I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I had a
ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran the
repair and restore it gave me an error:

There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are too
small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again. 0X80042401

Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that crashes?
If so that is totally useless.



Thanks, Mike

No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
Array.......and now its gone.
Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could have a
file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the last
1/4 on HD2.........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
peter
"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
>I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I had
>a
> ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran the
> repair and restore it gave me an error:
>
> There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are
> too
> small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again. 0X80042401
>
> Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
> ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that crashes?
> If so that is totally useless.
>
> Thanks, Mike

Ok I understand what a raid array is, but why can I not put my complete
backup on any other hard drive?

"peter" wrote:

> No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
> Array.......and now its gone.
> Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could have a
> file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the last
> 1/4 on HD2.........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
> peter
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
> >I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I had
> >a
> > ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran the
> > repair and restore it gave me an error:
> >
> > There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are
> > too
> > small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again. 0X80042401
> >
> > Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
> > ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that crashes?
> > If so that is totally useless.
> >
> > Thanks, Mike
>
>
>

Mike - you are not attentive to what Peter has stated. Complet PC Backup
backs up the "complete" computer - meaning the raid configuration also-
remove the Raid - no restore possible.
Currently "Windows Home Sever" is in RC1 test phase - documentation
recommends you do not use a Raid configuration - one reason backup and
restore problems.

Backup to a single HD/removeable media and you can restore to a different
HD>

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news2A5F9DA-86DF-42F6-A7C9-B724EC102D63@microsoft.com...
> Ok I understand what a raid array is, but why can I not put my complete
> backup on any other hard drive?
>
> "peter" wrote:
>
>> No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
>> Array.......and now its gone.
>> Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could
>> have a
>> file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the
>> last
>> 1/4 on HD2.........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
>> peter
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
>> >I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I
>> >had
>> >a
>> > ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran
>> > the
>> > repair and restore it gave me an error:
>> >
>> > There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks
>> > are
>> > too
>> > small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again.
>> > 0X80042401
>> >
>> > Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
>> > ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that
>> > crashes?
>> > If so that is totally useless.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Mike
>>
>>
>>

Ok I did back up my system disk c: which was the SATA raid 10 to an IDE extra
hard drive. Are you saying because my system disk c: was a raid that I
cannot restore the IDE disk drive image to a single SATA hard drive?

Can I ghost or copy my system raid to another hard drive with some 3rd party
software?

Thanks Guys.... Mike

"AJR" wrote:

> Mike - you are not attentive to what Peter has stated. Complet PC Backup
> backs up the "complete" computer - meaning the raid configuration also-
> remove the Raid - no restore possible.
> Currently "Windows Home Sever" is in RC1 test phase - documentation
> recommends you do not use a Raid configuration - one reason backup and
> restore problems.
>
> Backup to a single HD/removeable media and you can restore to a different
> HD>
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news2A5F9DA-86DF-42F6-A7C9-B724EC102D63@microsoft.com...
> > Ok I understand what a raid array is, but why can I not put my complete
> > backup on any other hard drive?
> >
> > "peter" wrote:
> >
> >> No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
> >> Array.......and now its gone.
> >> Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could
> >> have a
> >> file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the
> >> last
> >> 1/4 on HD2.........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
> >> peter
> >> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
> >> >I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I
> >> >had
> >> >a
> >> > ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran
> >> > the
> >> > repair and restore it gave me an error:
> >> >
> >> > There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks
> >> > are
> >> > too
> >> > small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again.
> >> > 0X80042401
> >> >
> >> > Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
> >> > ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that
> >> > crashes?
> >> > If so that is totally useless.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"peter" <peter@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:QMgli.107564$xq1.37707@pd7urf1no...

> No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
> Array.......and now its gone.
> Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could have
> a file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the
> last 1/4 on HD2.


This is *not* correct--at least not necessarily correct. There is more than
one kind of RAID. I think you are trying to describe RAID 0 (striping),
where data is alternately written to each of the drives in the array.
However in RAID 1 (mirroring), data is copied to all the drives in the
array, for redundancy.

Mike needs to clarify what kind of RAID array he has or had.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

>........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
> peter
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
>>I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I had
>>a
>> ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran the
>> repair and restore it gave me an error:
>>
>> There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are
>> too
>> small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again.
>> 0X80042401
>>
>> Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
>> ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that
>> crashes?
>> If so that is totally useless.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike
>
>

It "was" a Raid 10 (0+1) both performance and mirror. I am giving up on ever
salvaging my backup. It appears that the backup is trying to duplicate a
raid like structure on the the restore drive. I discovered this when
installing the new system on the single restore drive (wierd parameters). I
have started over with a single drive. Lessons learned. This whole problem
started when I buy a new Iphone. I needed to install Itunes on my computer.
Itunes has crashed my computer 3 of 3 times that I have installed it. But
come to think of it I have always had a raid installed on the system drive.
I am running just fine on a single drive with Itunes so there must have been
some issue there as well. I will test the single drive restore in the next
week or so. I'll report back. That for all your time and effort.

Mike

"Ken Blake" wrote:

> "peter" <peter@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:QMgli.107564$xq1.37707@pd7urf1no...
>
> > No..its telling you that you had a RAID Array...You backed up a Raid
> > Array.......and now its gone.
> > Remember in a RAID bits of bytes get stored on both HD .....you could have
> > a file where 1/4 was on HD1 1/4 on HD2 and then again 1/4 on HD1 and the
> > last 1/4 on HD2.
>
>
> This is *not* correct--at least not necessarily correct. There is more than
> one kind of RAID. I think you are trying to describe RAID 0 (striping),
> where data is alternately written to each of the drives in the array.
> However in RAID 1 (mirroring), data is copied to all the drives in the
> array, for redundancy.
>
> Mike needs to clarify what kind of RAID array he has or had.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
> >........and thats what theBackup is looking for and cant find.
> > peter
> > "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7DE07829-A49F-4888-B9D6-EBCA947BEFB7@microsoft.com...
> >>I used the windows complete system backup to a internal hard drive. I had
> >>a
> >> ATA raid and I wanted to go back to a single hard drive. When I ran the
> >> repair and restore it gave me an error:
> >>
> >> There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are
> >> too
> >> small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again.
> >> 0X80042401
> >>
> >> Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
> >> ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that
> >> crashes?
> >> If so that is totally useless.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Mike
> >
> >
>
>
>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:02:00 -0700, Mike
<Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are too
>small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again. 0X80042401
>
>Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
>ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that crashes?
>If so that is totally useless.

I recently encountered the exact same problem. Unlike the folks that
replied to your post, I concluded that using the Vista Complete PC
Backup you cannot restore to a drive smaller than the one you backed
up. So it is indeed worthless to me. As that's a limitation I'm not
willing to live with.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

What I ended up doing was, putting back my RAID array and restoring. I
then backed it up again with Acronis True Image, nuked the RAID array
again, and restored to a single drive.

That all went fine, but then Vista bluescreened me consistently on
boot. I assume because it was expecting the RAID array. So I had to
reinstall Vista anyway. *sigh*

-=Elden=-
http://www.moondog.org

Well went to standard SATA disk drives. With all tests complete, I can say
that windows backup was successful. My disk thru-put is about 1/2 of
performance with raid. I used WD Raptors so I guess it would be better than
most. The truth be told MS Windows always had weird glitches with my RAID 10
system disk.

Take Care End Transmittion.....

"Elden Fenison" wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:02:00 -0700, Mike
> <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >There are two few disks on this computer or one or more of the disks are too
> >small. Add or change disk so match your backup and try again. 0X80042401
> >
> >Ok so are you telling me that the complete backup that comes with vista
> >ultimate requires you to have the same disk drive as the one that crashes?
> >If so that is totally useless.
>
> I recently encountered the exact same problem. Unlike the folks that
> replied to your post, I concluded that using the Vista Complete PC
> Backup you cannot restore to a drive smaller than the one you backed
> up. So it is indeed worthless to me. As that's a limitation I'm not
> willing to live with.
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny this?
>
> What I ended up doing was, putting back my RAID array and restoring. I
> then backed it up again with Acronis True Image, nuked the RAID array
> again, and restored to a single drive.
>
> That all went fine, but then Vista bluescreened me consistently on
> boot. I assume because it was expecting the RAID array. So I had to
> reinstall Vista anyway. *sigh*
>
> -=Elden=-
> http://www.moondog.org
>