HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
their coffersm
The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!

Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
Chris Smith
Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

ms has nothing to do with providing drivers for your printers.
its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers for the older stuff.



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
their coffersm
The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!

Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
Chris Smith
Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

I remember when XP came out, it took HP about 5 months before the new xp
drivers came out... If you go to their web site, they will show what Vista
drivers to install for your printer.....I figure another couple of months
before they start to get new drivers out....

"Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
> their coffersm
> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
> of balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
>
> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
> Chris Smith
> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
wrote:


HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
if I followed the plans they had in mind????



>its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers for the older stuff.
>
>
>
>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
>
>
>
> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
> their coffersm
> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
> balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
>
> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
> Chris Smith
> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

LOL.. way to go.. you did as they expected and hoped.. well. almost as the
expected and hoped..

How is the Canon performing?

<dmrowley@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:lvom239ap84tqhhnccl9qne2atldnkftcm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
> me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
> Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
> if I followed the plans they had in mind????
>
>
>
>>its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have
>>produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers
>>for the older stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
>> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
>> swiftlyswollen
>> their coffersm
>> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers
>> that
>> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
>> of
>> balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
>>
>> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
>> Chris Smith
>> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

So far,, so good.

The printing quality is excellent, and after working with Mr Hamrick,
the scanner works with Vuescan (www.hamrick.com). The scan quality is
very good. I like being able to make copies without having to use
software, etc. Plus the cartridges are only around $12 each. If the
printhead lasts like my old Canon S600 did, I wont have to worry about
it clogging for about 5 years. By that time, I'll throw it away and
buy something new.

Good Bye and Good Riddence to Epson and HP !!

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:34:34 -0400, "Mike Hall - MS MVP"
<mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:

>LOL.. way to go.. you did as they expected and hoped.. well. almost as the
>expected and hoped..
>
>How is the Canon performing?
>
><dmrowley@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:lvom239ap84tqhhnccl9qne2atldnkftcm@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
>> me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
>> Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
>> if I followed the plans they had in mind????
>>
>>
>>
>>>its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have
>>>produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers
>>>for the older stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
>>> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
>>> swiftlyswollen
>>> their coffersm
>>> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers
>>> that
>>> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
>>> of
>>> balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
>>>
>>> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
>>> Chris Smith
>>> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

That's fine Ric, if your HP Printer can use a generic PS5 or PS6 driver! My
HP LJ 1020, which is less than one year old, has it's own propriatory print
driver, the XP version of which refuses to install in Vista. So I have a
pretty new LaserJet Printer sitting doing nothing, except being a
paperweight, until HP get their act together and release Vista compatible
drivers!

As for going out and buying a new printer, this very same model line is
still being sold by HP today, it's not as if it's an obsolete model! You can
walk into any computer store and pick up the same LaserJet 1020 Printer
today and still not get drives for the latest OS from Microsoft! Again what
was HP doing last year when Vista was in Public Beta? It's not as if the OS
hasn't been around for long enough to be available to HP's developers to use
for developing compatible drivers! That's at lease one reason MS released
Beta versions of the OS so that 3rd party Hardware and Software companies
could get their hands on the code to start developing compatible drivers and
software!

If Canon can release drivers for their printers within days of the launch of
Vista, why can't HP?!?!? Did HP just ignore the impending launch of Vista
until it was actually released, or what? It will certainly make me think
twice about investing in any sort of HP kit in the future.

I do also have an HP ScanJet 3500c flatbed scanner, which HP, in their
corporate wisdom, have decided in too obsolete to both about. They have
decided not to develop a full featured scanner driver for this model, though
they have released what they call a 'basic' driver that at least allows
basic TWAIN scanning in Vista, but a lot of the tweaking of the scanner is
missing in this driver completely. Also the buttons on the front of the
scanner no longer do anything! Again I'm less than impressed by HP, the
scanner is only just 3 years old and is in perfectly good condition and
still works excellently, so I would expect it to work for at least another 3
to 5 years before it needs replacement! But curtesy of HP, it's now pretty
much obsolete!

From another miffed HP customer!

Jonathan.


"Ric" <LegolasV@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jZutjGhHHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I remember when XP came out, it took HP about 5 months before the new xp
>drivers came out... If you go to their web site, they will show what Vista
>drivers to install for your printer.....I figure another couple of months
>before they start to get new drivers out....
>
> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
> news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
>> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
>> swiftlyswollen their coffersm
>> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
>> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
>> of balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
>>
>> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
>> Chris Smith
>> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net
>

My first printer was an Epson, and that was way back in 1981 (dot matrix).
Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and haven't been bitchy at all.

Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of hardware.

Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.

No drivers, mailing support back and forth, waiting and waiting,
but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons up&running.

I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking computers after all.

Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take the pain without tears!

Mr. Sunhome from Norway

Sunhome, go to the Epson site and for the scanner, download the
epson12180.exe file. I have the same scanner and in Vista ulitmate 64, that
driver is running ok. I would uninstall all the other drivers, unplug the
scanner first, then reboot, install the drivers and then plug the scanner
back in. hope this helps for you.

"Sunhome" <Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> My first printer was an Epson, and that was way back in 1981 (dot
> matrix).
> Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner
> and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and
> haven't been bitchy at all.
>
> Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of
> hardware.
>
> Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
> When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.
>
> No drivers, mailing support back and forth, waiting and waiting,
> but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons
> up&running.
>
> I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware
> company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking
> computers after all.
>
> Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
> We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it
> now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take the pain without
> tears!
>
> Mr. Sunhome from Norway
>
>
> --
> Sunhome

On May 3, 8:00 am, "Ric" <Legol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sunhome, go to the Epson site and for the scanner, download the
> epson12180.exe file. I have the same scanner and in Vista ulitmate 64, that
> driver is running ok. I would uninstall all the other drivers, unplug the
> scanner first, then reboot, install the drivers and then plug the scannerbackin. hope this helps for you.
>
> "Sunhome" <Sunhome.2pz...@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>
> news:Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > My first printer was an Epson, and that was waybackin 1981 (dot
> > matrix).
> > Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner
> > and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and
> > haven't been bitchy at all.
>
> > Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of
> > hardware.
>
> > Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
> > When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.
>
> > No drivers, mailing supportbackand forth, waiting and waiting,
> > but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons
> > up&running.
>
> > I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware
> > company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking
> > computers after all.
>
> > Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
> > We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it
> > now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take thepainwithout
> > tears!
>
> > Mr. Sunhome from Norway
>
> > --
> > Sunhome- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dear
I ran into your message quite accidentally while researching about
some details on 'Back Pain' and thought of sharing some of my
findings.
I've read at 'http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/Health-
living/Back-pain/index.asp'
that Chronic back pain is commonly described as deep, aching, dull or
burning pain in one area of the back or traveling down the legs.
Patients may experience numbness, tingling, burning, or a pins-and-
needles type sensation in the legs.Chronic back pain tends to last a
long time, and is not relieved by standard types of medical
management. It may result from a previous injury long since healed, or
it may have an ongoing cause, such as nerve damage or arthritis.
I hope the above is of some help to you as well. Regards, Sherrybove