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How mutch longer must we wait?

  1. #1


    Christopher Smith Guest

    How mutch longer must we wait?

    HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
    their coffersm
    The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
    have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
    balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!

    Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    Chris Smith
    Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net


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  3. #2


    mikeyhsd Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    ms has nothing to do with providing drivers for your printers.
    its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers for the older stuff.



    mikeyhsd@comcast.net



    "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
    their coffersm
    The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
    have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
    balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!

    Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    Chris Smith
    Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #3


    Ric Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    I remember when XP came out, it took HP about 5 months before the new xp
    drivers came out... If you go to their web site, they will show what Vista
    drivers to install for your printer.....I figure another couple of months
    before they start to get new drivers out....

    "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
    news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    > HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
    > their coffersm
    > The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
    > have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
    > of balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
    >
    > Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    > Chris Smith
    > Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net



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  5. #4


    dmrowley@nospam.com Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
    wrote:


    HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
    me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
    Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
    if I followed the plans they had in mind????



    >its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers for the older stuff.
    >
    >
    >
    >mikeyhsd@comcast.net
    >
    >
    >
    > "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    > HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has swiftlyswollen
    > their coffersm
    > The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
    > have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces of
    > balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
    >
    > Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    > Chris Smith
    > Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #5


    Mike Hall - MS MVP Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    LOL.. way to go.. you did as they expected and hoped.. well. almost as the
    expected and hoped..

    How is the Canon performing?

    <dmrowley@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:lvom239ap84tqhhnccl9qne2atldnkftcm@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    > HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
    > me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
    > Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
    > if I followed the plans they had in mind????
    >
    >
    >
    >>its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have
    >>produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers
    >>for the older stuff.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
    >> news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    >> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
    >> swiftlyswollen
    >> their coffersm
    >> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers
    >> that
    >> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
    >> of
    >> balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
    >>
    >> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    >> Chris Smith
    >> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net


    --


    Mike Hall
    MS MVP Windows Shell/User
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/




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  7. #6


    dmrowley@nospam.com Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    So far,, so good.

    The printing quality is excellent, and after working with Mr Hamrick,
    the scanner works with Vuescan (www.hamrick.com). The scan quality is
    very good. I like being able to make copies without having to use
    software, etc. Plus the cartridges are only around $12 each. If the
    printhead lasts like my old Canon S600 did, I wont have to worry about
    it clogging for about 5 years. By that time, I'll throw it away and
    buy something new.

    Good Bye and Good Riddence to Epson and HP !!

    On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:34:34 -0400, "Mike Hall - MS MVP"
    <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:

    >LOL.. way to go.. you did as they expected and hoped.. well. almost as the
    >expected and hoped..
    >
    >How is the Canon performing?
    >
    ><dmrowley@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >news:lvom239ap84tqhhnccl9qne2atldnkftcm@4ax.com...
    >> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:41:13 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> HP succeeded in getting me to buy a new printer, and Epson convinced
    >> me to buy a new scanner. I sold my HP Photosmart 7960 and Epson
    >> Perfection 1660 for $50 each and bought a Canon Pixma MP600. I wonder
    >> if I followed the plans they had in mind????
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>its hp trying to encourage you to buy a newer printer which they have
    >>>produced since vista was released so they do not have to update drivers
    >>>for the older stuff.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    >>> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
    >>> swiftlyswollen
    >>> their coffersm
    >>> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers
    >>> that
    >>> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
    >>> of
    >>> balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
    >>>
    >>> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    >>> Chris Smith
    >>> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #7


    Jonathan R. Portwood Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    That's fine Ric, if your HP Printer can use a generic PS5 or PS6 driver! My
    HP LJ 1020, which is less than one year old, has it's own propriatory print
    driver, the XP version of which refuses to install in Vista. So I have a
    pretty new LaserJet Printer sitting doing nothing, except being a
    paperweight, until HP get their act together and release Vista compatible
    drivers!

    As for going out and buying a new printer, this very same model line is
    still being sold by HP today, it's not as if it's an obsolete model! You can
    walk into any computer store and pick up the same LaserJet 1020 Printer
    today and still not get drives for the latest OS from Microsoft! Again what
    was HP doing last year when Vista was in Public Beta? It's not as if the OS
    hasn't been around for long enough to be available to HP's developers to use
    for developing compatible drivers! That's at lease one reason MS released
    Beta versions of the OS so that 3rd party Hardware and Software companies
    could get their hands on the code to start developing compatible drivers and
    software!

    If Canon can release drivers for their printers within days of the launch of
    Vista, why can't HP?!?!? Did HP just ignore the impending launch of Vista
    until it was actually released, or what? It will certainly make me think
    twice about investing in any sort of HP kit in the future.

    I do also have an HP ScanJet 3500c flatbed scanner, which HP, in their
    corporate wisdom, have decided in too obsolete to both about. They have
    decided not to develop a full featured scanner driver for this model, though
    they have released what they call a 'basic' driver that at least allows
    basic TWAIN scanning in Vista, but a lot of the tweaking of the scanner is
    missing in this driver completely. Also the buttons on the front of the
    scanner no longer do anything! Again I'm less than impressed by HP, the
    scanner is only just 3 years old and is in perfectly good condition and
    still works excellently, so I would expect it to work for at least another 3
    to 5 years before it needs replacement! But curtesy of HP, it's now pretty
    much obsolete!

    From another miffed HP customer!

    Jonathan.


    "Ric" <LegolasV@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23jZutjGhHHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >I remember when XP came out, it took HP about 5 months before the new xp
    >drivers came out... If you go to their web site, they will show what Vista
    >drivers to install for your printer.....I figure another couple of months
    >before they start to get new drivers out....
    >
    > "Christopher Smith" <princesofmaine@wildmoo.net> wrote in message
    > news:8837A166-87F8-475B-A953-7806F0430320@microsoft.com...
    >> HP and MS have left us swinging in the wind after Vista has
    >> swiftlyswollen their coffersm
    >> The saga of promised drivers and updatesfor legacy and new printers that
    >> have not come forth despite us spending money for these expencive pieces
    >> of balky hard ware are often now paper weight/s!
    >>
    >> Get withit HP and MS before you all will follow Carly Fiorina!
    >> Chris Smith
    >> Princes of Maine @wildmoo.net

    >




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  9. #8



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    My first printer was an Epson, and that was way back in 1981 (dot matrix).
    Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and haven't been bitchy at all.

    Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of hardware.

    Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
    When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.

    No drivers, mailing support back and forth, waiting and waiting,
    but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons up&running.

    I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking computers after all.

    Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
    We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take the pain without tears!

    Mr. Sunhome from Norway

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  10. #9


    Ric Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    Sunhome, go to the Epson site and for the scanner, download the
    epson12180.exe file. I have the same scanner and in Vista ulitmate 64, that
    driver is running ok. I would uninstall all the other drivers, unplug the
    scanner first, then reboot, install the drivers and then plug the scanner
    back in. hope this helps for you.

    "Sunhome" <Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
    news:Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net...
    >
    > My first printer was an Epson, and that was way back in 1981 (dot
    > matrix).
    > Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner
    > and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and
    > haven't been bitchy at all.
    >
    > Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of
    > hardware.
    >
    > Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
    > When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.
    >
    > No drivers, mailing support back and forth, waiting and waiting,
    > but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons
    > up&running.
    >
    > I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware
    > company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking
    > computers after all.
    >
    > Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
    > We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it
    > now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take the pain without
    > tears!
    >
    > Mr. Sunhome from Norway
    >
    >
    > --
    > Sunhome



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  11. #10


    sherry Guest

    Re: How mutch longer must we wait?

    On May 3, 8:00 am, "Ric" <Legol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Sunhome, go to the Epson site and for the scanner, download the
    > epson12180.exe file. I have the same scanner and in Vista ulitmate 64, that
    > driver is running ok. I would uninstall all the other drivers, unplug the
    > scanner first, then reboot, install the drivers and then plug the scannerbackin. hope this helps for you.
    >
    > "Sunhome" <Sunhome.2pz...@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
    >
    > news:Sunhome.2pzh84@no-mx.forums.net...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > My first printer was an Epson, and that was waybackin 1981 (dot
    > > matrix).
    > > Many printers since that, but I'm engaged with Epson again, bot scanner
    > > and printer, and I love them dearly. Has always made me happy, and
    > > haven't been bitchy at all.

    >
    > > Scanner is 4870 Photo and printer is Photo 950. Great pieces of
    > > hardware.

    >
    > > Now I'm running Vista 64 and have neither operational.
    > > When XP was launched, I was early, and with exactly the same problem.

    >
    > > No drivers, mailing supportbackand forth, waiting and waiting,
    > > but eventually there was light in the tunnel, and my epsons
    > > up&running.

    >
    > > I think too many people are flaming either Microsoft or a hardware
    > > company when something are not working like clockwork. We're talking
    > > computers after all.

    >
    > > Remember how millions waited for XP SP2.
    > > We're not running SP1 on Vista yet, but you want it, and you want it
    > > now... like me. If we want to play ball, we better take thepainwithout
    > > tears!

    >
    > > Mr. Sunhome from Norway

    >
    > > --
    > > Sunhome- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -


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