Vista - Speed problem with Intel Q6600 (Quad Core) and Ultimate 64-Bit

I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;

CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
MB: Intel DG965WH
RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
Video: PNY 8800GTS

In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9

In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
dropped the CPU to 4.6.

Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
in 64-Bit Vista.

Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?

ajf

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:41:01 -0700, ajf <ajf@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
>Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
>
>CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
>MB: Intel DG965WH
>RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
>Video: PNY 8800GTS
>
>In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
>all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
>Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
>
>In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
>CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
>simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
>utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
>dropped the CPU to 4.6.
>
>Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
>in 64-Bit Vista.
>
>Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
>
>ajf
FIRST you need to learn to ignore the ram usage in Vista. Is is
different than any OS before it. The more free ram you have means that
Vista is not doing its job correctly. Ram is MUCH faster than
harddrive speeds, therefore Vista is making use of the fast stuff and
leaving the slower drives for XP.
Second 32 bit systems have trouble with more than 3 gig of ram, just
the way it is. Same system, 32 bit versus 64 bit, 32 bit has issues.

Yes, but the 64-bit is so slow, that I can't even use Windows Explorer
effectivly. 32-Bit works like it should.

Also, why would my "Winodws Experience score" drop from 5.9 to 4.6 when
switching from 32 to 64-Bit.

"f/fgeorge" wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:41:01 -0700, ajf <ajf@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
> >Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
> >
> >CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
> >MB: Intel DG965WH
> >RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
> >Video: PNY 8800GTS
> >
> >In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
> >all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
> >Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
> >
> >In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
> >CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
> >simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
> >utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
> >dropped the CPU to 4.6.
> >
> >Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
> >in 64-Bit Vista.
> >
> >Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
> >
> >ajf
> FIRST you need to learn to ignore the ram usage in Vista. Is is
> different than any OS before it. The more free ram you have means that
> Vista is not doing its job correctly. Ram is MUCH faster than
> harddrive speeds, therefore Vista is making use of the fast stuff and
> leaving the slower drives for XP.
> Second 32 bit systems have trouble with more than 3 gig of ram, just
> the way it is. Same system, 32 bit versus 64 bit, 32 bit has issues.
>
>

Update to problem.

While searching the internet, I found that this is a common problem with the
Q6600 processor and more than 4gb of RAM. I removed two sticks of RAM and
the speed improved (Even the Windows Experience CPU score was back up to
5.9). I then added two additional 512 Sticks to make a total of 3Gb and fill
all four RAM slots. System is still working like it should.

So, it looks like Vista-64 Ultiimate has problems on computers with the
Q6600 and 4GB of RAM.

ajf




"ajf" wrote:

> I've been playing around with both the 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista
> Ultimate on my new PC. The system specs are as follows;
>
> CPU: Intel Q6600 (Quad Core 2.4)
> MB: Intel DG965WH
> RAM: 4Gb (1Gb Transcend PC 800MHz x 4)
> Video: PNY 8800GTS
>
> In Vista 32-Bit, System runs well (Good CPU Utilization) but will not see
> all 4Gb RAM (3.2+GB Seen), system seems to be using a fair amount of RAM.
> Windows Experience score Rates the CPU at 5.9
>
> In Vista 64-Bit Systetm runs significantly slower than the 32-Bit version.
> CPU Utilization near 50% with system at idle for all four cores. Running
> simple software pegs all four cores at 100%. System sees all four Gb and RAM
> utilization is better than in the 32-Bit. Windows Experience Score has
> dropped the CPU to 4.6.
>
> Two other IT people at work with similar system specs have the same problem
> in 64-Bit Vista.
>
> Anyone getting good results running 64-Bit Vista on an Intel Quad-core?
>
> ajf

Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it is
either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board with
4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition, It
was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being a
32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the
charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working
perfectly.


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I found other forums where people had the same problems with the Q6600, 4GB
RAM and most had the nVidia 8800 GTS/GTX. It was happening with Asus, MSI
and Intel boards. For some, downgrading the Bios a few versions to where the
user had more control over the "memory hole" area for the video card
corrected the problem. I will update the post with more URLs to the other
forums when I get back to work (I placed them in my favorites at the office)


AJF



"Moebius" wrote:

>
> Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it is
> either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board with
> 4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition, It
> was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being a
> 32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the
> charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working
> perfectly.
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I just built a system with a Q6600. I've got an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board and 4 GB of RAM. I'm not having any speed issues so far. The CPU is scoring 5.9 - and the RAM 5.5.

The system is still initializing the Raid volumes that I built with the ICH7 Southbridge (having a Raid 5 volume and a Raid 1 volume on a desktop is going to be nice).

The one catch I had when I started out was that the motherboard only registered 3.2 GB of RAM as available until I went in and changed an option to allow a 64 bit OS to see the entire RAM amount. That might be a spot to look for in your BIOS if you're having issues with speed and 4 GB of RAM.

Bamf

ajf;2925907 Wrote:
> I found other forums where people had the same problems with the Q6600,
> 4GB
> RAM and most had the nVidia 8800 GTS/GTX. It was happening with Asus,
> MSI
> and Intel boards. For some, downgrading the Bios a few versions to
> where the
> user had more control over the "memory hole" area for the video card
> corrected the problem. I will update the post with more URLs to the
> other
> forums when I get back to work (I placed them in my favorites at the
> office)
>
>
> AJF
>
>
>
> "Moebius" wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, I don't think it's due to your processor, however I do think it
> is
> > either the board or vista. I as well have an intel dg965wh board
> with
> > 4GB of OCZ DDR2 800MHZ RAM. Running in 32bit vista Business Edition,
> It
> > was perfect, though it only registered 3.2GB of RAM due to it being
> a
> > 32bit OS. I Loaded in a 64bit version and my CPU usage went off the
> > charts, until I took out 2GB of RAM and since then it's been working
> > perfectly.
> >
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Alright, so on the Intel DG965WH boards, to run 64bit OS and have more
than 3GB without it slowing your system down you must downgrade to the
bios revision 1669...

Instructions:
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-023360.htm

Download Link:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/down...ional&lang=eng

Sincerely,

Ben M
Intel(R) Technical Support

Intel(R) Desktop Board Support Web Site
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/


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Hello:

Does q6600 work with windows xp 64? Is this processor compatible with
it?
I have a q6600, board d975xbx2, 4Gb ram 667, sapphire ati x1550 512 mb.

What os should I use?

Please, help me.

I work with music, graphic design and video.

Thanks a lot.


gggmestizo


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I have the same processor ..same board same amount of ram and 3 ATI 3870s, I
have been running Vista business for well over a year ,,system is screaming
fast and rock solid !! great motherboard and processor combo !!

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