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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >> >>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >> >>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>>> >>>>> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >>>>>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The >>>>>> problem >>>>>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching >>>>>> Clone War >>>>>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various >>>>>> scanning >>>>>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are >>>>>> corrupted. I >>>>>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after >>>>>> starting >>>>>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested >>>>>> operation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m >>>>>> able to >>>>>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few things >>>>>> are not >>>>>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop >>>>>> right click >>>>>> menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a >>>>>> whole bunch >>>>>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have >>>>>> time to >>>>>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please help! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a >>>>> repair install of Vista. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of >>>> Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried >>>> over to Vista. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] >>> >>> >>> If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you >>> will be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current >>> install of Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that >>> it will install Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings and >>> programs. >> >> Jim have you actually done that? I read one report where it didn't work. >> But that was a long time ago, I don't recollect the context, but they had >> problems with the installation after trying it. I have not seen any >> definitive information on this process. >> >> Chad Harris also has mentioned this in a recent post and I have a query >> to him about it. Thanks for following up on the question. > I have actually done this on two computers running Vista Ultimate and it > worked just like a repair install in XP. I did use a full version of Vista > if that makes a difference. I'm glad I didn't read that this didn't work > or I might not have tried it. ![]() Thanks, Jim. -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message news 936035D-9BB9-4BBE-9979-1909078D7788@microsoft.com...> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:ONsmB2KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >> >>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >> >>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>>> >>>>> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >>>>>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The >>>>>> problem >>>>>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching >>>>>> Clone War >>>>>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various >>>>>> scanning >>>>>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are >>>>>> corrupted. I >>>>>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after >>>>>> starting >>>>>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: >>>>>> >>>>>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested >>>>>> operation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m >>>>>> able to >>>>>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few things >>>>>> are not >>>>>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop >>>>>> right click >>>>>> menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a >>>>>> whole bunch >>>>>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have >>>>>> time to >>>>>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please help! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a >>>>> repair install of Vista. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of >>>> Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried >>>> over to Vista. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] >>> >>> >>> If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you >>> will be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current >>> install of Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that >>> it will install Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings and >>> programs. >> >> Jim have you actually done that? I read one report where it didn't work. >> But that was a long time ago, I don't recollect the context, but they had >> problems with the installation after trying it. I have not seen any >> definitive information on this process. >> >> Chad Harris also has mentioned this in a recent post and I have a query >> to him about it. Thanks for following up on the question. > I have actually done this on two computers running Vista Ultimate and it > worked just like a repair install in XP. I did use a full version of Vista > if that makes a difference. I'm glad I didn't read that this didn't work > or I might not have tried it. ![]() Jim what problems where these systems having that prompted you to try this? And the reinstall helped? Had you tried the other recovery mechanisms including system restore and startup repair? Data and applications were retained, is that right? -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message news:%23d61vbLeHHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message > news 936035D-9BB9-4BBE-9979-1909078D7788@microsoft.com...>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message >> news:ONsmB2KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>> >>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >>> >>>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>>>> >>>>>> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >>>>>>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The >>>>>>> problem >>>>>>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching >>>>>>> Clone War >>>>>>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various >>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are >>>>>>> corrupted. I >>>>>>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after >>>>>>> starting >>>>>>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested >>>>>>> operation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m >>>>>>> able to >>>>>>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few >>>>>>> things are not >>>>>>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop >>>>>>> right click >>>>>>> menu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a >>>>>>> whole bunch >>>>>>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have >>>>>>> time to >>>>>>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please help! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a >>>>>> repair install of Vista. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of >>>>> Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried >>>>> over to Vista. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] >>>> >>>> >>>> If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you >>>> will be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current >>>> install of Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that >>>> it will install Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings and >>>> programs. >>> >>> Jim have you actually done that? I read one report where it didn't >>> work. But that was a long time ago, I don't recollect the context, but >>> they had problems with the installation after trying it. I have not >>> seen any definitive information on this process. >>> >>> Chad Harris also has mentioned this in a recent post and I have a query >>> to him about it. Thanks for following up on the question. > >> I have actually done this on two computers running Vista Ultimate and it >> worked just like a repair install in XP. I did use a full version of >> Vista if that makes a difference. I'm glad I didn't read that this didn't >> work or I might not have tried it. ![]() > > > Jim what problems where these systems having that prompted you to try > this? And the reinstall helped? Had you tried the other recovery > mechanisms including system restore and startup repair? Data and > applications were retained, is that right? > > -- > Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] Rock, On one system I could not get Media Center to launch and I could not get the Search Indexer to work. It was a clean install on a box I built for Vista. Other than the Media Center and Search issues, the system was stable and fast and every feature and app worked perfectly. My best guess is that on this system either the chipset drivers or raid drivers ( updated for Vista compatibility about 2 months after initial install) might have caused a less than perfect install. The repair install corrected the two issues I was having. The second system ( not mine ) is a little more interesting. The original complaint was Internet Explorer was hanging and the mail database disappeared from Outlook 2007. Here's what I found - IE asking to be the default browser when no other browsers were present, screen saver failure, poor performance, slow boot, occasional lock up, no system restore points, and ( seperate issue ) a corrupt Business Contact Manager database. The bottom line was a lot of apps were added and some removed and I wasn't ever going to get the full story. So, I uninstalled the apps I thought didn't belong, did a virus and malware scan ( no malware found), did a repair install of Vista. The computer now works perfectly ( fixed the Outlook issue seperately). No data or settings were lost and all apps work. I didn't try any of the other recovery options because they were not appropriate solutions to the issues at hand and in the case of the second computer, system restore was DOA. I did the repair install on the first computer because although the issues were minor, I was unable to find solutions in these newsgroups or online and I really wanted every feature to work even though I don't use media center or search very often. I was really pleased with the results on the second one because it was a "real world' scenario- lots of problems, little history. -- Jim |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Thanks agian Jim and yes, I also did exactly that to get the remaining 4GB. I just finished installing Vista upgrade on top of my exisiting corrupted Vista and it worked great, no problems at all. I was also ran the sfc /scannow after the install and it reports no errors now ... V:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow Beginning system scan. This process will take some time. Beginning verification phase of system scan. Verification 99% complete. Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations. -Sanjay _________________________________________________ "JimR" wrote: > "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:521DD65A-6E32-440E-BD0C-FC7DAE19AC9A@microsoft.com... > > Thanks Jim & Darrell! > > > > I like the reinstall idea and I'm in the process of tyring it. I started > > the > > install from within Windows environment but didn't get the upgrade option > > first time as it needs ~8GB free space on the system drive. I've Vista > > installed on a 20GB partition but only had ~4GB free, so I'm working on > > cleaning up some space but it seems to be a tough order at this point. > > I'll > > post the results once I'm able to create the space. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> Right now a reinstall or upgrade may be the best choice. > >> From the looks of the log file the prblem appears to be corruption in the > >> store which is causing this. > >> Thanks, > >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > >> rights > >> -------------------- > >> |>From: "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> > >> |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > >> |>In-Reply-To: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > >> |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem > >> |>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:43:58 -0700 > >> |>Lines: 35 > >> |>Message-ID: <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> > >> |>MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> |>Content-Type: text/plain; > >> |> format=flowed; > >> |> charset="Utf-8"; > >> |> reply-type=original > >> |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> |>X-Priority: 3 > >> |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >> |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 > >> |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 > >> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED} > >> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > >> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > >> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > >> |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > >> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > >> microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4475 > >> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 > >> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > >> |> > >> |>"mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> |>news:C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com... > >> |>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The > >> |>> problem > >> |>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching > >> Clone > >> |>> War > >> |>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various > >> |>> scanning > >> |>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are > >> corrupted. I > >> |>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after > >> starting > >> |>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: > >> |>> > >> |>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested > >> operation. > >> |>> > >> |>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m > >> able to > >> |>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few things > >> are > >> |>> not > >> |>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop > >> right > >> |>> click > >> |>> menu. > >> |>> > >> |>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a > >> whole > >> |>> bunch > >> |>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have > >> time > >> to > >> |>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. > >> |>> > >> |>> Please help! > >> |> > >> |> > >> |>If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a > >> repair > >> |>install of Vista. > >> |> > >> |>-- > >> |>Jim > >> |> > >> |> > >> > >> > > > What I've done on small partitions is to delete hiberfil.sys, turn off > system restore, and move the page file to another partition. That should be > good for about 4gb. > > -- > Jim > |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Interesting, especially that second system with quite a few problems. Thanks for the details, Jim. -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>>> >>>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote >>>> >>>>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >>>>>>>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The >>>>>>>> problem >>>>>>>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching >>>>>>>> Clone War >>>>>>>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various >>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are >>>>>>>> corrupted. I >>>>>>>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after >>>>>>>> starting >>>>>>>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested >>>>>>>> operation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m >>>>>>>> able to >>>>>>>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few >>>>>>>> things are not >>>>>>>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop >>>>>>>> right click >>>>>>>> menu. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a >>>>>>>> whole bunch >>>>>>>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have >>>>>>>> time to >>>>>>>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be >>>>>>> a repair install of Vista. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of >>>>>> Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried >>>>>> over to Vista. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you >>>>> will be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current >>>>> install of Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that >>>>> it will install Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings >>>>> and programs. >>>> >>>> Jim have you actually done that? I read one report where it didn't >>>> work. But that was a long time ago, I don't recollect the context, but >>>> they had problems with the installation after trying it. I have not >>>> seen any definitive information on this process. >>>> >>>> Chad Harris also has mentioned this in a recent post and I have a query >>>> to him about it. Thanks for following up on the question. >> >>> I have actually done this on two computers running Vista Ultimate and it >>> worked just like a repair install in XP. I did use a full version of >>> Vista if that makes a difference. I'm glad I didn't read that this >>> didn't work or I might not have tried it. ![]() >> >> >> Jim what problems where these systems having that prompted you to try >> this? And the reinstall helped? Had you tried the other recovery >> mechanisms including system restore and startup repair? Data and >> applications were retained, is that right? >> >> -- >> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > > > Rock, > > On one system I could not get Media Center to launch and I could not get > the Search Indexer to work. It was a clean install on a box I built for > Vista. Other than the Media Center and Search issues, the system was > stable and fast and every feature and app worked perfectly. My best guess > is that on this system either the chipset drivers or raid drivers ( > updated for Vista compatibility about 2 months after initial install) > might have caused a less than perfect install. The repair install > corrected the two issues I was having. > > The second system ( not mine ) is a little more interesting. The original > complaint was Internet Explorer was hanging and the mail database > disappeared from Outlook 2007. > Here's what I found - IE asking to be the default browser when no other > browsers were present, screen saver failure, poor performance, slow boot, > occasional lock up, no system restore points, and ( seperate issue ) a > corrupt Business Contact Manager database. The bottom line was a lot of > apps were added and some removed and I wasn't ever going to get the full > story. So, I uninstalled the apps I thought didn't belong, did a virus and > malware scan ( no malware found), did a repair install of Vista. The > computer now works perfectly ( fixed the Outlook issue seperately). No > data or settings were lost and all apps work. > I didn't try any of the other recovery options because they were not > appropriate solutions to the issues at hand and in the case of the second > computer, system restore was DOA. > > I did the repair install on the first computer because although the issues > were minor, I was unable to find solutions in these newsgroups or online > and I really wanted every feature to work even though I don't use media > center or search very often. > > I was really pleased with the results on the second one because it was a > "real world' scenario- lots of problems, little history. |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Hello Rock, While the behavior in Windows Vista is different, the result should be the same. You should be able to upgrade from inside Windows to "fix" or "repair" a system. If you can run setup this should be able to fix some problems particularly problems where files or registry settings need to go back to defaults. Applications, drivers and users accounts should still be present after the upgrade. As always a backup of data is recomended to be safe. Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights -------------------- |>Reply-To: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> |>From: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> |>In-Reply-To: <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem |>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:43:22 -0700 |>Lines: 92 |>MIME-Version: 1.0 |>Content-Type: text/plain; |> format=flowed; |> charset="iso-8859-1"; |> reply-type=original |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit |>X-Priority: 3 |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 |>Message-ID: <uUgk92KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance |>NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-6-82-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 24.6.82.24 |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4526 |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance |> |>Hi Darrell, can you confirm whether one can do a repair install, buy |>reinstalling Vista on top of itself to fix problems as in the in place |>upgrade in XP? |> |>Thanks |> |>-- |>Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] |> |>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote |>> Hello, |>> Right now a reinstall or upgrade may be the best choice. |>> From the looks of the log file the prblem appears to be corruption in the |>> store which is causing this. |>> Thanks, |>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] |>> |>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights |>> -------------------- |>> |>From: "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> |>> |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> |>> |>In-Reply-To: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> |>> |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem |>> |>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:43:58 -0700 |>> |>Lines: 35 |>> |>Message-ID: <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> |>> |>MIME-Version: 1.0 |>> |>Content-Type: text/plain; |>> |> format=flowed; |>> |> charset="Utf-8"; |>> |> reply-type=original |>> |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit |>> |>X-Priority: 3 |>> |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal |>> |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 |>> |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED} |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 |>> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance |>> |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl |>> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl |>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4475 |>> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 |>> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance |>> |> |>> |>"mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message |>> |>news:C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com... |>> |>> Iâ?Tve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The |>> |>> problem |>> |>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching |>> Clone |>> |>> War |>> |>> (1) on my computer. Iâ?Tve since done a few clean scans using various |>> |>> scanning |>> |>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are |>> corrupted. I |>> |>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after |>> starting |>> |>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: |>> |>> |>> |>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation. |>> |>> |>> |>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. Iâ?Tm |>> able to |>> |>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few things |>> are |>> |>> not |>> |>> working e.g. I canâ?Tt open the personalize window from the desktop |>> right |>> |>> click |>> |>> menu. |>> |>> |>> |>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a whole |>> |>> bunch |>> |>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have time |>> to |>> |>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. |>> |>> |>> |>> Please help! |>> |> |>> |> |>> |>If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a |>> repair |>> |>install of Vista. |>> |> |>> |>-- |>> |>Jim |>> |> |>> |> |>> |> |> |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Thanks so much Darrell. -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote > Hello Rock, > While the behavior in Windows Vista is different, the result should be the > same. > You should be able to upgrade from inside Windows to "fix" or "repair" a > system. > If you can run setup this should be able to fix some problems particularly > problems where files or registry settings need to go back to defaults. > Applications, drivers and users accounts should still be present after the > upgrade. As always a backup of data is recomended to be safe. > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights > -------------------- > |>Reply-To: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> > |>From: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> > |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> > <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > |>In-Reply-To: <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem > |>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:43:22 -0700 > |>Lines: 92 > |>MIME-Version: 1.0 > |>Content-Type: text/plain; > |> format=flowed; > |> charset="iso-8859-1"; > |> reply-type=original > |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > |>X-Priority: 3 > |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 > |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 > |>Message-ID: <uUgk92KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-6-82-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 24.6.82.24 > |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl > |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4526 > |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |> > |>Hi Darrell, can you confirm whether one can do a repair install, buy > |>reinstalling Vista on top of itself to fix problems as in the in place > |>upgrade in XP? > |> > |>Thanks > |> > |>-- > |>Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > |> > |>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote > |>> Hello, > |>> Right now a reinstall or upgrade may be the best choice. > |>> From the looks of the log file the prblem appears to be corruption in > the > |>> store which is causing this. > |>> Thanks, > |>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > |>> > |>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights > |>> -------------------- > |>> |>From: "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> > |>> |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > |>> |>In-Reply-To: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > |>> |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem > |>> |>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:43:58 -0700 > |>> |>Lines: 35 > |>> |>Message-ID: <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> > |>> |>MIME-Version: 1.0 > |>> |>Content-Type: text/plain; > |>> |> format=flowed; > |>> |> charset="Utf-8"; > |>> |> reply-type=original > |>> |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > |>> |>X-Priority: 3 > |>> |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > |>> |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 > |>> |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED} > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > |>> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>> |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > |>> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > |>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4475 > |>> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 > |>> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>> |> > |>> |>"mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > |>> |>news:C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com... > |>> |>> Iâ?Tve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. > The > |>> |>> problem > |>> |>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching > |>> Clone > |>> |>> War > |>> |>> (1) on my computer. Iâ?Tve since done a few clean scans using > various > |>> |>> scanning > |>> |>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are > |>> corrupted. I > |>> |>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after > |>> starting > |>> |>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested > operation. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. > Iâ?Tm > |>> able to > |>> |>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few > things > |>> are > |>> |>> not > |>> |>> working e.g. I canâ?Tt open the personalize window from the > desktop > |>> right > |>> |>> click > |>> |>> menu. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a > whole > |>> |>> bunch > |>> |>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have > time > |>> to > |>> |>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Please help! > |>> |> > |>> |> > |>> |>If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be > a > |>> repair > |>> |>install of Vista. |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem are you saying that a vista (home premium) repair install obviates a backup? i have not tried a repair install but i need one - or so i'm told - and going through a dry one, i was prompted to backup my personal files. "JimR" wrote: > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:uBh2RMAeHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote > > > >> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote > >>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The > >>> problem > >>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching Clone > >>> War > >>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various > >>> scanning > >>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are corrupted. > >>> I > >>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after > >>> starting > >>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: > >>> > >>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation. > >>> > >>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m able > >>> to > >>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few things > >>> are not > >>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop right > >>> click > >>> menu. > >>> > >>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a whole > >>> bunch > >>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have time > >>> to > >>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. > >>> > >>> Please help! > >> > >> > >> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a > >> repair install of Vista. > > > > > > I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of > > Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried over > > to Vista. > > > > -- > > Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > > > If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you will > be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current install of > Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that it will install > Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings and programs. > > -- > Jim > |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Jim, how do you know that a repair install is the best choice remedy? i have similar problems. the ms tech tells me, based on the sfc /scannow >> cbs.txt revealing irreparable -and unidentified - corrupted files, that i need to reinstall vista. on my own, i ran sfc /verifyonly; the resulting cbs.txt (35MB of it!!) identified the *only* corrupted file is a windows true font called mingliu.ttc!! elsewhere in this newsgroup, another mvp (from whom i'm awaiting a response) tells me that this cannot possibly be the cause of my inability to activate windows firewall (windows firewall was deactivated for the installation of ms onecare. onecare was uninstalled after 2 weeks), inability to tuirn on the security center, and an ie7 problem with (so it has been suggested) Ajax technology. so, how do you know when a *repair install* is the remedy of choice? as i understood you, a repair install obviates backup of personal files - is this correct? can you delineate the "repair install" procedure - i can't understand what else is possible. (as opposed to what other type of install)? what symptoms and circumstances suggest that *restore* is the remedy of choice? and what other remedies are usually found in the doctor's little black bag? "JimR" wrote: > "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message > news:%23d61vbLeHHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message > > news 936035D-9BB9-4BBE-9979-1909078D7788@microsoft.com...> >> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message > >> news:ONsmB2KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote > >>> > >>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote > >>> > >>>>> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote > >>>>> > >>>>>> "mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote > >>>>>>> I’ve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. The > >>>>>>> problem > >>>>>>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching > >>>>>>> Clone War > >>>>>>> (1) on my computer. I’ve since done a few clean scans using various > >>>>>>> scanning > >>>>>>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are > >>>>>>> corrupted. I > >>>>>>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after > >>>>>>> starting > >>>>>>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested > >>>>>>> operation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. I’m > >>>>>>> able to > >>>>>>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few > >>>>>>> things are not > >>>>>>> working e.g. I can’t open the personalize window from the desktop > >>>>>>> right click > >>>>>>> menu. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a > >>>>>>> whole bunch > >>>>>>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have > >>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please help! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a > >>>>>> repair install of Vista. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm unsure of what you mean here. How do you do a repair install of > >>>>> Vista? An in place upgrade that was available in XP was not carried > >>>>> over to Vista. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If you start the Vista DVD while in Vista, begin the installation,you > >>>> will be offered the ability to "upgrade". An upgrade over a current > >>>> install of Vista has the same effect as a repair install in XP in that > >>>> it will install Vista while keeping intact your documents, settings and > >>>> programs. > >>> > >>> Jim have you actually done that? I read one report where it didn't > >>> work. But that was a long time ago, I don't recollect the context, but > >>> they had problems with the installation after trying it. I have not > >>> seen any definitive information on this process. > >>> > >>> Chad Harris also has mentioned this in a recent post and I have a query > >>> to him about it. Thanks for following up on the question. > > > >> I have actually done this on two computers running Vista Ultimate and it > >> worked just like a repair install in XP. I did use a full version of > >> Vista if that makes a difference. I'm glad I didn't read that this didn't > >> work or I might not have tried it. ![]() > > > > > > Jim what problems where these systems having that prompted you to try > > this? And the reinstall helped? Had you tried the other recovery > > mechanisms including system restore and startup repair? Data and > > applications were retained, is that right? > > > > -- > > Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > > > Rock, > > On one system I could not get Media Center to launch and I could not get the > Search Indexer to work. It was a clean install on a box I built for Vista. > Other than the Media Center and Search issues, the system was stable and > fast and every feature and app worked perfectly. My best guess is that on > this system either the chipset drivers or raid drivers ( updated for Vista > compatibility about 2 months after initial install) might have caused a less > than perfect install. The repair install corrected the two issues I was > having. > > The second system ( not mine ) is a little more interesting. The original > complaint was Internet Explorer was hanging and the mail database > disappeared from Outlook 2007. > Here's what I found - IE asking to be the default browser when no other > browsers were present, screen saver failure, poor performance, slow boot, > occasional lock up, no system restore points, and ( seperate issue ) a > corrupt Business Contact Manager database. The bottom line was a lot of apps > were added and some removed and I wasn't ever going to get the full story. > So, I uninstalled the apps I thought didn't belong, did a virus and malware > scan ( no malware found), did a repair install of Vista. The computer now > works perfectly ( fixed the Outlook issue seperately). No data or settings > were lost and all apps work. > I didn't try any of the other recovery options because they were not > appropriate solutions to the issues at hand and in the case of the second > computer, system restore was DOA. > > I did the repair install on the first computer because although the issues > were minor, I was unable to find solutions in these newsgroups or online and > I really wanted every feature to work even though I don't use media center > or search very often. > > I was really pleased with the results on the second one because it was a > "real world' scenario- lots of problems, little history. > > > > -- > Jim > |
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| Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem Greetings Darrell what causes file corruptions? why are some corruptions so mutant that they cannot be repaired (why can't /scannow just replace it?) after a repair install, it becomes necessary to use the personal backup, isn't it possible that the corrupted files are *in the backup*? if this is the case then you will have repair install'ed with no benefit conferred! (am i making sense?) ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote: > Hello Rock, > While the behavior in Windows Vista is different, the result should be the > same. > You should be able to upgrade from inside Windows to "fix" or "repair" a > system. > If you can run setup this should be able to fix some problems particularly > problems where files or registry settings need to go back to defaults. > Applications, drivers and users accounts should still be present after the > upgrade. As always a backup of data is recomended to be safe. > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights > -------------------- > |>Reply-To: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> > |>From: "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> > |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> > <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > |>In-Reply-To: <2DO0$QIeHHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem > |>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:43:22 -0700 > |>Lines: 92 > |>MIME-Version: 1.0 > |>Content-Type: text/plain; > |> format=flowed; > |> charset="iso-8859-1"; > |> reply-type=original > |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > |>X-Priority: 3 > |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 > |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 > |>Message-ID: <uUgk92KeHHA.4688@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-6-82-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 24.6.82.24 > |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl > |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4526 > |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |> > |>Hi Darrell, can you confirm whether one can do a repair install, buy > |>reinstalling Vista on top of itself to fix problems as in the in place > |>upgrade in XP? > |> > |>Thanks > |> > |>-- > |>Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell] > |> > |>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote > |>> Hello, > |>> Right now a reinstall or upgrade may be the best choice. > |>> From the looks of the log file the prblem appears to be corruption in > the > |>> store which is causing this. > |>> Thanks, > |>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > |>> > |>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights > |>> -------------------- > |>> |>From: "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> > |>> |>References: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > |>> |>In-Reply-To: <C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com> > |>> |>Subject: Re: Vista system file corruption and sfc problem > |>> |>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:43:58 -0700 > |>> |>Lines: 35 > |>> |>Message-ID: <2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED@microsoft.com> > |>> |>MIME-Version: 1.0 > |>> |>Content-Type: text/plain; > |>> |> format=flowed; > |>> |> charset="Utf-8"; > |>> |> reply-type=original > |>> |>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > |>> |>X-Priority: 3 > |>> |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > |>> |>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386 > |>> |>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16386 > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {2D0D9E4E-71A5-4171-9795-04443F8419ED} > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > |>> |>X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35 > |>> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>> |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > |>> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > |>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:4475 > |>> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 > |>> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance > |>> |> > |>> |>"mitvah" <mitvah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > |>> |>news:C5ACB8B2-B32A-4FB2-AE91-B403773E2C35@microsoft.com... > |>> |>> Iâ?Tve a Vista Ultimate installed on a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. > The > |>> |>> problem > |>> |>> started a few weeks ago when Symantec Antivirus reported catching > |>> Clone > |>> |>> War > |>> |>> (1) on my computer. Iâ?Tve since done a few clean scans using > various > |>> |>> scanning > |>> |>> programs but some system files seems to have been lost or are > |>> corrupted. I > |>> |>> tried running sfc /scannow under admin cmd window and also after > |>> starting > |>> |>> the recovery cmd window, but got the same message both time: > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested > operation. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Even the automated recovery option to fix boot problem failed. Iâ?Tm > |>> able to > |>> |>> boot up the windows and its generally funtinal but quite a few > things > |>> are > |>> |>> not > |>> |>> working e.g. I canâ?Tt open the personalize window from the desktop > |>> right > |>> |>> click > |>> |>> menu. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Unitl late last week I was able to run the sfc and it reported a > whole > |>> |>> bunch > |>> |>> of problems but did not automatically fix anything. I didn't have > time > |>> to > |>> |>> look into manually fixing things but now even that's not working. > |>> |>> > |>> |>> Please help! > |>> |> > |>> |> > |>> |>If you are sure the system is clean, the quickest solution might be a > |>> repair > |>> |>install of Vista. > |>> |> > |>> |>-- > |>> |>Jim > |>> |> > |>> |> > |>> > |> > |> > > |
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