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| | Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is NOT find NIS 2008? TIA ![]() |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center What you might try is resetting WMI. I have had to do this several times in Vista, it seems like the SecCenter in Vista is buggy. What you do is this: Click on Start---All Programs---Accessories and right click on Command Prompt. Select "Run as Administrator" When the cmd window pops up you should be in the /windows/system32 directory. Type cd wbem Type or paste the following: net stop winmgmt rmdir /s /q repository net start winmgmt Exit the command window and bring up Security Center. It will inform you that the service has been turned off so click on the button presented to turn it back on. After a few minutes the Repository will be rebuilt and hopefully it will see NIS 2008. BTW, I also use NIS 2008 and loving it ![]() "howardavatar" <howardavatar@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:486F0D62-E3CF-415D-AFEC-DD7D0D7AC88E@xxxxxx Quote: > After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I > noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said > Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is NOT > find NIS 2008? > TIA ![]() |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote: Quote: > After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I > noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said > Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is NOT > find NIS 2008? using Norton's own uninstall tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 and get a refund ![]() As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before proceeding. While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to go to: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up. If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this: Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily http://www.revouninstaller.com/ and/or RegSeeker http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option. Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*; The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case, ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and remove associated files as well. Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions. http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption. Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509 On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second opinion" av scanner). BitDefender10 Free Edition http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html A-S applications (grab'em all). The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss. SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html Ad-Aware - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html Windows Defender - Free http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx Interesting reading: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about the actual threat." Some more useful applications: Spyware Blaster - Free http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Rootkit Revealer - Free http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...tRevealer.mspx Crap Cleaner - Free http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities uncheck "Windows Defender" CW Shredder - Free http://www.softpedia.com/get/Interne...Shredder.shtml You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0905.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx Jesper's Blog http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_joha...01/426921.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx "If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall." Vista Firewall Control http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ Good luck ![]() |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center "The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop the bashing and try to help the poster. Other programs have messed SecCenter up as well, either it is a bug or software writers haven't figured out to write the uninstall routines right for Vista yet. I have had to do this several times on different AV and firewall programs so it isn't Norton's fault. BTW, the SymNRT is supposed to be used only if the add/remove fails or if you want to clean up some more after a successful remove. It does NOT replace add/remove and using it as so will cause problems on future installs of other programs. Remove NIS via add/remove first and then run SymNRT. As far as comparisons go, NAV beats KAV on every performance test except bootup time: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-...ml?tag=nl.e724 Also NAV has a higher detection rate than KAV and NOD32 as of the last test at AV Comparatives: http://www.av-comparatives.org/index...paratives.html So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There are user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you how light Norton is now. "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message news:qomlf272eysg$.b6w5opoktjo0$.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote: > Quote: >> After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I >> noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said >> Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is >> NOT >> find NIS 2008? > The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it > using Norton's own uninstall tool > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039 > and get a refund ![]() > As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before > proceeding. > While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want > to > go to: > http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html > and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of > NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet > access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up. > If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this: > Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily > http://www.revouninstaller.com/ > and/or > RegSeeker > http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm > RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and > folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and > very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option. > Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*; > The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case, > ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by > typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and > remove associated files as well. > Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions. > http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt > > Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! > Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom > Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In > fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and > outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption. > > Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free > http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html > > Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition > http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident > Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) > > AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition > http://free.grisoft.com/ > > Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free > http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser > > ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free > http://www.eset.com/ > Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"? > http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509 > > On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second > opinion" av scanner). > BitDefender10 Free Edition > http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html > > A-S applications (grab'em all). > > The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and > oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that > cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple > products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what > another may miss. > > SuperAntispyware - Free > http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html > > Ad-Aware - Free > http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php > http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html > > Spybot Search & Destroy - Free > http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html > > Windows Defender - Free > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx > Interesting reading: > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html > "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects > changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about > the actual threat." > > Some more useful applications: > Spyware Blaster - Free > http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html > > Rootkit Revealer - Free > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...tRevealer.mspx > > Crap Cleaner - Free > http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ > If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities > uncheck "Windows Defender" > > CW Shredder - Free > http://www.softpedia.com/get/Interne...Shredder.shtml > > You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in > itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0905.mspx > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx > > Jesper's Blog > http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx > http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_joha...01/426921.aspx > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx > "If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already > compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what > you > ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a > gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without > doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why > outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it > doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall." > > Vista Firewall Control > http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ > > Good luck ![]() |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:00:15 -0500, midway wrote: Quote: > "The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you > basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop the > bashing and try to help the poster. Quote: > Other programs have messed SecCenter up as well, either it is a bug or software > writers haven't figured out to write the uninstall routines right for Vista yet. > I have had to do this several times on different AV and firewall programs so it > isn't Norton's fault. <snipped irrelevant drivel> Quote: > So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There are > user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than Symantec > Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you how > light Norton is now. Quote: > "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message > news:qomlf272eysg$.b6w5opoktjo0$.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote: >> Quote: >>> After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I >>> noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said >>> Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is >>> NOT find NIS 2008? >> The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc... |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here (and others of your ilk) proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. And it is clear you know nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the past when it was bloatware because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT correctly. And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel", you are aware that this is a VISTA forum and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. And I noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. It pretty much tells me you have all this typed down nice and neat and stored somewhere ready to cut and paste it when you see the word "Norton" (or any other AV you don't care for). Go search in other security forums. You will notice that other people have had this same problem with SecCenter even with the "irrevelant" AV's you mentioned. "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message news:r83mohw425oz.1ju9ntdj16pev.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:00:15 -0500, midway wrote: > Quote: >> "The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you >> basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop >> the >> bashing and try to help the poster. > Bashing? It is clear you haven't comprehend my message. Read again! > Quote: >> Other programs have messed SecCenter up as well, either it is a bug or >> software >> writers haven't figured out to write the uninstall routines right for >> Vista yet. >> I have had to do this several times on different AV and firewall programs >> so it >> isn't Norton's fault. > It is certainly not the fault of the makers of the OS! > > <snipped irrelevant drivel> > Quote: >> So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There >> are >> user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than >> Symantec >> Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you >> how >> light Norton is now. > Again, you do seem to have problems comprehending simple composed > messages. > Quote: >> "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message >> news:qomlf272eysg$.b6w5opoktjo0$.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote: >>> >>>> After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium >>>> I >>>> noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they >>>> said >>>> Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is >>>> NOT find NIS 2008? >>> >>> The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc... |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here (and others of your ilk) proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. And it is clear you know nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the past when it was bloatware because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT correctly. And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel", you are aware that this is a VISTA forum and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. And I noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. It pretty much tells me you have all this typed down nice and neat and stored somewhere ready to cut and paste it when you see the word "Norton" (or any other AV you don't care for). Go search in other security forums. You will notice that other people have had this same problem with SecCenter even with the "irrevelant" AV's you mentioned. "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message news:r83mohw425oz.1ju9ntdj16pev.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:00:15 -0500, midway wrote: > Quote: >> "The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you >> basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop >> the >> bashing and try to help the poster. > Bashing? It is clear you haven't comprehend my message. Read again! > Quote: >> Other programs have messed SecCenter up as well, either it is a bug or >> software >> writers haven't figured out to write the uninstall routines right for >> Vista yet. >> I have had to do this several times on different AV and firewall programs >> so it >> isn't Norton's fault. > It is certainly not the fault of the makers of the OS! > > <snipped irrelevant drivel> > Quote: >> So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There >> are >> user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than >> Symantec >> Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you >> how >> light Norton is now. > Again, you do seem to have problems comprehending simple composed > messages. > Quote: >> "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message >> news:qomlf272eysg$.b6w5opoktjo0$.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote: >>> >>>> After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium >>>> I >>>> noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they >>>> said >>>> Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is >>>> NOT find NIS 2008? >>> >>> The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc... |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:20:39 -0500, midway wrote: Quote: > Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here... Quote: > proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. Quote: > And it is clear you know nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the past > when it was bloatware because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT correctly. Quote: > And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel"... Quote: > ...you are aware that this is a VISTA forum... Quote: > and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. Quote: > And I noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. Quote: > It pretty much tells me you have all this typed down nice and neat and stored > somewhere ready to cut and paste it when you see the word "Norton" (or any other > AV you don't care for). in the dictionary). Quote: > Go search in other security forums. Quote: > You will notice that other people have had this same problem with SecCenter even > with the "irrevelant" AV's you mentioned. -- |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center I do comprehend more than you know especially by your responses. Such a shame... I did mention the proper use of SymNRT. It appears that you haven't comprehended what I said. Of course prejudice can cause blindness in these cases. You are no different than the others. Not important enough for me to waste any more time on. And I didn't need a "crib sheet" for this. I "rant" in real time. "Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message news:frtgm9ti9s4c.3oyvnkv14upo.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:20:39 -0500, midway wrote: > Quote: >> Yes, yes. I have seen your posts in here... > You may have seen it but you didn't comprehend. > Quote: >> proclaiming Norton is the source of all evil. > Huh? > Quote: >> And it is clear you know nothing of Norton except maybe using it in the >> past >> when it was bloatware because you didn't even know how to use SymNRT >> correctly. > Instead of ranting try to educate us, how about it? > Quote: >> And to comment on your "irrelevant drivel"... > You mean to comment on YOUR drivel! > Quote: >> ...you are aware that this is a VISTA forum... > Yes, I am. > Quote: >> and of course the poster already has Windows Defender. > Good. > Quote: >> And I noticed you mentioned NIS breaking XP. > Really, did I? > Quote: >> It pretty much tells me you have all this typed down nice and neat and >> stored >> somewhere ready to cut and paste it when you see the word "Norton" (or >> any other >> AV you don't care for). > Yes and no - "care for" is not the issue; Efficiency is! (Look up the word > in the dictionary). > Quote: >> Go search in other security forums. > No need; The retail version of Norton is a sorry apps. > Quote: >> You will notice that other people have had this same problem with >> SecCenter even >> with the "irrevelant" AV's you mentioned. > Oh well. > -- |
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| | Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:27:37 -0500, midway wrote: Quote: > I do comprehend more than you know especially by your responses. ![]() Quote: > Such a shame... Quote: > I did mention the proper use of SymNRT. It appears that you haven't > comprehended what I said. us, how about it?" Quote: > Of course prejudice can cause blindness in these cases. Quote: > You are no different than the others. ![]() Quote: > Not important enough for me to waste any more time on. Quote: > And I didn't need a "crib sheet" for this. Quote: > I "rant" in real time. ![]() -- |
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