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Vista - memory above 4 gig???

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Old 06-20-2007   #1 (permalink)
joeg561 via WindowsKB.com


 
 

memory above 4 gig???

I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -
1024 sticks, went into vista and it sees 3.0 gig.. when I do an analysis of
computer by vista it shows four slots filled with 1024 sticks. don't share
memory with video card. it has its own 512mb.

why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

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Old 06-20-2007   #2 (permalink)
RickyBobby


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???


"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
news:73fd1c7bdd469@uwe...
>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -
> 1024 sticks, went into vista and it sees 3.0 gig.. when I do an analysis
> of
> computer by vista it shows four slots filled with 1024 sticks. don't share
> memory with video card. it has its own 512mb.
>
> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???
>
> --
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>


It is your motherboard, not Vista. Some motherboard chipsets have that
unfortunate limitation when four 1GB memory sticks are used.


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Old 06-20-2007   #3 (permalink)
Cal Bear '66


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

Vista 32-bit?

You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.

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"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
news:73fd1c7bdd469@uwe...
>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -
> 1024 sticks, went into vista and it sees 3.0 gig.. when I do an analysis of
> computer by vista it shows four slots filled with 1024 sticks. don't share
> memory with video card. it has its own 512mb.
>
> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com
>



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Old 06-20-2007   #4 (permalink)
joeg561 via WindowsKB.com


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

according to manufacturer, abit AV8-3rd eye/AV8 supports 4 gb of ddr 400
dual channel memory

RickyBobby wrote:
>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -

>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

>
>It is your motherboard, not Vista. Some motherboard chipsets have that
>unfortunate limitation when four 1GB memory sticks are used.


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Old 06-20-2007   #5 (permalink)
joeg561 via WindowsKB.com


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

yep 32 bit, does this mean that vista will not use all 4gb if it can't see it
and why doesn't vista notify people of this limitation before people spend
the money on memory. I won't go to 64 bit because of the driver and program
support problems and from all reports, 64 is not faster than 32 as of yet

Cal Bear '66 wrote:
>Vista 32-bit?
>
>You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.
>
>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???


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Old 06-20-2007   #6 (permalink)
Cal Bear '66


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

ALL 4GB is being used. But not all is available for running programs.

You know, of course, that YOU bear the responsibility for understanding the
limitations of 32-bit OSs.

Search Microsoft.com or Google for the memory limitations of 32-bit OSs and you
will find thousands of explanations and discussions. Or search these
newsgroups, especially the vista.general group.

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"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
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> yep 32 bit, does this mean that vista will not use all 4gb if it can't see it
> and why doesn't vista notify people of this limitation before people spend
> the money on memory. I won't go to 64 bit because of the driver and program
> support problems and from all reports, 64 is not faster than 32 as of yet
>
> Cal Bear '66 wrote:
>>Vista 32-bit?
>>
>>You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.
>>
>>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

>
> --
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>



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Old 06-20-2007   #7 (permalink)
Dustin Harper


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

If you search around, there are a lot of places that tell you that Vista
(and other 32Bit) doesn't support more than 4GB of address space. There are
lots of articles saying why.

64Bit Vista doesn't have too many problems with hardware drivers, unless you
are running older hardware. I'm among one of the ones that hasn't had any
issues, and all drivers work fine on my 64 Bit system. Getting better every
day!

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"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
news:73fd5d1899ae7@uwe...
> yep 32 bit, does this mean that vista will not use all 4gb if it can't see
> it
> and why doesn't vista notify people of this limitation before people spend
> the money on memory. I won't go to 64 bit because of the driver and
> program
> support problems and from all reports, 64 is not faster than 32 as of yet
>
> Cal Bear '66 wrote:
>>Vista 32-bit?
>>
>>You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.
>>
>>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees
>>> 4 -

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

>
> --
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>


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Old 06-20-2007   #8 (permalink)
Ronnie Vernon MVP


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

Joeg561

The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in
Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605


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"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
news:73fd5d1899ae7@uwe...
> yep 32 bit, does this mean that vista will not use all 4gb if it can't see
> it
> and why doesn't vista notify people of this limitation before people spend
> the money on memory. I won't go to 64 bit because of the driver and
> program
> support problems and from all reports, 64 is not faster than 32 as of yet
>
> Cal Bear '66 wrote:
>>Vista 32-bit?
>>
>>You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.
>>
>>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees
>>> 4 -

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com
>


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Old 06-20-2007   #9 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:31:59 -0700, "RickyBobby" <nascar42@cox.net>
wrote:

>
> "joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
> news:73fd1c7bdd469@uwe...
> >I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
> > 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees 4 -
> > 1024 sticks, went into vista and it sees 3.0 gig.. when I do an analysis
> > of
> > computer by vista it shows four slots filled with 1024 sticks. don't share
> > memory with video card. it has its own 512mb.
> >
> > why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???
> >
> > --
> > Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com
> >

>
> It is your motherboard, not Vista. Some motherboard chipsets have that
> unfortunate limitation when four 1GB memory sticks are used.



No, this isn't at all correct. 32-bit Vista has an address space of
4GB. However the 4GB address space has to be shared with memory used
for other devices. So Windows (not just XP but all 32-bit versions,
including 32-bit Vista) can't use that entire 4GB for itself.

How much it can use is around 3GB, but depends on what devices are
installed. It's normally a little more than 3GB. So installing more
than about 3GB of RAM is usually a waste of money.


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Old 06-20-2007   #10 (permalink)
Xenomorph


 
 

Re: memory above 4 gig???

why would "Vista" notify anyone of this?

it's a 32-bit thing.

the 32-bit platform has been around for a long time, and has always had this
issue.

it's not a Vista thing either, as any 32-bit version of Windows won't work
with 4 gigs of RAM.





"joeg561 via WindowsKB.com" <u35168@uwe> wrote in message
news:73fd5d1899ae7@uwe...
> yep 32 bit, does this mean that vista will not use all 4gb if it can't see
> it
> and why doesn't vista notify people of this limitation before people spend
> the money on memory. I won't go to 64 bit because of the driver and
> program
> support problems and from all reports, 64 is not faster than 32 as of yet
>
> Cal Bear '66 wrote:
>>Vista 32-bit?
>>
>>You won't see all 4GB with ANY 32-bit OS.
>>
>>>I recently increased my memory from 2 gig to 4 gig . use pc3200 ddr2 4 x
>>> 1024 sticks. flashed my bios to the newest release . mother board sees
>>> 4 -

>>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>
>>> why can't vista see and use entire 4gig???

>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com
>

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