Vista - Defragment as task, wake computer from sleep.

Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
wake the computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate time
starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute, then
starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon. I have
the timer for the power profile under the main user to sleep after 2 hours,
but this keeps happening. Sleep otherwise works properly.
Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
happening?

Sounds like a question for the Task Scheduler team - have you had this issue
with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run from
sleep?


"Timdog" <trednie@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
> Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> wake the computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> I have the timer for the power profile under the main user to sleep after
> 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleep otherwise works properly.
> Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> happening?

On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
<vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this issue
> with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run fromsleep?
>
> "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
>
> > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user tosleepafter
> > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
> > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> > happening?

I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
--
bc

In a strange way I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem.
Does anyone know if the login screen for vista has it's own power profile?
This might explain it because if I resume from sleep, but don't login, my
computer will power down after a couple minutes. If there is, how do we
change its settings?

I hope someone will figure this out. This is currently the only task I run
waking the computer from sleep. But I do have more I would like to start
running.

Thanks in advance,

Timdog


"bob.cronin@gmail.com" wrote:

> On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
> <vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this issue
> > with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run fromsleep?
> >
> > "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >
> > news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
> >
> > > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> > >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> > > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> > > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> > > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user tosleepafter
> > > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
> > > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> > > happening?
>
> I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
> computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
> not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
> will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
> even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
> regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
> have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
> drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
> up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
> in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
> SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
> --
> bc
>
>

The .Default user is the user when there isn't one. This is NOT the same as
Default user but <Dot>Default. You will find her settings here in the
registry
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT

"Timdog" <Timdog@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:282D3CEB-D551-4E00-A8B0-46B88AAAC516@microsoft.com...
> In a strange way I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem.
> Does anyone know if the login screen for vista has it's own power profile?
> This might explain it because if I resume from sleep, but don't login, my
> computer will power down after a couple minutes. If there is, how do we
> change its settings?
>
> I hope someone will figure this out. This is currently the only task I
> run
> waking the computer from sleep. But I do have more I would like to start
> running.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Timdog
>
>
> "bob.cronin@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>> On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
>> <vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this
>> > issue
>> > with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run
>> > fromsleep?
>> >
>> > "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >
>> > news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled
>> > > task to
>> > >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
>> > > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a
>> > > minute,
>> > > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually
>> > > logon.
>> > > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user
>> > > tosleepafter
>> > > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
>> > > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
>> > > happening?
>>
>> I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
>> computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
>> not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
>> will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
>> even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
>> regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
>> have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
>> drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
>> up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
>> in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
>> SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
>> --
>> bc
>>
>>

you can check the EVENT logs under Task Scheduler to see what is running at that time.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"Timdog" <Timdog@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:282D3CEB-D551-4E00-A8B0-46B88AAAC516@microsoft.com...
In a strange way I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem.
Does anyone know if the login screen for vista has it's own power profile?
This might explain it because if I resume from sleep, but don't login, my
computer will power down after a couple minutes. If there is, how do we
change its settings?

I hope someone will figure this out. This is currently the only task I run
waking the computer from sleep. But I do have more I would like to start
running.

Thanks in advance,

Timdog


"bob.cronin@gmail.com" wrote:

> On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
> <vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this issue
> > with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run fromsleep?
> >
> > "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >
> > news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
> >
> > > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> > >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> > > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> > > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> > > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user tosleepafter
> > > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
> > > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> > > happening?
>
> I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
> computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
> not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
> will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
> even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
> regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
> have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
> drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
> up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
> in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
> SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
> --
> bc
>
>

On Mar 8, 3:49 pm, Timdog <Tim...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> In a strange way I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem.
> Does anyone know if the login screen for vista has it's own power profile?
> This might explain it because if I resume from sleep, but don't login, my
> computer will power down after a couple minutes. If there is, how do we
> change its settings?
>
> I hope someone will figure this out. This is currently the only task I run
> waking the computer from sleep. But I do have more I would like to start
> running.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Timdog
>
> "bob.cro...@gmail.com" wrote:
> > On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
> > <vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this issue
> > > with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run fromsleep?
>
> > > "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> > >news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
>
> > > > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> > > >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> > > > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> > > > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> > > > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user tosleepafter
> > > > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
> > > > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> > > > happening?
>
> > I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
> > computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
> > not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
> > will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
> > even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
> > regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
> > have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
> > drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
> > up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
> > in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
> > SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
> > --
> > bc

Still no progress with MS support, but your idea about default user
suggested it might be interesting to try exporting the PowerCfg
section of the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel registry tree, edit it
to change the path to HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel and then
import it. I've done that now, and whereas HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT did not
formerly have a PowerCfg section in the Control Panel tree, now it
does (and it is a duplicate of whats configured for my primary logon).
It will be interesting to see if this had any effect tomorrow morning
when my imaging task kicks off.
--
bc

On Mar 20, 11:02 am, "bc" <bob.cro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 3:49 pm, Timdog <Tim...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In a strange way I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem.
> > Does anyone know if the login screen for vista has it's own power profile?
> > This might explain it because if I resume from sleep, but don't login, my
> > computer will power down after a couple minutes. If there is, how do we
> > change its settings?
>
> > I hope someone will figure this out. This is currently the only task I run
> > waking the computer from sleep. But I do have more I would like to start
> > running.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> > Timdog
>
> > "bob.cro...@gmail.com" wrote:
> > > On Mar 7, 6:10 pm, "Victoria House [MSFT]"
> > > <vho...@online.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > Sounds like a question for theTask Schedulerteam - have you had this issue
> > > > with any other tasks? Is defrag the only one you're trying to run fromsleep?
>
> > > > "Timdog" <tred...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:21AA04FD-98D0-4A76-A2AF-060FF360561D@microsoft.com...
>
> > > > > Having some trouble with my defragment task. I set up a scheduled task to
> > > > >wakethe computer and run defragment. The computer at the appropriate
> > > > > time starts, but shuts off approximately 2 minutes later for a minute,
> > > > > then starts up again only to keep repeating this until I actually logon.
> > > > > I have the timer for the power profile under the main user tosleepafter
> > > > > 2 hours, but this keeps happening. Sleepotherwise works properly.
> > > > > Does anyone know how to get this to run without this shutdown/startup
> > > > > happening?
>
> > > I have this same issue. Any task I schedule with the "wake up the
> > > computer" option set (as well as "run whether user is logged on or
> > > not" and "run with highest privileges") will wake the PC and the task
> > > will start, but the system falls back to sleep again 60 seconds later,
> > > even as the task is still running (ignoring my preferences in this
> > > regard in my power profile, to not go back to sleep for an hour). I
> > > have had it fall asleep in the middle of a virus scan, imaging my C
> > > drive, defragging my C drive, etc. No matter what the task, it wakes
> > > up, starts running but falls asleep again in 60 seconds, I am involved
> > > in a running conversation with MS support on this (Case:
> > > SRX1030236402). I've made it past level 1, but still no progress.
> > > --
> > > bc
>
> Still no progress with MS support, but your idea about default user
> suggested it might be interesting to try exporting the PowerCfg
> section of the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel registry tree, edit it
> to change the path to HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel and then
> import it. I've done that now, and whereas HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT did not
> formerly have a PowerCfg section in the Control Panel tree, now it
> does (and it is a duplicate of whats configured for my primary logon).
> It will be interesting to see if this had any effect tomorrow morning
> when my imaging task kicks off.
> --
> bc

Ok, MS support tells me:

I can understand the inconvenience that this issue causes. Actually,
this issue can also be reproduced on test machines at our technical
support site. Therefore, we can confirm that the issue is not system
specific but is related to the programs and codes. I have immediately
forwarded this issue to the relevant team for further investigation.
Please be assured that our developers will look into this issue and
find a permanent solution. Your patience and understanding on this is
greatly appreciated.

So there is some hope for a fix eventually.
--
bc