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10-18-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? ---> Quote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> > wrote: > Quote: >> "whs" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message >> news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... Quote: >>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your >>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. >> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside >> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. >> >> Tom Lake > Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it > in? This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a 10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard even if you opened it up. I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. Questor |
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10-19-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Questor@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: >---> Quote: >> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> >> wrote: >> Quote: >>> "whs" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message >>> news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... >>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your >>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. >>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. Some >>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside >>> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. >>> >>> Tom Lake >> Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it >> in? >I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook motherboard. > >This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that >may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked >into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a >10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). > >I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard >even if you opened it up. > >I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. > >Questor into? It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this before. I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. |
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10-19-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? <rmo555@newsgroup> wrote in message news:77kpd59vc89l3jlgsndmu7ugkje5tpui4o@newsgroup Quote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Questor@newsgroup> > wrote: > Quote: >>---> Quote: >>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "whs" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message >>>> news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... >>>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your >>>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. >>>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. Some >>>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside >>>> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. >>>> >>>> Tom Lake >>> >>> Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it >>> in? >>I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook motherboard. >> >>This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that >>may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked >>into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a >>10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). >> >>I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard >>even if you opened it up. >> >>I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. >> >>Questor > Thanks. I understand USB - but what kind of port does a COM cable plug > into? It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this > before. I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace > with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. cable(s) from the printer(s) to a USB port on your notebook. There are drivers that allow Windows to see them as serial ports, thus allowing you printers to work. We had to do a similar conversion on our UPS station at work with a serial label printer (until UPS finally sent us a USB label printer). SC Tom |
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10-19-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:00:02 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: > ><rmo555@newsgroup> wrote in message >news:77kpd59vc89l3jlgsndmu7ugkje5tpui4o@newsgroup Quote: >> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Questor@newsgroup> >> wrote: >> Quote: >>>---> >>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "whs" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... >>>>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your >>>>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. >>>>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. Some >>>>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside >>>>> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. >>>>> >>>>> Tom Lake >>>> >>>> Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it >>>> in? >>> >>>I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook motherboard. >>> >>>This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that >>>may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked >>>into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a >>>10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). >>> >>>I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard >>>even if you opened it up. >>> >>>I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. >>> >>>Questor >> Thanks. I understand USB - but what kind of port does a COM cable plug >> into? It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this >> before. I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace >> with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. >A COM cable is a serial cable. The converter allows you to plug your serial >cable(s) from the printer(s) to a USB port on your notebook. There are >drivers that allow Windows to see them as serial ports, thus allowing you >printers to work. We had to do a similar conversion on our UPS station at >work with a serial label printer (until UPS finally sent us a USB label >printer). > >SC Tom Is a COM port also referred to as RS232? I looked these adapters up on Google and I want to be sure I have the right item. |
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10-19-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? ---> Quote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:00:02 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc@newsgroup> wrote: > Quote: >> <rmo555@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:77kpd59vc89l3jlgsndmu7ugkje5tpui4o@newsgroup Quote: >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Questor@newsgroup> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ---> >>>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "whs" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... >>>>>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your >>>>>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. >>>>>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. Some >>>>>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside >>>>>> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Lake >>>>> Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it >>>>> in? >>>> I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook motherboard. >>>> >>>> This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that >>>> may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked >>>> into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a >>>> 10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). >>>> >>>> I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard >>>> even if you opened it up. >>>> >>>> I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. >>>> >>>> Questor >>> Thanks. I understand USB - but what kind of port does a COM cable plug >>> into? It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this >>> before. I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace >>> with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. >> cable(s) from the printer(s) to a USB port on your notebook. There are >> drivers that allow Windows to see them as serial ports, thus allowing you >> printers to work. We had to do a similar conversion on our UPS station at >> work with a serial label printer (until UPS finally sent us a USB label >> printer). >> >> SC Tom > > Is a COM port also referred to as RS232? I looked these adapters up on > Google and I want to be sure I have the right item. Questor |
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10-20-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? On Oct 19, 8:53*pm, Questor <Ques...@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: > ---> > > > > > Quote: > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:00:02 -0400, "SC Tom" <s...@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >> <rmo...@newsgroup> wrote in message > >>news:77kpd59vc89l3jlgsndmu7ugkje5tpui4o@newsgroup > >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Ques...@newsgroup> > >>> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >>>> ---> > >>>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12...@newsgroup> > >>>>> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >>>>>> "whs" <gu...@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... > >>>>>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at your > >>>>>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. > >>>>>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. *Some > >>>>>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside > >>>>>> of the case. *You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. Quote: Quote: > >>>>>> Tom Lake > >>>>> Thanks. *So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plugit > >>>>> in? > >>>> I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook motherboard. Quote: Quote: > >>>> This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header that > >>>> may (or may not) be there. *I think Tom was thinking desktop. *Ipeeked > >>>> into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. *It was a > >>>> 10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). Quote: Quote: > >>>> I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard > >>>> even if you opened it up. Quote: Quote: > >>>> I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. Quote: Quote: > >>>> Questor > >>> Thanks. *I understand USB - but what kind of port does a COM cable plug > >>> into? *It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this > >>> before. *I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace > >>> with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. > >> A COM cable is a serial cable. The converter allows you to plug your serial > >> cable(s) from the printer(s) to a USB port on your notebook. There are > >> drivers that allow Windows to see them as serial ports, thus allowing you > >> printers to work. We had to do a similar conversion on our UPS stationat > >> work with a serial label printer (until UPS finally sent us a USB label > >> printer). Quote: Quote: > >> SC Tom Quote: > > Is a COM port also referred to as RS232? *I looked these adapters up on > > Google and I want to be sure I have the right item. > Yes > > Questor- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It's a wired router, but if you have a wireless router, it can be uplinked from there. A benefit to this type of arrangement is that you can leave your printer(s) in one place. They also have the DSL-704up, which has a USB port instead of rs-232. --Jim |
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10-25-2009
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| | Re: Where's my serial port? This works when the printer drivers are compatable. Some are not, so with label printers, is a maybe it will work. The same thing can be true of USB to serial converters. Not all are equal, and not all printer drivers will work properly with a USB to serial converter. Actually, serial ports have been going downhill for years. As far back as 1989, laptops started dropping various handshaking and control options. We got into this when we tried to convert "special purpose" military programs to run on a full mil spec laptop, and found that the Mfr had removed support for various obscure serial handshaking and port control methods. Unfortunately, we needed them to control the serial port on a "Black Box" used on a very popular fighter. (Pins on the serial chip were not connected, (no place to connect them to, and the needed BIOS support for them was missing.) "Another alternative is using a router " "Spike9458" <bmcsretired@newsgroup> wrote in message news:74f0971c-fa62-4705-bc40-4b9af439a68b@newsgroup On Oct 19, 8:53 pm, Questor <Ques...@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: > ---> > > > > > Quote: > > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:00:02 -0400, "SC Tom" <s...@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >> <rmo...@newsgroup> wrote in message > >>news:77kpd59vc89l3jlgsndmu7ugkje5tpui4o@newsgroup > >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:13:50 -0400, Questor <Ques...@newsgroup> > >>> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >>>> ---> > >>>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:50:45 -0400, "Tom Lake" > >>>>> <toml_12...@newsgroup> > >>>>> wrote: Quote: Quote: > >>>>>> "whs" <gu...@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:e1c81a14333fc59be0b4e8b1889612f9@newsgroup-gateway.com... > >>>>>>> Here is an explanation and a picture of a serial port. Look at > >>>>>>> your > >>>>>>> machine whether you have one of those. Usually they are present. > >>>>>> Very few new machines come with a serial port these days. Some > >>>>>> have a header on the motherboard but no cable to the outside > >>>>>> of the case. You have to buy a header-to-DB-9 cable. Quote: Quote: > >>>>>> Tom Lake > >>>>> Thanks. So if I buy this cable, where, on my notebook, do I plug it > >>>>> in? > >>>> I don't think you really want the answer: on the notebook > >>>> motherboard. Quote: Quote: > >>>> This would mean you have to open the case and search for a header > >>>> that > >>>> may (or may not) be there. I think Tom was thinking desktop. I peeked > >>>> into my desktop and did indeed find a header marked COM1. It was a > >>>> 10-pin DIP header (two rows of 5 pins). Quote: Quote: > >>>> I doubt very much if you would find one on your notebook motherboard > >>>> even if you opened it up. Quote: Quote: > >>>> I'd still go with a USB to COM cable. Quote: Quote: > >>>> Questor > >>> Thanks. I understand USB - but what kind of port does a COM cable plug > >>> into? It sounds like a stupid question but I never ran into this > >>> before. I have these two label makers that I don't want to replace > >>> with newer ones just because of the Serial port they require. > >> A COM cable is a serial cable. The converter allows you to plug your > >> serial > >> cable(s) from the printer(s) to a USB port on your notebook. There are > >> drivers that allow Windows to see them as serial ports, thus allowing > >> you > >> printers to work. We had to do a similar conversion on our UPS station > >> at > >> work with a serial label printer (until UPS finally sent us a USB label > >> printer). Quote: Quote: > >> SC Tom Quote: > > Is a COM port also referred to as RS232? I looked these adapters up on > > Google and I want to be sure I have the right item. > Yes > > Questor- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It's a wired router, but if you have a wireless router, it can be uplinked from there. A benefit to this type of arrangement is that you can leave your printer(s) in one place. They also have the DSL-704up, which has a USB port instead of rs-232. --Jim |
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