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| Free space wiper for vista I have tried 101 different (so Called) free space wipers for vista and at all different levels of wiping, from 1 pass to 33 passes and nothing seems to work. After completeing a free space wipe, I run an undelete utility and lo and behold all of the files that I thought should have been erased are still there. Please tell me what I should do to totally erase deleted files. I am using vista home premium |
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista The fact that the file names can still be found doesn't mean that the files are retrievable. Have you actually tried to undelete one of those files? There are some complexities in NTFS that make it difficult to impossible to clean the file names the way many of these utilities do (or used to do) in FAT systems. -- "T5" <noanswer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F10BDE0A-5F74-4CB4-B97B-EADE90942988@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista I use the product called CyberScrub Privacy Suite. When I use it to eliminate deleted information, there are Wipe Options beyond simply wiping the free space; one of them is to "Scramble deleted files and folders properties"; another is to "Scramble system transactions log file (on NTFS drives only)". When I use all the options, my File Recovery application comes up empty, so I think the stuff is quite completely wiped. Perhaps you could explore whether your chosen file wipe program has these additional features. Incidentally, I am also using Vista Home Premium. Cheers... "T5" <noanswer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F10BDE0A-5F74-4CB4-B97B-EADE90942988@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista thanks guys that has helped me no end. I really don't want to buy another piece of crap like IOLO system mechanic 7 pro which claims to work with Vista but actually the delete part of search and recover actually doesn't work nor does the free space wiper of drive scrubber. "John Hanley" <jphanley@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eBo1PMmEIHA.3916@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista T5 wrote:
salesmen. It doesn't matter how many passes you do on a modern disk, variations in temperature mean that the head will probably miss the data. A competent adversary can easily get the data back anyway. If you want to destroy the data, destroy the drive (put a large nail through it, for example) Alun Harford | ||||||||||||
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista Alun Harford <devnull@xxxxxx> wrote:
increases the adversary's cost of retrieving your sensitive data. Charlie42 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista You have a few good answers but there an essential bit of information you have not given? What reason do you want to do this? For transferring a computer to another individual, typically given away or sold, the tools mentioned should do nicely. BUT, a very big BUT... How critical is it that the data never be retrieved? If you absolutely can not afford for the data to get out, you have only one option. You absolutely must NOT lose control of the drive until you physically destroy the platters on the drive. Other than that, the data can often be recovered but the cost grows fast and high depending on the method used to destroy the sensitive data. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org "T5" <noanswer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F10BDE0A-5F74-4CB4-B97B-EADE90942988@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista Thanks guys, So the word is that none of these data destroyer software packages actually destroys the data beyond recovery....like they claim to do? No, Jupiter I don't have anything that important that I need to totally obliterate I am just trying to understand if it is possible to use software to totally erase data and I think that my questions have been answered. "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uZrMqq3EIHA.4628@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista Any reputable wipe program with multiple over-writes in several patterns will make the data unrecoverable by any normal means. How recoverable it is beyond that - i.e by the best equipment in government labs is a matter or widespread rumor and conjecture. Over my many years in the IT field I most often saw it conjectured there is equipment which can recover data overwritten as many as 7 times and was never able to corroborate that with any authoritative information. The new rumor seems to now say 21 times. That seems extremely unlikely, but the truth is that no one really knows. Perhaps it's best to destroy a drive if there were data of critical importance to national security and it was likely to end up in a multi-million dollar government lab, but short of that it's overkill. "T5" <noanswer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:53C18E9D-0AD6-4768-9AA0-A75A0E4E943F@xxxxxx
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| Re: Free space wiper for vista GTS wrote:
move the drive head a fraction of a track. You don't even need to remove the disk from the physical drives. Any good data recovery house can do this commercially. Alun Harford | ||||||||||||
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