Vista - Importing Fax Files from XP Backups

I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup the
sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files into
Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears it
should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems. I
have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in Vista
Fax.

What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up .tif
files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista Fax
are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
--
Donald Mills

Did you try Documents > Fax? That's where mine are.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:400C680B-13D2-447E-BBCD-9252BDD60DE5@microsoft.com...
>I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup
>the
> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files into
> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears it
> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems. I
> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
> Vista
> Fax.
>
> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up
> .tif
> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista
> Fax
> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> --
> Donald Mills

No. That's way too obvious. I'm used to having to make things visible, go
thru multiple nest, etc. Will try that!!! Thanks!
--
Donald Mills


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> Did you try Documents > Fax? That's where mine are.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:400C680B-13D2-447E-BBCD-9252BDD60DE5@microsoft.com...
> >I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup
> >the
> > sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files into
> > Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears it
> > should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems. I
> > have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
> > Vista
> > Fax.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up
> > .tif
> > files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista
> > Fax
> > are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> > --
> > Donald Mills
>

No. That's way to obvious. I'm accustomed to making things visible, going
thru nests upon nests, etc. ;=) Will try that. THANKS!!!
--
Donald Mills


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> Did you try Documents > Fax? That's where mine are.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:400C680B-13D2-447E-BBCD-9252BDD60DE5@microsoft.com...
> >I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup
> >the
> > sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files into
> > Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears it
> > should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems. I
> > have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
> > Vista
> > Fax.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up
> > .tif
> > files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista
> > Fax
> > are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> > --
> > Donald Mills
>

OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder. However,
there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No Sent
folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area (see below).
If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button to
change the archive folder location, which is c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common Coverpages,
Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.

Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax folder
having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to both the
\Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP are shown
in Vista Fax.

I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files, not just
copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight copy just
doesn't seem to be working.

Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
--
Donald Mills


"Mills Architect" wrote:

> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup the
> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files into
> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears it
> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems. I
> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in Vista
> Fax.
>
> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up .tif
> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista Fax
> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> --
> Donald Mills

Let me look into this. It takes some unhiding of files and special
permissions even to expose and access those folders. I assume you have done
that. Also what is your file association for TIF files?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:6B91A7C2-2045-4EF7-8A6A-8F1B2B582520@microsoft.com...
> OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder. However,
> there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No Sent
> folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area (see
> below).
> If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button to
> change the archive folder location, which is
> c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common Coverpages,
> Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.
>
> Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax folder
> having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to both
> the
> \Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP are
> shown
> in Vista Fax.
>
> I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files, not just
> copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight copy
> just
> doesn't seem to be working.
>
> Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
> --
> Donald Mills
>
>
> "Mills Architect" wrote:
>
>> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup
>> the
>> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files
>> into
>> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears
>> it
>> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems.
>> I
>> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
>> Vista
>> Fax.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up
>> .tif
>> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista
>> Fax
>> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
>> --
>> Donald Mills

Thanks for the note back. File association for .tif files is MS Office
Document Imaging. Found that in CP>Default Programs>Set Associations. The
faxes I do with Vista fax are viewable. The historical files from WinXP Fax,
just last week, are not.

Yep. Have unhidden files and folders. Have given myself every permissions I
can find. Because AutoCAD LT 2007 will not open/run with User Account Control
(UAC) running, I have UAC turned off.

Would it be helpful to attach a file from each Fax program? Is there some
extra "something" the Vista Fax files have that the WinXP files don't?

Lastly, seems like an import function is either missing or needed. Or I
can't find it if there is one. WinXP Fax has it. That's how I always put the
files back when I had to reformat and reinstall in WinXP.

THanks again for your help!!!
--
Donald Mills


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> Let me look into this. It takes some unhiding of files and special
> permissions even to expose and access those folders. I assume you have done
> that. Also what is your file association for TIF files?
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:6B91A7C2-2045-4EF7-8A6A-8F1B2B582520@microsoft.com...
> > OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder. However,
> > there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No Sent
> > folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area (see
> > below).
> > If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button to
> > change the archive folder location, which is
> > c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
> > NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common Coverpages,
> > Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.
> >
> > Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax folder
> > having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to both
> > the
> > \Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP are
> > shown
> > in Vista Fax.
> >
> > I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files, not just
> > copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight copy
> > just
> > doesn't seem to be working.
> >
> > Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
> > --
> > Donald Mills
> >
> >
> > "Mills Architect" wrote:
> >
> >> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely backup
> >> the
> >> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files
> >> into
> >> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It appears
> >> it
> >> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or SentItems.
> >> I
> >> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
> >> Vista
> >> Fax.
> >>
> >> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed up
> >> .tif
> >> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in Vista
> >> Fax
> >> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> >> --
> >> Donald Mills
>

The method you are using is the correct one (and the only one). Why it isn't
working with Vista I don't know. I'll see if I can reproduce it when I have
some time and bug it directly with the developers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message newsE76F0F5-A4DA-4DA6-8C70-42FB7B582EBD@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the note back. File association for .tif files is MS Office
> Document Imaging. Found that in CP>Default Programs>Set Associations. The
> faxes I do with Vista fax are viewable. The historical files from WinXP
> Fax,
> just last week, are not.
>
> Yep. Have unhidden files and folders. Have given myself every permissions
> I
> can find. Because AutoCAD LT 2007 will not open/run with User Account
> Control
> (UAC) running, I have UAC turned off.
>
> Would it be helpful to attach a file from each Fax program? Is there some
> extra "something" the Vista Fax files have that the WinXP files don't?
>
> Lastly, seems like an import function is either missing or needed. Or I
> can't find it if there is one. WinXP Fax has it. That's how I always put
> the
> files back when I had to reformat and reinstall in WinXP.
>
> THanks again for your help!!!
> --
> Donald Mills
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> Let me look into this. It takes some unhiding of files and special
>> permissions even to expose and access those folders. I assume you have
>> done
>> that. Also what is your file association for TIF files?
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:6B91A7C2-2045-4EF7-8A6A-8F1B2B582520@microsoft.com...
>> > OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder.
>> > However,
>> > there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No Sent
>> > folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area (see
>> > below).
>> > If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button to
>> > change the archive folder location, which is
>> > c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
>> > NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common
>> > Coverpages,
>> > Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.
>> >
>> > Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax
>> > folder
>> > having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to
>> > both
>> > the
>> > \Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP are
>> > shown
>> > in Vista Fax.
>> >
>> > I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files, not
>> > just
>> > copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight copy
>> > just
>> > doesn't seem to be working.
>> >
>> > Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
>> > --
>> > Donald Mills
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mills Architect" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely
>> >> backup
>> >> the
>> >> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files
>> >> into
>> >> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It
>> >> appears
>> >> it
>> >> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or
>> >> SentItems.
>> >> I
>> >> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
>> >> Vista
>> >> Fax.
>> >>
>> >> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed
>> >> up
>> >> .tif
>> >> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in
>> >> Vista
>> >> Fax
>> >> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
>> >> --
>> >> Donald Mills
>>

Thanks for your help!!! Will look forward to hearing from you...
--
Donald Mills


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> The method you are using is the correct one (and the only one). Why it isn't
> working with Vista I don't know. I'll see if I can reproduce it when I have
> some time and bug it directly with the developers.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message newsE76F0F5-A4DA-4DA6-8C70-42FB7B582EBD@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the note back. File association for .tif files is MS Office
> > Document Imaging. Found that in CP>Default Programs>Set Associations. The
> > faxes I do with Vista fax are viewable. The historical files from WinXP
> > Fax,
> > just last week, are not.
> >
> > Yep. Have unhidden files and folders. Have given myself every permissions
> > I
> > can find. Because AutoCAD LT 2007 will not open/run with User Account
> > Control
> > (UAC) running, I have UAC turned off.
> >
> > Would it be helpful to attach a file from each Fax program? Is there some
> > extra "something" the Vista Fax files have that the WinXP files don't?
> >
> > Lastly, seems like an import function is either missing or needed. Or I
> > can't find it if there is one. WinXP Fax has it. That's how I always put
> > the
> > files back when I had to reformat and reinstall in WinXP.
> >
> > THanks again for your help!!!
> > --
> > Donald Mills
> >
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> Let me look into this. It takes some unhiding of files and special
> >> permissions even to expose and access those folders. I assume you have
> >> done
> >> that. Also what is your file association for TIF files?
> >> --
> >> Russ Valentine
> >> [MVP-Outlook]
> >> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:6B91A7C2-2045-4EF7-8A6A-8F1B2B582520@microsoft.com...
> >> > OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder.
> >> > However,
> >> > there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No Sent
> >> > folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area (see
> >> > below).
> >> > If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button to
> >> > change the archive folder location, which is
> >> > c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
> >> > NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common
> >> > Coverpages,
> >> > Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.
> >> >
> >> > Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax
> >> > folder
> >> > having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to
> >> > both
> >> > the
> >> > \Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP are
> >> > shown
> >> > in Vista Fax.
> >> >
> >> > I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files, not
> >> > just
> >> > copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight copy
> >> > just
> >> > doesn't seem to be working.
> >> >
> >> > Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
> >> > --
> >> > Donald Mills
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mills Architect" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely
> >> >> backup
> >> >> the
> >> >> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up files
> >> >> into
> >> >> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It
> >> >> appears
> >> >> it
> >> >> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or
> >> >> SentItems.
> >> >> I
> >> >> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible in
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> Fax.
> >> >>
> >> >> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the backed
> >> >> up
> >> >> .tif
> >> >> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> Fax
> >> >> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
> >> >> --
> >> >> Donald Mills
> >>
>

Reproduced here. The developers are aware of the issue. Here's the way
things work: If you do an in-place upgrade from Win XP to Vista, all your
faxes will be converted to a format which will be visible in Vista Fax. If
you do a clean install of Vista then manually move your faxes from XP into
Vista's Inbox and SentItems folders using Windows Explorer, they will not be
visible. You'll have to open those folders directly in Windows Explorer to
view those faxes.
Windows Easy Transfer doesn't seem to handle faxes either. They might
develop a power toy that will allows users to transfer faxes manually. We'll
have to wait and see.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:CF69F9E6-9538-4E27-8A79-8354282B6DE6@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your help!!! Will look forward to hearing from you...
> --
> Donald Mills
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> The method you are using is the correct one (and the only one). Why it
>> isn't
>> working with Vista I don't know. I'll see if I can reproduce it when I
>> have
>> some time and bug it directly with the developers.
>> --
>> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message newsE76F0F5-A4DA-4DA6-8C70-42FB7B582EBD@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the note back. File association for .tif files is MS Office
>> > Document Imaging. Found that in CP>Default Programs>Set Associations.
>> > The
>> > faxes I do with Vista fax are viewable. The historical files from WinXP
>> > Fax,
>> > just last week, are not.
>> >
>> > Yep. Have unhidden files and folders. Have given myself every
>> > permissions
>> > I
>> > can find. Because AutoCAD LT 2007 will not open/run with User Account
>> > Control
>> > (UAC) running, I have UAC turned off.
>> >
>> > Would it be helpful to attach a file from each Fax program? Is there
>> > some
>> > extra "something" the Vista Fax files have that the WinXP files don't?
>> >
>> > Lastly, seems like an import function is either missing or needed. Or I
>> > can't find it if there is one. WinXP Fax has it. That's how I always
>> > put
>> > the
>> > files back when I had to reformat and reinstall in WinXP.
>> >
>> > THanks again for your help!!!
>> > --
>> > Donald Mills
>> >
>> >
>> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Let me look into this. It takes some unhiding of files and special
>> >> permissions even to expose and access those folders. I assume you have
>> >> done
>> >> that. Also what is your file association for TIF files?
>> >> --
>> >> Russ Valentine
>> >> [MVP-Outlook]
>> >> "Mills Architect" <MillsArchitect@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:6B91A7C2-2045-4EF7-8A6A-8F1B2B582520@microsoft.com...
>> >> > OK. I have started to copy the files to the Documents\Fax folder.
>> >> > However,
>> >> > there's only the folders for Drafts, Inbox, and Personal Pages. No
>> >> > Sent
>> >> > folder. And I've tried sending and they end up in the MSFax area
>> >> > (see
>> >> > below).
>> >> > If you open Vista Fax, go to Fax Settings\Advanced, there's a button
>> >> > to
>> >> > change the archive folder location, which is
>> >> > c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows
>> >> > NT\MSFax. That location has folders called ActivityLog, Common
>> >> > Coverpages,
>> >> > Inbox, Queue, SentItems, VirtualInbox.
>> >> >
>> >> > Aside from the \Fax folder having only [3] folders and the \MSFax
>> >> > folder
>> >> > having [6] folders, I have copied some sample WinXP Fax documents to
>> >> > both
>> >> > the
>> >> > \Fax\Inbox and \MSFax\Inbox and \MSFax\SentItems. None of the WinXP
>> >> > are
>> >> > shown
>> >> > in Vista Fax.
>> >> >
>> >> > I know there was a function in WinXP Fax that imported the files,
>> >> > not
>> >> > just
>> >> > copy. I have a feeling that this is what is needed here. Straight
>> >> > copy
>> >> > just
>> >> > doesn't seem to be working.
>> >> >
>> >> > Am I wrong? Would be great. Thoughts?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Donald Mills
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mills Architect" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I have used the fax function in Windows XP for years. I routinely
>> >> >> backup
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> sent and received files. I would like to import these backed up
>> >> >> files
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> Vista Fax but cannot figure out where they should be copied. It
>> >> >> appears
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> should be c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WindowsNT\MSFax\Inbox or
>> >> >> SentItems.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> have copied my old file to these folders, but they are not visible
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> Fax.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What am I doing wrong? What setting is not set? I can see the
>> >> >> backed
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> .tif
>> >> >> files. They open in the viewer. The faxes I've sent and received in
>> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> Fax
>> >> >> are viewable in Vista Fax. HELP!!!
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Donald Mills
>> >>
>>