I need help with Vista/XP an Printing

I truly hope someone can help. I have been spending the last two day in this
discussion group trying to find some answer.
Here Goes:

I have a new Toshiba Laptop with Vista on it. My other 2 computers are
running XP I have a Lexmark Z8350 all in one Printer. Now my other 2
computer work fine file shareing and using the same printer. Over my Linksys
Router.

I can don't make my new laptop work with my network using XP nor can I
Print/share files.

I hope someone can help walk me thru the steps to make all of my computer
work.

Thank you in advance.

Let's start at the beginning. Can the new Vista notebook even 'see' the 2
XP PCs? Are they all in the same Workgroup?
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows

"Ric Sterling" <RicSterling@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6A328EB5-A271-489A-8002-74D1FC1E7F09@microsoft.com...
>I truly hope someone can help. I have been spending the last two day in
>this
> discussion group trying to find some answer.
> Here Goes:
>
> I have a new Toshiba Laptop with Vista on it. My other 2 computers are
> running XP I have a Lexmark Z8350 all in one Printer. Now my other 2
> computer work fine file shareing and using the same printer. Over my
> Linksys
> Router.
>
> I can don't make my new laptop work with my network using XP nor can I
> Print/share files.
>
> I hope someone can help walk me thru the steps to make all of my computer
> work.
>
> Thank you in advance.

Thank you for your respondes: Yes Cari, the same Workgroup has the same name.

Here is the Kicker--I have internet access, and after doing somethings
suggested to me by other MVP's I can now share files. But I am still not
able to use the Printer.

I have done alot of things: Disable Firewalls. down loaded Drivers from
Lexmark.com for the XP computer, and the Vista computer. Plus a few other
things.

Cari or anyone I sincerely hope someone out there can Help me?

"Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Let's start at the beginning. Can the new Vista notebook even 'see' the 2
> XP PCs? Are they all in the same Workgroup?
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
> http://www.coribright.com/windows
>
> "Ric Sterling" <RicSterling@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6A328EB5-A271-489A-8002-74D1FC1E7F09@microsoft.com...
> >I truly hope someone can help. I have been spending the last two day in
> >this
> > discussion group trying to find some answer.
> > Here Goes:
> >
> > I have a new Toshiba Laptop with Vista on it. My other 2 computers are
> > running XP I have a Lexmark Z8350 all in one Printer. Now my other 2
> > computer work fine file shareing and using the same printer. Over my
> > Linksys
> > Router.
> >
> > I can don't make my new laptop work with my network using XP nor can I
> > Print/share files.
> >
> > I hope someone can help walk me thru the steps to make all of my computer
> > work.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
>
>

This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
system. Here's the article URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
--
Birk Binnard
http://www.birkbinnard.com

I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in wireless
network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop. File
sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.

I read everything regarding print sharing in
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though I had
followed each step, no printing occurred.

This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open printer, and
pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2. print a text
document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems (from
watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in the
opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print job name
and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.

So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network but not
the real data for printing.

Can anyone help?

"Birk Binnard" wrote:

> This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
> Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
> system. Here's the article URL:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> --
> Birk Binnard
> http://www.birkbinnard.com
>

John: Wow I know the feeling I have been to that ^&*%^&*(%$$%^%^ in link
above 7 (count them), times. and followed these instruction to the letter.

And Guess what MVP'S, AND all the Super IT's out there. IT DOES NOT WORK!!!

"John C." wrote:

> I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in wireless
> network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop. File
> sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.
>
> I read everything regarding print sharing in
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
> Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though I had
> followed each step, no printing occurred.
>
> This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open printer, and
> pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2. print a text
> document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems (from
> watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in the
> opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print job name
> and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.
>
> So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network but not
> the real data for printing.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> "Birk Binnard" wrote:
>
> > This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
> > Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
> > system. Here's the article URL:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > --
> > Birk Binnard
> > http://www.birkbinnard.com
> >

"Ric Sterling" wrote:

> John: Wow I know the feeling I have been to that ^&*%^&*(%$$%^%^ in link
> above 7 (count them), times. and followed these instruction to the letter.
>
> And Guess what MVP'S, AND all the Super IT's out there. IT DOES NOT WORK!!!
>
> "John C." wrote:
>
> > I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in wireless
> > network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop. File
> > sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.
> >
> > I read everything regarding print sharing in
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
> > Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though I had
> > followed each step, no printing occurred.
> >
> > This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open printer, and
> > pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2. print a text
> > document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems (from
> > watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in the
> > opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print job name
> > and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.
> >
> > So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network but not
> > the real data for printing.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > "Birk Binnard" wrote:
> >
> > > This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
> > > Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
> > > system. Here's the article URL:
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > > --
> > > Birk Binnard
> > > http://www.birkbinnard.com
> > >


Hi,

I am right at this point myself.

Vista Laptop trying to print on a Lexmark attached to a Windows XP PC across
a wireless LAN.

Can see the printers on the Windows XP PC from VISTA and even see the print
queue - but can't print to the printer from Vista.
Like the respondents - have tried everything on the MS page and a few other
things , like adding UDP ports etc.. but no progress.

Thought that it might be a firewall problem and so disabled tat on both
machines - but again nothing changed.

Allan you got that Right....the only reason I don't dump this Vista, is that
it would void my warranty.

Here is the Kicker...Broke down and call the Geek Squad...(geek sqeeks)
they came out...LOL and guess what....thats right .... they spent 2hr's on
it and coold not get it working either...NO CLue...And guess what they said
"it could be the Mother Board"....lol MY GOD....

So I sink slowly into madness, while I know Vista Will WOW me....


"Allan" wrote:

>
>
> "Ric Sterling" wrote:
>
> > John: Wow I know the feeling I have been to that ^&*%^&*(%$$%^%^ in link
> > above 7 (count them), times. and followed these instruction to the letter.
> >
> > And Guess what MVP'S, AND all the Super IT's out there. IT DOES NOT WORK!!!
> >
> > "John C." wrote:
> >
> > > I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in wireless
> > > network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop. File
> > > sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.
> > >
> > > I read everything regarding print sharing in
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
> > > Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though I had
> > > followed each step, no printing occurred.
> > >
> > > This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open printer, and
> > > pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2. print a text
> > > document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems (from
> > > watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in the
> > > opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print job name
> > > and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.
> > >
> > > So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network but not
> > > the real data for printing.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > "Birk Binnard" wrote:
> > >
> > > > This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
> > > > Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
> > > > system. Here's the article URL:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > > > --
> > > > Birk Binnard
> > > > http://www.birkbinnard.com
> > > >
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am right at this point myself.
>
> Vista Laptop trying to print on a Lexmark attached to a Windows XP PC across
> a wireless LAN.
>
> Can see the printers on the Windows XP PC from VISTA and even see the print
> queue - but can't print to the printer from Vista.
> Like the respondents - have tried everything on the MS page and a few other
> things , like adding UDP ports etc.. but no progress.
>
> Thought that it might be a firewall problem and so disabled tat on both
> machines - but again nothing changed.

Hi Ric,

You know - I am beginning to think that although lots of people are having
this problem... it might actually be a Lexmark problem.
Here's why.
I connected an old HO Deskjet812 to one of the Windows XP Pc's and guess
what... the Vista Laptop works over the wireless network!

No problems with loading the drivers to the Vista Laptop.. nothing like have
to connect a local port with \\computer_name\printer_name or alter IRSstacks
- no problems at all. I have emailed Lexmark and will await their response
with interest!
Vista is so unhelpful though - this may still be the cause and certaoinly
lots of other people can testify to that.

Allan

"Ric Sterling" wrote:

> Allan you got that Right....the only reason I don't dump this Vista, is that
> it would void my warranty.
>
> Here is the Kicker...Broke down and call the Geek Squad...(geek sqeeks)
> they came out...LOL and guess what....thats right .... they spent 2hr's on
> it and coold not get it working either...NO CLue...And guess what they said
> "it could be the Mother Board"....lol MY GOD....
>
> So I sink slowly into madness, while I know Vista Will WOW me....
>
>
> "Allan" wrote:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > I am right at this point myself.
> >
> > Vista Laptop trying to print on a Lexmark attached to a Windows XP PC across
> > a wireless LAN.
> >
> > Can see the printers on the Windows XP PC from VISTA and even see the print
> > queue - but can't print to the printer from Vista.
> > Like the respondents - have tried everything on the MS page and a few other
> > things , like adding UDP ports etc.. but no progress.
> >
> > Thought that it might be a firewall problem and so disabled tat on both
> > machines - but again nothing changed.
> >
> >
> > "Ric Sterling" wrote:
> >
> > > John: Wow I know the feeling I have been to that ^&*%^&*(%$$%^%^ in link
> > > above 7 (count them), times. and followed these instruction to the letter.
> > >
> > > And Guess what MVP'S, AND all the Super IT's out there. IT DOES NOT WORK!!!
> > >
> > > "John C." wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in wireless
> > > > network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop. File
> > > > sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.
> > > >
> > > > I read everything regarding print sharing in
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
> > > > Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though I had
> > > > followed each step, no printing occurred.
> > > >
> > > > This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open printer, and
> > > > pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2. print a text
> > > > document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems (from
> > > > watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in the
> > > > opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print job name
> > > > and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.
> > > >
> > > > So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network but not
> > > > the real data for printing.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help?
> > > >
> > > > "Birk Binnard" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
> > > > > Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my old XP
> > > > > system. Here's the article URL:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > > > > --
> > > > > Birk Binnard
> > > > > http://www.birkbinnard.com
> > > > >
> >
> >

Allan

If there are drivers available, stuff works no problem.. drivers are
produced by the hardware manufacturers.. some are doing a better job that
others..


"Allan" <Allan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:061721F1-4755-4E1D-B0F5-A1BBDFD9CC19@microsoft.com...
> Hi Ric,
>
> You know - I am beginning to think that although lots of people are having
> this problem... it might actually be a Lexmark problem.
> Here's why.
> I connected an old HO Deskjet812 to one of the Windows XP Pc's and guess
> what... the Vista Laptop works over the wireless network!
>
> No problems with loading the drivers to the Vista Laptop.. nothing like
> have
> to connect a local port with \\computer_name\printer_name or alter
> IRSstacks
> - no problems at all. I have emailed Lexmark and will await their response
> with interest!
> Vista is so unhelpful though - this may still be the cause and certaoinly
> lots of other people can testify to that.
>
> Allan
>
> "Ric Sterling" wrote:
>
>> Allan you got that Right....the only reason I don't dump this Vista, is
>> that
>> it would void my warranty.
>>
>> Here is the Kicker...Broke down and call the Geek Squad...(geek sqeeks)
>> they came out...LOL and guess what....thats right .... they spent 2hr's
>> on
>> it and coold not get it working either...NO CLue...And guess what they
>> said
>> "it could be the Mother Board"....lol MY GOD....
>>
>> So I sink slowly into madness, while I know Vista Will WOW me....
>>
>>
>> "Allan" wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am right at this point myself.
>> >
>> > Vista Laptop trying to print on a Lexmark attached to a Windows XP PC
>> > across
>> > a wireless LAN.
>> >
>> > Can see the printers on the Windows XP PC from VISTA and even see the
>> > print
>> > queue - but can't print to the printer from Vista.
>> > Like the respondents - have tried everything on the MS page and a few
>> > other
>> > things , like adding UDP ports etc.. but no progress.
>> >
>> > Thought that it might be a firewall problem and so disabled tat on both
>> > machines - but again nothing changed.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ric Sterling" wrote:
>> >
>> > > John: Wow I know the feeling I have been to that ^&*%^&*(%$$%^%^ in
>> > > link
>> > > above 7 (count them), times. and followed these instruction to the
>> > > letter.
>> > >
>> > > And Guess what MVP'S, AND all the Super IT's out there. IT DOES NOT
>> > > WORK!!!
>> > >
>> > > "John C." wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'm having a problem similar to Ric's. Documents on Vista laptop in
>> > > > wireless
>> > > > network with XP desktop will not print to LTP printer on desktop.
>> > > > File
>> > > > sharing between the two works fine, access of internet works fine.
>> > > >
>> > > > I read everything regarding print sharing in
>> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx.
>> > > > Especially noting the heading, "Accessing a shared printer;" though
>> > > > I had
>> > > > followed each step, no printing occurred.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is what does happen: 1. on XP desktop with printer, open
>> > > > printer, and
>> > > > pause printer (so that print jobs queue up but don't print); 2.
>> > > > print a text
>> > > > document from, say, Notepad, on the Vista notebook and it seems
>> > > > (from
>> > > > watching the laptop monitor) to print; 3. the print job shows up in
>> > > > the
>> > > > opened printer queue on the XP desktop; 4. right click on the print
>> > > > job name
>> > > > and select properties which shows that the job size is zero bytes.
>> > > >
>> > > > So an empty print job is being sent and received over the network
>> > > > but not
>> > > > the real data for printing.
>> > > >
>> > > > Can anyone help?
>> > > >
>> > > > "Birk Binnard" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > This KB article explains it all. I used the steps in the Printer
>> > > > > Sharing section to successfully share my LaserJet 2500 with my
>> > > > > old XP
>> > > > > system. Here's the article URL:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Birk Binnard
>> > > > > http://www.birkbinnard.com
>> > > > >
>> >
>> >
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/