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10-22-2007
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| | How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder Hi Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version but fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try to rename the file. I can change accounts and use the 'real administrator' account to do it, but I would like to be able to do so from my 'normal administrator' account - how can I do this? -- regards, Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-22-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version but >fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try to >rename the file. warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the task. If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to start it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and you should be able to do whatever you want from within that command prompt. -- You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. |
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10-22-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fofoh392amcqr4d5maakc01rtlkcdnpvcr@xxxxxx Quote: > In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" > <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version but >>fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try to >>rename the file. > What tool are you using? Normally Explorer will pop up a dialog > warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the task. > > If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to start > it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. > > Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command > prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and you > should be able to do whatever you want from within that command prompt. > > -- > You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. Just trying to use the standard Explorer delete/rename/copy/paste functions. But you mentioned UAC which I recently turned off - that must have been the culprit (or, to put it another way - I must be the culprit  -- regards, Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-23-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder Why are you trying to replace part of the operating system? Which DLL is this, and what are you trying to replace it with? -- Steve Riley steve.riley@xxxxxx http://blogs.technet.com/steriley http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OZWNmTLFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: > "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:fofoh392amcqr4d5maakc01rtlkcdnpvcr@xxxxxx Quote: >> In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" >> <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >>>Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version >>>but >>>fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try to >>>rename the file. >> What tool are you using? Normally Explorer will pop up a dialog >> warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the task. >> >> If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to start >> it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. >> >> Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command >> prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and you >> should be able to do whatever you want from within that command prompt. >> >> -- >> You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. > > Just trying to use the standard Explorer delete/rename/copy/paste > functions. But you mentioned UAC which I recently turned off - that must > have been the culprit (or, to put it another way - I must be the culprit > > > -- > regards, > Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-24-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder "Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%231t2tDfFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: > Why are you trying to replace part of the operating system? Which DLL is > this, and what are you trying to replace it with? > > -- > Steve Riley > steve.riley@xxxxxx > http://blogs.technet.com/steriley > http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com > > > "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:OZWNmTLFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: >> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:fofoh392amcqr4d5maakc01rtlkcdnpvcr@xxxxxx Quote: >>> In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" >>> <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version >>>>but >>>>fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try to >>>>rename the file. >>> >>> What tool are you using? Normally Explorer will pop up a dialog >>> warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the task. >>> >>> If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to start >>> it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. >>> >>> Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command >>> prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and you >>> should be able to do whatever you want from within that command prompt. >>> >>> -- >>> You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. >> >> Just trying to use the standard Explorer delete/rename/copy/paste >> functions. But you mentioned UAC which I recently turned off - that must >> have been the culprit (or, to put it another way - I must be the culprit >> >> >> -- >> regards, >> Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland copy/rename/delete files which are .dll's associated with a dumb USB device I have. I just wanted to be able to have such access in the 'standard' account to do the same. -- regards, Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-24-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder If that device is installing its own drivers in the Windows folder, the you should throw it away. Actually, I'm curious now how that device got its files there to begin with. What account were you logged in to when you used the drive the first time, do you remember? -- Steve Riley steve.riley@xxxxxx http://blogs.technet.com/steriley http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#8cKgFkFIHA.6120@xxxxxx Quote: > "Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%231t2tDfFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: >> Why are you trying to replace part of the operating system? Which DLL is >> this, and what are you trying to replace it with? >> >> -- >> Steve Riley >> steve.riley@xxxxxx >> http://blogs.technet.com/steriley >> http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com >> >> >> "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:OZWNmTLFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: >>> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:fofoh392amcqr4d5maakc01rtlkcdnpvcr@xxxxxx >>>> In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" >>>> <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version >>>>>but >>>>>fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try >>>>>to >>>>>rename the file. >>>> >>>> What tool are you using? Normally Explorer will pop up a dialog >>>> warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the task. >>>> >>>> If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to start >>>> it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. >>>> >>>> Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command >>>> prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and >>>> you >>>> should be able to do whatever you want from within that command prompt. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. >>> >>> >>> Just trying to use the standard Explorer delete/rename/copy/paste >>> functions. But you mentioned UAC which I recently turned off - that must >>> have been the culprit (or, to put it another way - I must be the culprit >>> >>> >>> -- >>> regards, >>> Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland > At the moment, I am changing into my 'super admin' account to > copy/rename/delete files which are .dll's associated with > a dumb USB device I have. I just wanted to be able to have such access in > the 'standard' account to do the same. > > -- > regards, > Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-25-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder In message <O7v65GrFIHA.3980@xxxxxx> "Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >If that device is installing its own drivers in the Windows folder, the you >should throw it away. Actually, I'm curious now how that device got its >files there to begin with. What account were you logged in to when you used >the drive the first time, do you remember? smelled like an installer, it would have no trouble writing drivers anywhere it wanted. -- You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. |
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10-25-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder True, but the UAC prompt still comes up. Need a little bit more info from Les to figure out what's really going on. Les, what is this USB device, and how is its driver software installed? -- Steve Riley steve.riley@xxxxxx http://blogs.technet.com/steriley http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:tua0i3l36sivee8b7b0lvco0tdi563r95v@xxxxxx Quote: > In message <O7v65GrFIHA.3980@xxxxxx> "Steve Riley [MSFT]" > <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>If that device is installing its own drivers in the Windows folder, the >>you >>should throw it away. Actually, I'm curious now how that device got its >>files there to begin with. What account were you logged in to when you >>used >>the drive the first time, do you remember? > Assuming it's installer was called setup.exe or install.exe or looked or > smelled like an installer, it would have no trouble writing drivers > anywhere it wanted. > > -- > You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. |
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10-25-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder I probably used the 'super admin' account (what is the correct way to discuss the super/normal admin accounts?) The original driver came wrapped in 2 x .sys files and 1 x .inf file - none of which I can understand. It's just that there are other drivers for the device that I want to try out. I can do this via the 'super admin' account but not through my normal everyday admin account. Another example of what I am facing - there is a folder called Temp in my windows folder. In the 'super admin' account, I can open Temp quite normally, but in my daily use account, I get a dialog box with: 'You don't currently have permission to access this folder.' click Continue to get access to this folder. but when I click continue - dialog closes, folder screen bar at top slides green and nothing else happens. I still don't get into the Temp folder. What happened to the offer of access? "Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O7v65GrFIHA.3980@xxxxxx Quote: > If that device is installing its own drivers in the Windows folder, the > you should throw it away. Actually, I'm curious now how that device got > its files there to begin with. What account were you logged in to when you > used the drive the first time, do you remember? > > -- > Steve Riley > steve.riley@xxxxxx > http://blogs.technet.com/steriley > http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com > > > "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:#8cKgFkFIHA.6120@xxxxxx Quote: >> "Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:%231t2tDfFIHA.4628@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Why are you trying to replace part of the operating system? Which DLL is >>> this, and what are you trying to replace it with? >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Riley >>> steve.riley@xxxxxx >>> http://blogs.technet.com/steriley >>> http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com >>> >>> >>> "Les" <completelyfalse@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:OZWNmTLFIHA.4628@xxxxxx >>>> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:fofoh392amcqr4d5maakc01rtlkcdnpvcr@xxxxxx >>>>> In message <e4MhLbGFIHA.284@xxxxxx> "Les" >>>>> <leshayathome@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Trying to overwrite a .dll file in Windows folder with a newer version >>>>>>but >>>>>>fails silently - no error, no changes made. The same results if I try >>>>>>to >>>>>>rename the file. >>>>> >>>>> What tool are you using? Normally Explorer will pop up a dialog >>>>> warning you, then toss it over to UAC to elevate and complete the >>>>> task. >>>>> >>>>> If you're using your own file management tool, you either need to >>>>> start >>>>> it as an administrator, or it needs to learn to run as a limited user. >>>>> >>>>> Failing that, if you're fluent with the command line, run a command >>>>> prompt by right clicking and choosing the "Run as administrator" and >>>>> you >>>>> should be able to do whatever you want from within that command >>>>> prompt. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just trying to use the standard Explorer delete/rename/copy/paste >>>> functions. But you mentioned UAC which I recently turned off - that >>>> must have been the culprit (or, to put it another way - I must be the >>>> culprit >>>> >>>> -- >>>> regards, >>>> Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland >>> >> At the moment, I am changing into my 'super admin' account to >> copy/rename/delete files which are .dll's associated with >> a dumb USB device I have. I just wanted to be able to have such access in >> the 'standard' account to do the same. >> >> -- >> regards, >> Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland -- regards, Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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10-25-2007
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| | Re: How to overwrite a file in Vista Windows folder "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:tua0i3l36sivee8b7b0lvco0tdi563r95v@xxxxxx Quote: > In message <O7v65GrFIHA.3980@xxxxxx> "Steve Riley [MSFT]" > <steve.riley@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>If that device is installing its own drivers in the Windows folder, the >>you >>should throw it away. Actually, I'm curious now how that device got its >>files there to begin with. What account were you logged in to when you >>used >>the drive the first time, do you remember? > Assuming it's installer was called setup.exe or install.exe or looked or > smelled like an installer, it would have no trouble writing drivers > anywhere it wanted. > > -- > You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than just a kind word. Yes, the original was 'installed' in the normal way via the windows installer, but the files I am now trying out are just a single ..dll file(s) which are to replace the one installed originally. -- regards, Les Hay, Livingston, Scotland |
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