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Old 12-11-2006   #1 (permalink)
Mark Gillespie


 
 

Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

I have a 1GB Compact Flash card, and a IDE Internal CF adapter, however I
can't get this running with ReadyBoost. Should I be able to?

Thanks

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Old 12-11-2006   #2 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

Probably not.

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"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsp.tkdp7dduj2q9yy@vistadesktop64.draytek...
>I have a 1GB Compact Flash card, and a IDE Internal CF adapter, however I
>can't get this running with ReadyBoost. Should I be able to?



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Old 12-11-2006   #3 (permalink)
Mark Gillespie


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:36:47 -0000, Richard G. Harper <rgharper@email.com>
wrote:

> Probably not.
>


But I can use the same CF flash card via USB? Shurely this is wrong? IDE
is lower latency..

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Old 12-11-2006   #4 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

I doubt it's "wrong" - why would you want to use an IDE device for
ReadyBoost when in theory it would/could be used as a direct IDE device? I
suspect this is simply a teeny-tiny niche product that no one anticipated
and therefore did not support.

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"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:36:47 -0000, Richard G. Harper <rgharper@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Probably not.
>>

>
> But I can use the same CF flash card via USB? Shurely this is wrong? IDE
> is lower latency..
>
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Old 12-12-2006   #5 (permalink)
Mark Gillespie


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:04:16 -0000, Richard G. Harper <rgharper@email.com>
wrote:

> I doubt it's "wrong" - why would you want to use an IDE device for
> ReadyBoost when in theory it would/could be used as a direct IDE
> device? I
> suspect this is simply a teeny-tiny niche product that no one anticipated
> and therefore did not support.
>


I want a permenent Readyboost, internal in my PC, not an Ugly USB Pen
Drive hanging out the front, that's not a very niche chain of thought....


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Old 12-12-2006   #6 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

Sorry, but apparently using IDE to provide it is. Good luck in your search.

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"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsp.tkfruqgyj2q9yy@vistadesktop64.draytek...
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:04:16 -0000, Richard G. Harper <rgharper@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I doubt it's "wrong" - why would you want to use an IDE device for
>> ReadyBoost when in theory it would/could be used as a direct IDE device?
>> I
>> suspect this is simply a teeny-tiny niche product that no one anticipated
>> and therefore did not support.
>>

>
> I want a permenent Readyboost, internal in my PC, not an Ugly USB Pen
> Drive hanging out the front, that's not a very niche chain of thought....
>
>
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Old 12-12-2006   #7 (permalink)
Tom Lake


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

> I want a permenent Readyboost, internal in my PC, not an Ugly USB Pen
> Drive hanging out the front, that's not a very niche chain of thought....



Look at an IDE card that provides USB ports. I have one that has a
USB socket on the inside as well as four externally available ones.
You could keep a pen drive plugged in there inside your computer.

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Old 12-12-2006   #8 (permalink)
Robert Moir


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

Mark Gillespie wrote:
> I have a 1GB Compact Flash card, and a IDE Internal CF adapter,
> however I can't get this running with ReadyBoost. Should I be able
> to?


No, and you don't really need or want to.

Think about what readyboost actually does:
(http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx)

It creates a 'cache' of your virtual memory onto a usb key because the
access time is faster than that of a typical hard drive where you'd normally
find virtual memory.

If you have a device that connects natively via an IDE interface but works
at fast flash memory speed, caching virtual memory file from your hard disk
offers you nothing that cannot be served at least as well, if not better, by
simply creating the virtual memory swap file onto your flash memory IDE
device.

Rob Moir


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Old 12-16-2006   #9 (permalink)
hdc4@hotmail.com


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

I've been able to use SD flash memory cards for ready bost on my laptop's
internal card reader. I just leave the card in all the time (just make sure
your card is one of the newer ones with a fast read/write time). Much cheaper
than upgrading the ram (but not necessarily as good)

also, leaving a jump-drive sticking out the side of the laptop for this IS a
huge annoyance-

"Robert Moir" wrote:

> Mark Gillespie wrote:
> > I have a 1GB Compact Flash card, and a IDE Internal CF adapter,
> > however I can't get this running with ReadyBoost. Should I be able
> > to?

>
> No, and you don't really need or want to.
>
> Think about what readyboost actually does:
> (http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx)
>
> It creates a 'cache' of your virtual memory onto a usb key because the
> access time is faster than that of a typical hard drive where you'd normally
> find virtual memory.
>
> If you have a device that connects natively via an IDE interface but works
> at fast flash memory speed, caching virtual memory file from your hard disk
> offers you nothing that cannot be served at least as well, if not better, by
> simply creating the virtual memory swap file onto your flash memory IDE
> device.
>
> Rob Moir
>
>
>

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Old 12-21-2006   #10 (permalink)
Matt S.


 
 

Re: Readyboost and IDE CompactFlash

There will be such a device.. When Hybrid HDD's come on to the market(dont
know for sure they have already or not) it will have a certain amount of
flash memory inside the HD that will beable to serve as permanent
readyboost. But, unfortunately it will only be permanent as long as you dont
lose power..

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"Mark Gillespie" <mark.gillespie@gmail.com> wrote in message
newsp.tkfruqgyj2q9yy@vistadesktop64.draytek...
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:04:16 -0000, Richard G. Harper <rgharper@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I doubt it's "wrong" - why would you want to use an IDE device for
>> ReadyBoost when in theory it would/could be used as a direct IDE device?
>> I
>> suspect this is simply a teeny-tiny niche product that no one anticipated
>> and therefore did not support.
>>

>
> I want a permenent Readyboost, internal in my PC, not an Ugly USB Pen
> Drive hanging out the front, that's not a very niche chain of thought....
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------
> http:\\www.rockhangouts.com
> ------------------------------------


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