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Old 04-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
Tom


 
 

WFS fails to start

Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't see
the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-02-2008   #2 (permalink)
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured your
WFS account?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23jen6ZOlIHA.6092@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).
>
> Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
> see the application in my task list or on the screen.
>
> Any suggestions on how to get it working?
>
> T
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
Tom


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

Hi, Russ,

That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started, failed,
or anything.

I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find any
thing..

I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
doing lots of stuff, and terminating.

I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm

Maybe you can spot something?

To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.

But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed things
up?)

Thanks!!


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B3ECF37B-E64E-46F5-88FD-69DC845D5CF4@xxxxxx
Quote:

> You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
> made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured your
> WFS account?
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23jen6ZOlIHA.6092@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).
>>
>> Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
>> see the application in my task list or on the screen.
>>
>> Any suggestions on how to get it working?
>>
>> T
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-02-2008   #4 (permalink)
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
interfere.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OvSop7SlIHA.3400@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, Russ,
>
> That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
> failed, or anything.
>
> I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
> any thing..
>
> I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
> collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
> doing lots of stuff, and terminating.
>
> I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
> www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm
>
> Maybe you can spot something?
>
> To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.
>
> But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
> possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
> things up?)
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:B3ECF37B-E64E-46F5-88FD-69DC845D5CF4@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
>> made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
>> your WFS account?
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23jen6ZOlIHA.6092@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).
>>>
>>> Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
>>> see the application in my task list or on the screen.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how to get it working?
>>>
>>> T
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #5 (permalink)
Tom


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

Yup, I hate the HP All-in-one software anyway. As I recall, I installed it
because I needed to scan and WFS wouldn't work.

So what's your suggestion to get WFS working. Will uninstalling the
All-in-one software be sufficient, or is the uninstall not sufficient. Any
suggestions?

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:70524852-7A5E-4DDE-A393-78E4B2BAB039@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
> interfere.
> --
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
LoneWolf


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

Russ

I will have to disagree with you on this one.
I use an Epson CX3900 AIO and have absolutely NO
troubles with Printing, Scanning, Copying or Faxing.
Absolutely NO problems (including fax from scanner)
using WFS from the day I installed it.
<T> Doesn't the software for the HP printer/scanner have
a seperate 'scanner' only shortcut on the desktop like Epson does ?

--
regards
CL
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
Quote:

> Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
> interfere.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OvSop7SlIHA.3400@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Hi, Russ,
> >
> > That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
> > failed, or anything.
> >
> > I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
> > any thing..
> >
> > I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
> > collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
> > doing lots of stuff, and terminating.
> >
> > I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
> > www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm
> >
> > Maybe you can spot something?
> >
> > To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.
> >
> > But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
> > possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
> > things up?)
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:B3ECF37B-E64E-46F5-88FD-69DC845D5CF4@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >> You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
> >> made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
> >> your WFS account?
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:%23jen6ZOlIHA.6092@xxxxxx
> >>> Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).
> >>>
> >>> Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
> >>> see the application in my task list or on the screen.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions on how to get it working?
> >>>
> >>> T
> >>
> >
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

There are exceptions to every rule. The fact remains that WFS was not
developed to support AIO's and usually doesn't. It is intended for use with
standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"LoneWolf" <LoneWolf@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EF845761-ACCA-467D-97AB-2A873698AE44@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Russ
>
> I will have to disagree with you on this one.
> I use an Epson CX3900 AIO and have absolutely NO
> troubles with Printing, Scanning, Copying or Faxing.
> Absolutely NO problems (including fax from scanner)
> using WFS from the day I installed it.
> <T> Doesn't the software for the HP printer/scanner have
> a seperate 'scanner' only shortcut on the desktop like Epson does ?
>
> --
> regards
> CL
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
>> interfere.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OvSop7SlIHA.3400@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Hi, Russ,
>> >
>> > That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
>> > failed, or anything.
>> >
>> > I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
>> > any thing..
>> >
>> > I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
>> > collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the
>> > process
>> > doing lots of stuff, and terminating.
>> >
>> > I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
>> > www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm
>> >
>> > Maybe you can spot something?
>> >
>> > To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.
>> >
>> > But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is
>> > it
>> > possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
>> > things up?)
>> >
>> > Thanks!!
>> >
>> >
>> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:B3ECF37B-E64E-46F5-88FD-69DC845D5CF4@xxxxxx
>> >> You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes
>> >> you
>> >> made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
>> >> your WFS account?
>> >> --
>> >> Russ Valentine
>> >> [MVP-Outlook]
>> >> "Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23jen6ZOlIHA.6092@xxxxxx
>> >>> Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).
>> >>>
>> >>> Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I
>> >>> don't
>> >>> see the application in my task list or on the screen.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions on how to get it working?
>> >>>
>> >>> T
>> >>
>> >
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

Depends on what other options you have. WFS was developed to interface with
standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OpKxS5UlIHA.1164@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Yup, I hate the HP All-in-one software anyway. As I recall, I installed it
> because I needed to scan and WFS wouldn't work.
>
> So what's your suggestion to get WFS working. Will uninstalling the
> All-in-one software be sufficient, or is the uninstall not sufficient. Any
> suggestions?
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:70524852-7A5E-4DDE-A393-78E4B2BAB039@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
>> interfere.
>> --
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #9 (permalink)
Tom


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

I just uninstalled the HP All-in-one software (good riddance!) but WFS still
won't start.

I'm pretty sure that at one time WFS worked with the HP scanner, but that
doesn't matter to em.

Any further suggestions, Russ, on getting WFS to start?

Also, in your experience, is it possible to use an HP all-in-one in Vista
without the HP all-in-one software? Would that require a 3rd party app, or
is it not possible?

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F5847C1E-B8D5-4017-B8BE-703D690CD95E@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Depends on what other options you have. WFS was developed to interface
> with standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]


 
 

Re: WFS fails to start

No. WFS was designed to work only with analog fax modems and standalone
scanners that meet certain specifications and are on the VHCL. There was
consideration given to supporting AIO devices, but the developers were never
able to accomplish that. There are anecdotal reports of users who have been
able to get WFS to use their AIO devices, but there is no documentation or
support for doing so from either Microsoft or the third party manufacturers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Tom" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uvHy3zZlIHA.1164@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I just uninstalled the HP All-in-one software (good riddance!) but WFS
>still won't start.
>
> I'm pretty sure that at one time WFS worked with the HP scanner, but that
> doesn't matter to em.
>
> Any further suggestions, Russ, on getting WFS to start?
>
> Also, in your experience, is it possible to use an HP all-in-one in Vista
> without the HP all-in-one software? Would that require a 3rd party app, or
> is it not possible?
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F5847C1E-B8D5-4017-B8BE-703D690CD95E@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Depends on what other options you have. WFS was developed to interface
>> with standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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