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Old 06-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
DB


 
 

Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

I apologize if this question has been asked before but what is the trick to
support Vista 64 bit print drivers and queues from a "legacy" Windows Server
2003 R2 32bit print server?

Is there a “how-to” document from Microsoft?

I need to be able to allow 64bit Vista users to just double click a printer
on 2003 (32bit) and have the queue and driver seamless create/download just
like we do with XP 32bit.

Sound easy but I cannot get the drivers to upload to the 2003 print server
for Vista x64.

Any ideas?


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Old 06-13-2007   #2 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

Are you using the inbox x64 Vista drivers or vendor drivers?

When first selecting the driver, check x64, then point to the inf file with
the x64 drivers. Inbox and vendor drivers will need to also copy the x64
pscript5 or unidrv files to the server. These files are not normally
included with vendor drivers since they ship with the OS and you will be
prompted for the files during the driver install.

The easiest way to do this is add the drivers remotely to the Server 2003
machine using a Vista x64 client logged on with a user that has admin rights
on the print server.

Launch printmanagement.msc and add the print server to the management
snapin. Expand the server node and add the driver in the Drivers node.

the x64 driver name must match the x86 driver name. If you are using some
drivers from Server 2003, HP changed several of their driver names in Vista
so they don't match.

What driver are you using if not inbox?



--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

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"DB" <DB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I apologize if this question has been asked before but what is the trick to
> support Vista 64 bit print drivers and queues from a "legacy" Windows
> Server
> 2003 R2 32bit print server?
>
> Is there a "how-to" document from Microsoft?
>
> I need to be able to allow 64bit Vista users to just double click a
> printer
> on 2003 (32bit) and have the queue and driver seamless create/download
> just
> like we do with XP 32bit.
>
> Sound easy but I cannot get the drivers to upload to the 2003 print server
> for Vista x64.
>
> Any ideas?
>



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Old 06-14-2007   #3 (permalink)
DB


 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64

thank you Alan

I think this might work but I also think we will just go ahead and upgrade
our Print servers to 2003 R2 64bit. We run them in VMware so it is an easy
transition.

I guess now my new question is is there any issues having a 64bit print
server supporting mostly 32 bit clients?
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Old 06-14-2007   #4 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64

The driver support has come a long way since Microsoft rolled out our first
x64 print server. Drivers were the main issue.


Printmig.exe does not recognize the x64 drivers. If you use this tool, the
printer information migrates but one has to install the x64 drivers on the
server and restart the spooler for the printers to show up.

x64 is a great print server platform. The server can handle a greater
client load and the jobs are processed quickly but I don't have any perf
data on this just experience.
--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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"DB" <DB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> thank you Alan
>
> I think this might work but I also think we will just go ahead and upgrade
> our Print servers to 2003 R2 64bit. We run them in VMware so it is an
> easy
> transition.
>
> I guess now my new question is is there any issues having a 64bit print
> server supporting mostly 32 bit clients?



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Old 09-30-2009   #5 (permalink)


Vista Business x64
 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

I am having trouble with this as well. I am running Vista Business 64 Bit trying to print to a shared hp Laserjet 1300 that is running on Windows server 2003. I have tried to load drivers from my machine using print manager, yada, yada, yada. My collegue is running 32 bit Vista and he can point and print to it. Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 09-30-2009   #6 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

Does the 32 bit driver use the same name as the 64 bit version of the print
driver?

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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"Hank Taylor" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> I am having trouble with this as well. I am running Vista Business 64
> Bit trying to print to a shared hp Laserjet 1300 that is running on
> Windows server 2003. I have tried to load drivers from my machine using
> print manager, yada, yada, yada. My collegue is running 32 bit Vista and
> he can point and print to it. Any help would be appreciated!
>
>
> --
> Hank Taylor

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Old 09-30-2009   #7 (permalink)


Vista Business x64
 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

Hi Alan,

Local Drivers..

Driver Name Environment Driver Version Provider Server Name
Microsoft XPS Document Writer Windows x64 0.0.0.0 Microsoft ANGEL-HANK (local)
Microsoft Shared Fax Driver Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000 Microsoft ANGEL-HANK (local)
HP Universal Printing PS Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP ANGEL-HANK (local)
HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP ANGEL-HANK (local)
HP Universal Printing PCL 5 Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP ANGEL-HANK (local)
hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5 Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000 Microsoft ANGEL-HANK (local)
HP Color LaserJet CP3525 PCL 6 Windows x64 61.82.61.41 HP ANGEL-HANK (local)
Amyuni Document Converter 300 Windows x64 0.0.0.0 ANGEL-HANK (local)
Amyuni Document Converter 2.51 Windows x64 0.0.0.0 ANGEL-HANK (local)
HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows NT x86 61.91.12.106 HP ANGEL-HANK (local)


Server Drivers...

river Name Environment Driver Version Provider Server Name
hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5 Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000 Microsoft ANGELSERVER
HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP ANGELSERVER
HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows NT x86 61.91.12.106 HP ANGELSERVER
Microsoft XPS Document Writer Windows NT x86 0.0.0.0 ANGELSERVER
hp LaserJet 3030 PCL 6 Windows NT x86 60.5.36.2 HP ANGELSERVER
hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5e Windows NT x86 60.5.17.2 Hewlett-Packard ANGELSERVER
HP Color LaserJet 3600 Windows NT x86 60.52.41.0 HP ANGELSERVER


I don't have the same names and have been having a difficult time loading what I need. I've even tried hubbing the USB for a direct connect, no luck.
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Old 10-01-2009   #8 (permalink)


Vista Business 32bit
 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

Hank -

Unless you have the original disk from the printer - and I'm guess it doesn't have drivers for Vista - you're best bet is going to be to switch to the universal print driver on the 1300.

It seems that the only 64-bit driver that HP is making available is the UPD - you can determine if PCL5, PCL6, or PS is the best for you.

If the driver names don't match, you can't install the 64-bit driver on the 32-bit system - it won't regonize it as a valid driver.

I know, I'm having the same problem with every one of my printers on my 32-bit Server 2003 systems (about 150 print servers, with an average of 6 printers per server!). All drivers installed are the original drivers from HP, and the only thing they offer for Vista and 64-bit systems is the UPD. I now have to remove and upgrade to the UPD for all of my systems......for about 3 dozen Vista and 64-bit users!
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Old 10-01-2009   #9 (permalink)


Vista Business x64
 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

Thanks,

I don't have the disk and I'm trying the UPD with no luck either. We have other Vista machines (32 bit) and they seem to be able to point and install. Not so with 64 bit!
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Old 10-02-2009   #10 (permalink)
Alan Morris [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Windows Server 2003 R2 32bit Print Server supporting Vista 64 bit

A Remote Procedure Call connection (RPC) is not going to work in this case
since the driver names do not match.

You have a couple quick options.

1) Install the x86 Vista driver for this device onto the print server and
install a new (or change the current queue to use the Vista driver but HP
does not recommend this) queue for the device. When the driver name
matches, the x64 Vista machine will install the local driver for the
connection.

2) Create a Local Port in the form \\printserver\printer where printer is
the share name (avoid using spaces in the share name ) on the x64 machine
and use this port for a Local Printer that uses the Vista x64 driver. This
basically just copies the formatted for printer data to the share as if you
had printed to file and copied the file to the print share.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
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http://support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Hank Taylor" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Local Drivers..
>
> Driver Name Environment Driver Version Provider Server Name
> Microsoft XPS Document Writer Windows x64 0.0.0.0 Microsoft
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> Microsoft Shared Fax Driver Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000
> Microsoft ANGEL-HANK (local)
> HP Universal Printing PS Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> HP Universal Printing PCL 5 Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5 Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000 Microsoft
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> HP Color LaserJet CP3525 PCL 6 Windows x64 61.82.61.41 HP
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> Amyuni Document Converter 300 Windows x64 0.0.0.0
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> Amyuni Document Converter 2.51 Windows x64 0.0.0.0
> ANGEL-HANK (local)
> HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows NT x86 61.91.12.106
> HP ANGEL-HANK (local)
>
>
> Server Drivers...
>
> river Name Environment Driver Version Provider Server Name
> hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5 Windows x64 6.0.6001.18000 Microsoft
> ANGELSERVER
> HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows x64 61.91.12.106 HP
> ANGELSERVER
> HP Universal Printing PCL 5 (v5.0) Windows NT x86 61.91.12.106
> HP ANGELSERVER
> Microsoft XPS Document Writer Windows NT x86 0.0.0.0
> ANGELSERVER
> hp LaserJet 3030 PCL 6 Windows NT x86 60.5.36.2 HP
> ANGELSERVER
> hp LaserJet 1300 PCL 5e Windows NT x86 60.5.17.2
> Hewlett-Packard ANGELSERVER
> HP Color LaserJet 3600 Windows NT x86 60.52.41.0 HP
> ANGELSERVER
>
>
> I don't have the same names and have been having a difficult time
> loading what I need. I've even tried hubbing the USB for a direct
> connect, no luck.
>
>
> --
> Hank Taylor

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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