or
>> > deleting one and don't need to waste cpu cycles for no useful function.
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ce_maintenance
>>
>>

"Bill Frisbee" wrote:

> CVP,
>
> Did you read the help in WMP 11?

You bet! And scoured the web too. I even installed WMP11 on XP to ensure
that it too exhibited the same performance problems.
>
> a.. Monitoring folders. When you start the Player for the first time, it
> automatically searches certain default folders on your computer for music,
> video, and picture files, and then adds those files to your library. If you
> ever add or remove files from these folders, the Player automatically
> updates the library accordingly.

Sure. I've set all those to Ignore. The last thing I want is random "sample"
music or any other library versions in any library. Im really asking to be
able to turn off monitoring of the folder the library is in, but still be
able to add tracks to the library and the library folder - just like WMP10.

> You can change which folders the Player
> monitors if you store some of your digital media files in a location that is
> not already monitored automatically.

Right! That's the only way to get WMP11 to look at my library at all. That's
where the problem above starts. No matter which folder or folders you put 60K
tracks in, monitoring that folder with all it brings in time delays and
performance hits is the only way to add tracks to the library. Unlike WMP10
which allows monitoring on all folders (except the RIP folder) to be turned
off.


> a.. Add media files that you play. When you play a file...

One of the first things I turn off. Wish I could also turn off the RIP
folder too, but at least I know how to deal with any unwanted tracks gained
there (prior to editing multi-CD albums etc.)

If monitor scanning of the library was an instantaneous function, none of
this wouldn't be a big deal.

If manual management (without the performance hit) hadn't been supported in
every version of WMP I can remember prior to WMP11, I wouldn't know I'd lost
the function!

Interestingly the delete from library function is still available. It's only
the add function that's been removed.