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Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

  1. #1


    Laurence Guest

    Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have some
    problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
    direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    easy.
    I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
    in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability in
    Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a more
    complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about my
    early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
    download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and of
    less value than intended.

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    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...print_fax_scan

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  3. #2


    Chuck Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by version
    since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
    I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
    concession to third party app developers.
    In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is also
    supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
    although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to see
    if someone has solved your problem.

    "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    > I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    some

    > problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    > applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
    > direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    > easy.
    > I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
    > in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
    in

    > Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
    more

    > complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    > lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
    my

    > early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    > hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
    > download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    > Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
    of

    > less value than intended.
    >
    > ----------------
    > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
    > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
    > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
    this

    > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
    > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
    >
    >
    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr
    int_fax_scan



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  4. #3


    Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    Wrong on 2 counts: Vista Fax and Scan is a noticeable improvement over
    Windows XP Fax and Windows 2000 Fax. Neither Office nor Outlook contain any
    fax software.
    --
    Russ Valentine
    [MVP-Outlook]
    "Chuck" <cdkuder@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ek$EIJ6WIHA.1376@xxxxxx

    > Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by version
    > since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
    > I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
    > concession to third party app developers.
    > In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is also
    > supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
    > although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to see
    > if someone has solved your problem.
    >
    > "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    >> I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    > some

    >> problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    >> applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
    >> occasional
    >> direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    >> easy.
    >> I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
    >> updates
    >> in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
    >> capability
    > in

    >> Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
    > more

    >> complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    >> lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
    > my

    >> early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    >> hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer
    >> a
    >> download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    >> Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
    >> and
    > of

    >> less value than intended.
    >>
    >> ----------------
    >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
    >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
    >> "I
    >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
    > this

    >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
    >> then
    >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
    >>
    >>
    > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr
    > int_fax_scan
    >
    >

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  5. #4


    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    >I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    >some
    > problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    > applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
    > direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    > easy.
    > I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
    > in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
    > in
    > Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
    > more
    > complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    > lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
    > my
    > early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    > hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
    > download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    > Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
    > of
    > less value than intended.
    >
    _scan


    While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
    visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
    it..

    http://www.snappysoftware.com/

    --
    Mike Hall - MVP
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





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  6. #5


    Chuck Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    Actually MS HAS downgraded the fax software in several different ways since
    2000 and 95.
    When you installed the complete version of office with outlook you did get
    full fax capability, although the install was somewhat problematic here and
    there.
    Networking fax was crippled in later versions. Modem control was crippled,
    and the modem reply processor was crippled.
    Some features were moved to the "server" versions.
    The better 3d party fax apps generally had//have more features anyway.
    HP, Brother, and Canon multi's to name 3 have fax programs included, and
    those with networking built in usually have network fax available as well
    for a limited number of users.

    "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:F2578089-E71F-44D4-A2C8-5F38C424D6A0@xxxxxx

    > Wrong on 2 counts: Vista Fax and Scan is a noticeable improvement over
    > Windows XP Fax and Windows 2000 Fax. Neither Office nor Outlook contain
    any

    > fax software.
    > --
    > Russ Valentine
    > [MVP-Outlook]
    > "Chuck" <cdkuder@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:ek$EIJ6WIHA.1376@xxxxxx

    > > Microsoft has downgraded the fax functionality windows version by
    version

    > > since they started using their own TCPIP stack.
    > > I don't know if it is due to support cost, redevelopment cost, or a
    > > concession to third party app developers.
    > > In any event, there are 3d party fax apps that are inexpensive. It is
    also

    > > supposedly possible to get the fax function to work via office outlook,
    > > although I've not tried it. I'd poke around in the office newsgroup to
    see

    > > if someone has solved your problem.
    > >
    > > "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    > >> I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    > > some

    > >> problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    > >> applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
    > >> occasional
    > >> direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick
    and

    > >> easy.
    > >> I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
    > >> updates
    > >> in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
    > >> capability
    > > in

    > >> Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in
    a

    > > more

    > >> complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind
    this

    > >> lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me
    about

    > > my

    > >> early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I
    sincerely

    > >> hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least
    offer

    > >> a
    > >> download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    > >> Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
    > >> and
    > > of

    > >> less value than intended.
    > >>
    > >> ----------------
    > >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
    > >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
    > >> "I
    > >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
    > > this

    > >> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
    > >> then
    > >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...ndows.vista.pr

    > > int_fax_scan
    > >
    > >
    >


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  7. #6


    secretchef Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
    that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
    going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.

    "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

    > "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    > >I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    > >some
    > > problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    > > applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
    > > direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    > > easy.
    > > I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
    > > in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
    > > in
    > > Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
    > > more
    > > complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    > > lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
    > > my
    > > early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    > > hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
    > > download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    > > Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
    > > of
    > > less value than intended.
    > >
    > _scan
    >
    >
    > While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
    > visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
    > it..
    >
    > http://www.snappysoftware.com/
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall - MVP
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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  8. #7


    Hubert WEIL Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium

    Same problem...

    I bought a Vista computer with a OLITEC fax/Modem..

    The Modem works (very badfull) with AOL..
    But not the FAX Software !!

    Drivers Problems that OLITEC WILL NOT RESOLVE !!

    Thanks...


    "secretchef" <secretchef@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message
    de news:AA494106-25C5-4CD4-A5EC-17F863BFB2C6@xxxxxx

    >I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
    > that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
    > going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
    >

    >> "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    >> >I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    >> >some
    >> > problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    >> > applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for
    >> > occasional
    >> > direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick
    >> > and
    >> > easy.
    >> > I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware
    >> > updates
    >> > in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax
    >> > capability
    >> > in
    >> > Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in
    >> > a
    >> > more
    >> > complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind
    >> > this
    >> > lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me
    >> > about
    >> > my
    >> > early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I
    >> > sincerely
    >> > hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least
    >> > offer a
    >> > download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    >> > Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled
    >> > and
    >> > of
    >> > less value than intended.
    >> >
    >> _scan
    >>
    >>
    >> While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home
    >> Premium,
    >> visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
    >> it..
    >>
    >> http://www.snappysoftware.com/
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mike Hall - MVP
    >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

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  9. #8


    secretchef Guest

    Re: Loss of Fax capability with Vista Home Premium



    "secretchef" wrote:

    > I can fax from 3 old computers with 3.11 win 95 and win 98 and XP, before
    > that I seem to remember that I could fax from my Atari. What the heck is
    > going on with Vista? I thought I was purchasing an upgrade. Very poor.
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
    >

    > > "Laurence" <Laurence@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > news:45B49F95-847E-4E49-A9DB-C1EBFD47900E@xxxxxx

    > > >I have just purchased a new computer from Dell and assumed I would have
    > > >some
    > > > problems learning a new OS, but I did not anticipate the loss of a good
    > > > applet like Microsoft Fax. I counted on this small program for occasional
    > > > direct communication with other facilities fax machine. It was quick and
    > > > easy.
    > > > I have a second older Dell computer which I invested with hardware updates
    > > > in preparation for upgrading to Vista as well. The lack of fax capability
    > > > in
    > > > Vista precludes my upgading as I need one machine that can function in a
    > > > more
    > > > complete manner. I don't pretend to understand the rationale behind this
    > > > lack in Vista but I sorely miss the function. Others have teased me about
    > > > my
    > > > early adoption of Vista and now I am definitely embarrassed. I sincerely
    > > > hope Microsoft will reconsider this situation and perhaps at least offer a
    > > > download correction to improve the functionality of this Vista suite.
    > > > Otherwise potential customers ought to consider this suite as crippled and
    > > > of
    > > > less value than intended.
    > > >
    > > _scan
    > >
    > >
    > > While you are waiting for MS to rethink Fax software in Vista Home Premium,
    > > visit this website, download the trial, and if you like what you see, buy
    > > it..
    > >
    > > http://www.snappysoftware.com/
    > >
    > > --
    > > Mike Hall - MVP
    > > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks Mike. I saw your posts before--I DONT WANT to have to purchase other software. I think Mac or some other OS is probably the way forward.
    > >
    > >

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