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Old 11-24-2007   #1 (permalink)
Matt


 
 

XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

I have an HP 1020 laserjet shared out on a vista ultimate system. I can see
the printer from an XP system (in the same workgroup), connect to it, print
to it, but the job never prints. It sits in the spooler. If I cycle the
spooler service, it prints when the service restarts.

I can print local jobs fine from the vista system (TSed into it), just not
jobs from the XP system. I've made sure that I have the latest drivers
installed on both systems.

Any ideas on how I can further narrow this down and fix it?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-26-2007   #2 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

I suspect that the print job requires access in the XP users context and
does not have access to a resource in Vista or due to the remote context.
When you restart the spooler service, the print job is restarted in full
admin context since the token from the client is no longer valid for the job
and the system admin account has access to whatever the resource required
from the driver.

Are there any system eventlog entries on the Vista machine when the XP
machine submits the job?

Does the job come in as Guest?



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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"Matt" <Matt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:19D6DA3E-C4BD-4250-9820-AA5CCBD36599@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have an HP 1020 laserjet shared out on a vista ultimate system. I can see
> the printer from an XP system (in the same workgroup), connect to it,
> print
> to it, but the job never prints. It sits in the spooler. If I cycle the
> spooler service, it prints when the service restarts.
>
> I can print local jobs fine from the vista system (TSed into it), just not
> jobs from the XP system. I've made sure that I have the latest drivers
> installed on both systems.
>
> Any ideas on how I can further narrow this down and fix it?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
astaykov


 
 

Re: XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

Hello,
I have the very same issue!
The print job from XP somec with a user which exists on the VISTA. It is
because I first login to the vista using SMB protocol so I have an
established security context with VISTA credential. But the print document
from XP still stays in the queue until restart of Print Spooler. Also I have
added the named user with full permissions in the security tab of the printer
properties.

Any suggestions are welcome.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> I suspect that the print job requires access in the XP users context and
> does not have access to a resource in Vista or due to the remote context.
> When you restart the spooler service, the print job is restarted in full
> admin context since the token from the client is no longer valid for the job
> and the system admin account has access to whatever the resource required
> from the driver.
>
> Are there any system eventlog entries on the Vista machine when the XP
> machine submits the job?
>
> Does the job come in as Guest?
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Matt" <Matt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:19D6DA3E-C4BD-4250-9820-AA5CCBD36599@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I have an HP 1020 laserjet shared out on a vista ultimate system. I can see
> > the printer from an XP system (in the same workgroup), connect to it,
> > print
> > to it, but the job never prints. It sits in the spooler. If I cycle the
> > spooler service, it prints when the service restarts.
> >
> > I can print local jobs fine from the vista system (TSed into it), just not
> > jobs from the XP system. I've made sure that I have the latest drivers
> > installed on both systems.
> >
> > Any ideas on how I can further narrow this down and fix it?
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-04-2008   #4 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

You will need to contact HP to determine which resource needs to be enabled
for guest or the standard user account

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

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"astaykov" <astaykov@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:5C30CAC0-F053-4712-87D2-FC45CD763F89@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hello,
> I have the very same issue!
> The print job from XP somec with a user which exists on the VISTA. It is
> because I first login to the vista using SMB protocol so I have an
> established security context with VISTA credential. But the print document
> from XP still stays in the queue until restart of Print Spooler. Also I
> have
> added the named user with full permissions in the security tab of the
> printer
> properties.
>
> Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I suspect that the print job requires access in the XP users context and
>> does not have access to a resource in Vista or due to the remote context.
>> When you restart the spooler service, the print job is restarted in full
>> admin context since the token from the client is no longer valid for the
>> job
>> and the system admin account has access to whatever the resource required
>> from the driver.
>>
>> Are there any system eventlog entries on the Vista machine when the XP
>> machine submits the job?
>>
>> Does the job come in as Guest?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Morris
>> Windows Printing Team
>> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "Matt" <Matt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:19D6DA3E-C4BD-4250-9820-AA5CCBD36599@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I have an HP 1020 laserjet shared out on a vista ultimate system. I can
>> >see
>> > the printer from an XP system (in the same workgroup), connect to it,
>> > print
>> > to it, but the job never prints. It sits in the spooler. If I cycle the
>> > spooler service, it prints when the service restarts.
>> >
>> > I can print local jobs fine from the vista system (TSed into it), just
>> > not
>> > jobs from the XP system. I've made sure that I have the latest drivers
>> > installed on both systems.
>> >
>> > Any ideas on how I can further narrow this down and fix it?
>>
>>
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-04-2008   #5 (permalink)
astaykov


 
 

Re: XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

Hi,
Together with the Microsoft TechNet team from the MS Forums we found a
solution.
The full version is posted here:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9862&SiteID=17

In brief: there are some local policies which should be set.
And disable the "bidirectional support" at the "Ports" tab of the printer
properties.

Regards,
Anton

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> You will need to contact HP to determine which resource needs to be enabled
> for guest or the standard user account
>
> --
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "astaykov" <astaykov@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:5C30CAC0-F053-4712-87D2-FC45CD763F89@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Hello,
> > I have the very same issue!
> > The print job from XP somec with a user which exists on the VISTA. It is
> > because I first login to the vista using SMB protocol so I have an
> > established security context with VISTA credential. But the print document
> > from XP still stays in the queue until restart of Print Spooler. Also I
> > have
> > added the named user with full permissions in the security tab of the
> > printer
> > properties.
> >
> > Any suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> I suspect that the print job requires access in the XP users context and
> >> does not have access to a resource in Vista or due to the remote context.
> >> When you restart the spooler service, the print job is restarted in full
> >> admin context since the token from the client is no longer valid for the
> >> job
> >> and the system admin account has access to whatever the resource required
> >> from the driver.
> >>
> >> Are there any system eventlog entries on the Vista machine when the XP
> >> machine submits the job?
> >>
> >> Does the job come in as Guest?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alan Morris
> >> Windows Printing Team
> >> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> "Matt" <Matt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:19D6DA3E-C4BD-4250-9820-AA5CCBD36599@xxxxxx
> >> >I have an HP 1020 laserjet shared out on a vista ultimate system. I can
> >> >see
> >> > the printer from an XP system (in the same workgroup), connect to it,
> >> > print
> >> > to it, but the job never prints. It sits in the spooler. If I cycle the
> >> > spooler service, it prints when the service restarts.
> >> >
> >> > I can print local jobs fine from the vista system (TSed into it), just
> >> > not
> >> > jobs from the XP system. I've made sure that I have the latest drivers
> >> > installed on both systems.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas on how I can further narrow this down and fix it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-28-2008   #6 (permalink)
sabbycat7


 
 

Re: XP print jobs on vista sit in spooler

Hi,
After trying to work out where the local policies were to check them (still
don't know and doesn't matter to me now), I disabled the "bidirectional
support" at the "ports" tab of the printer as my first step... and hey
presto! both XP machines are now printing to the Vista printer!
Thank you
Mari
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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