Vista - Re: Still Cannot Add Network Printer - Access Denied

Ok
Thanks for the tip, now how do I tell?
I'm not sure how to even acces the screen you're showing there.



"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

> Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
> machine?
>
> E:\>dir \\server\print$
> Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
> Directory of \\server\print$
> ..
> 12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
> 10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
> 10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
> 07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
> 10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64
>
>
> If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
> share.
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A6FC44F-8508-4A04-87FC-BC73E33DC4AF@microsoft.com...
> > So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change. I
> > really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably 60%
> > of
> > the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
> > gonna
> > really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag they're
> > asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
> > BigK,
> > No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!
> >
> > "Rusty H" wrote:
> >
> >> RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:06FF3864-A06E-4165-93A5-E08C3236AEF4@microsoft.com...
> >> > No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really starting
> >> > to
> >> > get
> >> > frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
> >> > mighty
> >> > . I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now.
> >> > Had
> >> > to
> >> > do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept complaining
> >> > about
> >> > the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jordan
> >> >
> >> > "BigK" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:B5B81EC1-7278-4F8A-B8AB-6A1E0BC617D4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta and
> >> >> > RC1
> >> >> > TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but XP
> >> >> > wasn't
> >> >> > any great shakes either when it first came out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to throw
> >> >> > blame
> >> >> > around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP home
> >> >> > machine
> >> >> > yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for what
> >> >> > isn't
> >> >> > solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > really isn't any reason for one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none of
> >> >> it
> >> >> has
> >> >> worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista RC2
> >> >> has
> >> >> fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
> >> >> printers
> >> >> but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the way
> >> >> XP
> >> >> shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have worked
> >> >> for
> >> >> anyone I've seen yet.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "BigK" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:3947E2A4-A79A-4792-88B9-4AEFE99C3214@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
> >> >> >> >what
> >> >> >> >i'm
> >> >> >> > saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember that
> >> >> >> > MS
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > NOT
> >> >> >> > responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that
> >> >> >> > i've
> >> >> >> > seen
> >> >> >> > here
> >> >> >> > is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
> >> >> >> > Lexmark.
> >> >> >> > Their
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > ones we should be going after.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> might not be the printer companies that are having the problem. It
> >> >> >> seems
> >> >> >> that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP Home.
> >> >> >> That
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> MS's fault.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>
>

OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP Home?

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

> Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
> machine?
>
> E:\>dir \\server\print$
> Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
> Directory of \\server\print$
> ..
> 12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
> 10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
> 10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
> 07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
> 10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64
>
>
> If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
> share.
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Morris
> Windows Printing Team
> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A6FC44F-8508-4A04-87FC-BC73E33DC4AF@microsoft.com...
> > So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change. I
> > really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably 60%
> > of
> > the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
> > gonna
> > really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag they're
> > asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
> > BigK,
> > No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!
> >
> > "Rusty H" wrote:
> >
> >> RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:06FF3864-A06E-4165-93A5-E08C3236AEF4@microsoft.com...
> >> > No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really starting
> >> > to
> >> > get
> >> > frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
> >> > mighty
> >> > . I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now.
> >> > Had
> >> > to
> >> > do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept complaining
> >> > about
> >> > the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jordan
> >> >
> >> > "BigK" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:B5B81EC1-7278-4F8A-B8AB-6A1E0BC617D4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta and
> >> >> > RC1
> >> >> > TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but XP
> >> >> > wasn't
> >> >> > any great shakes either when it first came out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to throw
> >> >> > blame
> >> >> > around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP home
> >> >> > machine
> >> >> > yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for what
> >> >> > isn't
> >> >> > solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > really isn't any reason for one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none of
> >> >> it
> >> >> has
> >> >> worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista RC2
> >> >> has
> >> >> fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
> >> >> printers
> >> >> but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the way
> >> >> XP
> >> >> shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have worked
> >> >> for
> >> >> anyone I've seen yet.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "BigK" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:3947E2A4-A79A-4792-88B9-4AEFE99C3214@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
> >> >> >> >what
> >> >> >> >i'm
> >> >> >> > saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember that
> >> >> >> > MS
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > NOT
> >> >> >> > responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that
> >> >> >> > i've
> >> >> >> > seen
> >> >> >> > here
> >> >> >> > is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
> >> >> >> > Lexmark.
> >> >> >> > Their
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > ones we should be going after.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> might not be the printer companies that are having the problem. It
> >> >> >> seems
> >> >> >> that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP Home.
> >> >> >> That
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> MS's fault.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:579B07C5-C7AB-4237-93A5-0D87262794E1@microsoft.com...
> OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
> Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP
> Home?

Everyone that has given me this tip says do it in the "security" tab under
the printer properties. But Home does not have this tab. So is there some
other way to do this in Home? If so, please offer good instructions in step
by step or a link to a site that gives such.


>
> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
>> machine?
>>
>> E:\>dir \\server\print$
>> Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
>> Directory of \\server\print$
>> ..
>> 12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
>> 10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
>> 10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
>> 07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
>> 10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64
>>
>>
>> If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
>> share.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Morris
>> Windows Printing Team
>> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2A6FC44F-8508-4A04-87FC-BC73E33DC4AF@microsoft.com...
>> > So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change.
>> > I
>> > really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably
>> > 60%
>> > of
>> > the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
>> > gonna
>> > really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag
>> > they're
>> > asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree with
>> > BigK,
>> > No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!
>> >
>> > "Rusty H" wrote:
>> >
>> >> RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:06FF3864-A06E-4165-93A5-E08C3236AEF4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really
>> >> > starting
>> >> > to
>> >> > get
>> >> > frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
>> >> > mighty
>> >> > . I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up now.
>> >> > Had
>> >> > to
>> >> > do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept
>> >> > complaining
>> >> > about
>> >> > the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jordan
>> >> >
>> >> > "BigK" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:B5B81EC1-7278-4F8A-B8AB-6A1E0BC617D4@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > RC1
>> >> >> > TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember, but
>> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> > wasn't
>> >> >> > any great shakes either when it first came out.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to
>> >> >> > throw
>> >> >> > blame
>> >> >> > around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP
>> >> >> > home
>> >> >> > machine
>> >> >> > yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try and
>> >> >> > see
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > isn't
>> >> >> > solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
>> >> >> > when
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > really isn't any reason for one.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista
>> >> >> RC2
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
>> >> >> printers
>> >> >> but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the
>> >> >> way
>> >> >> XP
>> >> >> shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have
>> >> >> worked
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> anyone I've seen yet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "BigK" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:3947E2A4-A79A-4792-88B9-4AEFE99C3214@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
>> >> >> >> >what
>> >> >> >> >i'm
>> >> >> >> > saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > MS
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > NOT
>> >> >> >> > responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone that
>> >> >> >> > i've
>> >> >> >> > seen
>> >> >> >> > here
>> >> >> >> > is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
>> >> >> >> > Lexmark.
>> >> >> >> > Their
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > ones we should be going after.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
>> >> >> >> then
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> might not be the printer companies that are having the problem.
>> >> >> >> It
>> >> >> >> seems
>> >> >> >> that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP
>> >> >> >> Home.
>> >> >> >> That
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> MS's fault.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

It's not a printer setting, it's a server share, file setting.

I think you will need to turn off Simple File Sharing (any explorer windows,
uncheck [I am on a domain so do not have this OS] ), then open the system
drive, drill down to \windows\system32\spool\drivers. Hold down the shift
key, select the folder, right click and set sharing permissions. Give
"Everyone" Read access.



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"BigK" <bigk@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:%23r4JekJ7GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:579B07C5-C7AB-4237-93A5-0D87262794E1@microsoft.com...
>> OK, Scratch that last post, I just figured it out,
>> Same Error. Access denied. Where would I go to Change the Share on XP
>> Home?
>
> Everyone that has given me this tip says do it in the "security" tab under
> the printer properties. But Home does not have this tab. So is there
> some other way to do this in Home? If so, please offer good instructions
> in step by step or a link to a site that gives such.
>
>
>>
>> "Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:
>>
>>> Is the print$ share on the XP home machine accessible from the Vista
>>> machine?
>>>
>>> E:\>dir \\server\print$
>>> Volume in drive \\server\print$ has no label.
>>> Directory of \\server\print$
>>> ..
>>> 12/14/2005 11:53 AM <DIR> color
>>> 10/02/2006 01:26 PM <DIR> IA64
>>> 10/06/2006 05:31 PM <DIR> w32x86
>>> 07/18/2005 02:28 PM <DIR> WIN40
>>> 10/02/2006 01:31 PM <DIR> x64
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's not change the HOME machine so everyone has read access to this
>>> share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Morris
>>> Windows Printing Team
>>> Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base here:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
>>>
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2A6FC44F-8508-4A04-87FC-BC73E33DC4AF@microsoft.com...
>>> > So I noticed myself. Finally RC2 Installed last night and no change.
>>> > I
>>> > really wish someone would solve this freaking issue!!! about probably
>>> > 60%
>>> > of
>>> > the world's computers run XP Home. If Microsoft doesn't fix this it's
>>> > gonna
>>> > really hurt them in the long run. We all can't afford the prictag
>>> > they're
>>> > asking for vista, and right now if I can't get this fixed, I agree
>>> > with
>>> > BigK,
>>> > No Vista for me. I need my printer!!!
>>> >
>>> > "Rusty H" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> RC2 didn't fix this issue on my network.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:06FF3864-A06E-4165-93A5-E08C3236AEF4@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > No worries BigK, as the saying "no harm, no foul" I'm really
>>> >> > starting
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > get
>>> >> > frustrated too. My appologies to u if I came off sounding high and
>>> >> > mighty
>>> >> > . I tried installing RC2 but can't get my display to come up
>>> >> > now.
>>> >> > Had
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > do the Upgrade option as the ISO wouldN't burn. Nero kept
>>> >> > complaining
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > the Lead out and the burn kept failing. GRRRR!!!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Regards,
>>> >> > Jordan
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "BigK" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:B5B81EC1-7278-4F8A-B8AB-6A1E0BC617D4@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >> > Ok if it's MS's Fault, Why use Vista? The whole point in Beta
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > RC1
>>> >> >> > TESTING is just that, TESTING. I don't know if you remember,
>>> >> >> > but XP
>>> >> >> > wasn't
>>> >> >> > any great shakes either when it first came out.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Another question I'd really like answers to, Besides trying to
>>> >> >> > throw
>>> >> >> > blame
>>> >> >> > around, is why can you see the shared documents folder on an XP
>>> >> >> > home
>>> >> >> > machine
>>> >> >> > yet can't connect to the printer? makes no sense. Let's try
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > see
>>> >> >> > what
>>> >> >> > we
>>> >> >> > can find out, all this back and forth over who's at fault for
>>> >> >> > what
>>> >> >> > isn't
>>> >> >> > solving the problem. it's just creating an issue between people
>>> >> >> > when
>>> >> >> > there
>>> >> >> > really isn't any reason for one.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Sorry, but I've tried everything that has been advised. And none
>>> >> >> of
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> has
>>> >> >> worked. I'm downloading the latest RC2 now so we'll see if Vista
>>> >> >> RC2
>>> >> >> has
>>> >> >> fixed this problem. I don't know why I can see shared folders and
>>> >> >> printers
>>> >> >> but cannot connect to printers. Someone says it is becasue of the
>>> >> >> way
>>> >> >> XP
>>> >> >> shares printers but there have been no solutions yet that have
>>> >> >> worked
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >> anyone I've seen yet.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "BigK" wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> "Jordan H." <JordanH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> >> >> >> message
>>> >> >> >> news:3947E2A4-A79A-4792-88B9-4AEFE99C3214@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >> >> >I haven't actually gotten anything to work either. that's not
>>> >> >> >> >what
>>> >> >> >> >i'm
>>> >> >> >> > saying. what i'm trying to say is that you gotta remember
>>> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> > MS
>>> >> >> >> > in
>>> >> >> >> > NOT
>>> >> >> >> > responsible for writing 3rd PARTY MFGs DRIVERS. Everyone
>>> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> > i've
>>> >> >> >> > seen
>>> >> >> >> > here
>>> >> >> >> > is running one of the big 3 MFGs printer, Cannon, HP, and
>>> >> >> >> > Lexmark.
>>> >> >> >> > Their
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > ones we should be going after.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have an Epson and a Samsung. so if ALL printers are affected
>>> >> >> >> then
>>> >> >> >> it
>>> >> >> >> might not be the printer companies that are having the problem.
>>> >> >> >> It
>>> >> >> >> seems
>>> >> >> >> that the one common denominator is Vista trying to access XP
>>> >> >> >> Home.
>>> >> >> >> That
>>> >> >> >> is
>>> >> >> >> MS's fault.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>