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Old 10-22-2007   #1 (permalink)
zoomer96


 
 

Frustrated with UAc

I've become very frustreated with the UAC. Is Microsoft going to fix the
bugs in Vista and make it as reliable and user friendly as XP has become? I
resent not being able to have my computer do what I want my computer to do
without being second guessed. My chidren have grown up and my security needs
were being addressed by SP2 in XP and the anti-virus I had installed with it.
This is a new computer that came with Vista. I must say that if it weren't
for the UAC I'd love it. The graphics are spectacular and to be honest If it
weren't for that frustrating UAC it would have been a fantastic product for
Microsoft! Most of the gamers and recreational computer people I know are
holding off until it becomes as good an OS as XP has been. Only employers
that don't trust their employees would want to restrict someone to this
degree and that is not my case.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-22-2007   #2 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

Then simply disable UAC:
Start/Run
Type "msconfig" ENTER
Click Tools tab scroll down to "Disable UAC"
Click it to highlight.
Click Launch button follower by OK.

UAC comes up more often during initial setup and when installing.
I rarely see the UAC prompts anymore.

Poorly written often older programs is a common cause of the UAC
message.
Another cause is malware attempting unauthorized actions, in Windows
XP, this can happen without any notification.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"zoomer96" <zoomer96@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I've become very frustreated with the UAC. Is Microsoft going to
> fix the
> bugs in Vista and make it as reliable and user friendly as XP has
> become? I
> resent not being able to have my computer do what I want my computer
> to do
> without being second guessed. My chidren have grown up and my
> security needs
> were being addressed by SP2 in XP and the anti-virus I had installed
> with it.
> This is a new computer that came with Vista. I must say that if it
> weren't
> for the UAC I'd love it. The graphics are spectacular and to be
> honest If it
> weren't for that frustrating UAC it would have been a fantastic
> product for
> Microsoft! Most of the gamers and recreational computer people I
> know are
> holding off until it becomes as good an OS as XP has been. Only
> employers
> that don't trust their employees would want to restrict someone to
> this
> degree and that is not my case.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-22-2007   #3 (permalink)
f/fgeorge


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:41:01 -0700, zoomer96
<zoomer96@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I've become very frustreated with the UAC. Is Microsoft going to fix the
>bugs in Vista and make it as reliable and user friendly as XP has become? I
>resent not being able to have my computer do what I want my computer to do
>without being second guessed. My chidren have grown up and my security needs
>were being addressed by SP2 in XP and the anti-virus I had installed with it.
> This is a new computer that came with Vista. I must say that if it weren't
>for the UAC I'd love it. The graphics are spectacular and to be honest If it
>weren't for that frustrating UAC it would have been a fantastic product for
>Microsoft! Most of the gamers and recreational computer people I know are
>holding off until it becomes as good an OS as XP has been. Only employers
>that don't trust their employees would want to restrict someone to this
>degree and that is not my case.
Ummm Windows is simply moving towards a more Apple like environment,
emaning much more secure. Part of the reason you don't see so many
Apple viruses and trojans is because they are not as easy to get into.
XP is WIDE OPEN to anything and anyone that knows how, hence the
bi-weekly computer updates to fix major holes in the OS. Vista is
trying to let you know what is going on when you or a virues or trojan
do something. If you are still getting slammed, maybe you need to
check out what is really going on. After a week or so each pc should
be setup and not have very many UAC incidents at all. Maybe you have a
trojan or virus that is causing you 'issues'. Or maybe someone is
trying to get in to your pc's?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-22-2007   #4 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

"bi-weekly computer updates"
Not quite, they are monthly, the 2nd Tuesday of each month.
Exceptions are made for something deemed more urgent.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"f/fgeorge" <ffgeorge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:41:01 -0700, zoomer96> Ummm Windows is simply
> moving towards a more Apple like environment,
> emaning much more secure. Part of the reason you don't see so many
> Apple viruses and trojans is because they are not as easy to get
> into.
> XP is WIDE OPEN to anything and anyone that knows how, hence the
> bi-weekly computer updates to fix major holes in the OS. Vista is
> trying to let you know what is going on when you or a virues or
> trojan
> do something. If you are still getting slammed, maybe you need to
> check out what is really going on. After a week or so each pc should
> be setup and not have very many UAC incidents at all. Maybe you have
> a
> trojan or virus that is causing you 'issues'. Or maybe someone is
> trying to get in to your pc's?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-22-2007   #5 (permalink)
Steve Thackery


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

I wonder why you are getting so many UAC prompts. After the first couple of
weeks (when I was installing all my software and setting everything up as I
want it) I hardly get any.

In fact, I'm rather glad that Vista warns me when something with security
implications is about to happen.

Are you running some non-compatible software?

SteveT

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-24-2007   #6 (permalink)
Sid


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

I don't know how you MVP's listen to all of this crying about security that
is in place to protect them from themselves.
hahaha
--
I know Steve that you are not one of the MVP's Ijust had to comment when I
read down to your message.
Sid
"The force be with you"


"Steve Thackery" wrote:
Quote:

> I wonder why you are getting so many UAC prompts. After the first couple of
> weeks (when I was installing all my software and setting everything up as I
> want it) I hardly get any.
>
> In fact, I'm rather glad that Vista warns me when something with security
> implications is about to happen.
>
> Are you running some non-compatible software?
>
> SteveT
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-25-2007   #7 (permalink)
Mark


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

UAC doesn't protect you from anything. It's the decision to read the message
and not simply click Allow in frustation that protects you. (Just like your
firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware/adware/malware...) If it can't do it's
job without constantly nagging you, it's garbage.

If it frustrates you, it won't protect you.
It's a crock.

Use common sense.
Make backups.

"Sid" <Sid@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I don't know how you MVP's listen to all of this crying about security
that
Quote:

> is in place to protect them from themselves.
> hahaha
> --
> I know Steve that you are not one of the MVP's Ijust had to comment when I
> read down to your message.
> Sid
> "The force be with you"
>
>
> "Steve Thackery" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > I wonder why you are getting so many UAC prompts. After the first
couple of
Quote:
Quote:

> > weeks (when I was installing all my software and setting everything up
as I
Quote:
Quote:

> > want it) I hardly get any.
> >
> > In fact, I'm rather glad that Vista warns me when something with
security
Quote:
Quote:

> > implications is about to happen.
> >
> > Are you running some non-compatible software?
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> >

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-25-2007   #8 (permalink)
Steve Thackery


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

> UAC doesn't protect you from anything. It's the decision to read the
Quote:

> message
> and not simply click Allow in frustation that protects you. (Just like
> your
> firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware/adware/malware...) If it can't do it's
> job without constantly nagging you, it's garbage.
>
> If it frustrates you, it won't protect you.
> It's a crock.
Is Linux a crock, too, then? Because UAC is very similar indeed to the
elevation prompts you get in Linux when you want to fiddle with system
settings.

SteveT

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2007   #9 (permalink)
Mark


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

Don't know. I don't use Linux.
My tinkering days are over.
Now, I try to get work done.

You almost sent me down a long tirade, but I withdrew. What's the point?

Honestly, I don't have a beef with UAC. If you want to be that interactive
with your Operating System, Firewall, Anti-Virus, multiple Anti-Spyware,
Rookit Anaylzer, etc. at home instead of getting work done, go for it.

The point was, and is:
If it frustrates you, it won't protect you because you will simply click
Allow, Continue or Ignore and proceed. That makes it garbage.


"Steve Thackery" <thack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:
Quote:

> > UAC doesn't protect you from anything. It's the decision to read the
> > message
> > and not simply click Allow in frustation that protects you. (Just like
> > your
> > firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware/adware/malware...) If it can't do
it's
Quote:
Quote:

> > job without constantly nagging you, it's garbage.
> >
> > If it frustrates you, it won't protect you.
> > It's a crock.
>
> Is Linux a crock, too, then? Because UAC is very similar indeed to the
> elevation prompts you get in Linux when you want to fiddle with system
> settings.
>
> SteveT
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2007   #10 (permalink)
Mark


 
 

Re: Frustrated with UAc

If UAC were installed on a car:

Insert keys in ignition switch and rotate to Start position
The windows automatically darken, the door locks engage.
Finally, a prompt appears on the speedometer glass:
"Your car is being started. If you are the owner, press Continue."

Yep, it's that good! Imagine how safe your car will be from thievery!
But, if you don't like this feature, you can always open the hood and flip a
jumper on the computer box so you will no longer be prompted during starts
unless you use your remote starter or your wife's key.
But, everytime you start the car, you will get a "dinging" bell about once
a minute to let you know the jumper is in the wrong position.


"Steve Thackery" <thack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I wonder why you are getting so many UAC prompts. After the first couple
of
Quote:

> weeks (when I was installing all my software and setting everything up as
I
Quote:

> want it) I hardly get any.
>
> In fact, I'm rather glad that Vista warns me when something with security
> implications is about to happen.
>
> Are you running some non-compatible software?
>
> SteveT
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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