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| | Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? Ok, brief history of laptop: Bought a dell laptop for my father. Arrive 2 weeks ago. Has plenty of ram (3 gigs), CPU, etc...He mainly uses it for trading stocks and some email. I noticed 3 problems (I numbered each problem): #1. I went to download Firefox, went to the website, clicked on Download, "Save/Run" window popped up, I choose Save, "Browse Folder" window popped up, (so far all is normal) I choose Browse, the window disappeared and nothing happened. I try clicking Download again and this time no "Save/Run" popup, nothing happens. #2. I click on Tools -> Internet Options (maybe its a security setting) and I get a popup "Internet Explorer has stopped working the program must close now". the Internet Options window never came up. I tried #1 and #2 multiple times, reboot, etc...same result each time. So, based on the recommendation of a poster on here, I turned off UAC. So now the download works. I can also click on Tools -> Internet Options, and it comes up. So it all works now. #3. BUT in the lower right hand side of IE, it says "Internet Protection Off" Even though I DID NOT change any of the Security Options. It is still at Custom (default with the computer) I tried changing the security options and I cannot make it say "Internet Protection On" - even though it is enabled in Security options (the check box is checked - so it should be on) So I decide to turn UAC back on. And now in IE it says "Internet Protection On" so that is fixed, even though I never touched the internet security options. #2. But if I click Tools -> Internet Options...yep, I get "Internet Explorer has stopped working, the program must close" #1. and I am unable to download again. So is UAC screwing things up or is the Vista having problems? I can understand UAC doing #1 for protection, but #2 and #3 is not right. I went to Bestbuy to check out the demo computers, and with UAC on, I was able to go to Tools -> Internet Options. I then turned UAC off, and the lower right of IE still said Internet Protection On. So #2 and #3 did not happen with the demo PC at Bestbuy. Thanks |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? Hi, Try accessing Internet Option via the Control Panel with IE already closed, or run "control inetcpl.cpl" from the start/search line. I suspect you have a plugin/addon that is interfering with IE's functionality. As to #3, that is normal. With UAC disabled Internet Protection will indicate "off" as it cannot prevent malicious controls from running unseen under a user with admin privileges. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com <tforms1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:a4396a01-e7fd-4775-a297-2fa600f2f748@xxxxxx Quote: > Ok, brief history of laptop: Bought a dell laptop for my father. > Arrive 2 weeks ago. Has plenty of ram (3 gigs), CPU, etc...He mainly > uses it for trading stocks and some email. > > I noticed 3 problems (I numbered each problem): > > #1. I went to download Firefox, went to the website, clicked on > Download, "Save/Run" window popped up, I choose Save, "Browse Folder" > window popped up, (so far all is normal) > I choose Browse, the window disappeared and nothing happened. > I try clicking Download again and this time no "Save/Run" popup, > nothing happens. > > #2. I click on Tools -> Internet Options (maybe its a security > setting) and I get a popup "Internet Explorer has stopped working the > program must close now". the Internet Options window never came up. > > I tried #1 and #2 multiple times, reboot, etc...same result each time. > > So, based on the recommendation of a poster on here, I turned off UAC. > So now the download works. > I can also click on Tools -> Internet Options, and it comes up. > So it all works now. > > #3. BUT in the lower right hand side of IE, it says "Internet > Protection Off" > Even though I DID NOT change any of the Security Options. > It is still at Custom (default with the computer) > I tried changing the security options and I cannot make it say > "Internet Protection On" - even though it is enabled in Security > options (the check box is checked - so it should be on) > > So I decide to turn UAC back on. > And now in IE it says "Internet Protection On" > so that is fixed, even though I never touched the internet security > options. > > #2. But if I click Tools -> Internet Options...yep, I get "Internet > Explorer has stopped working, the program must close" > #1. and I am unable to download again. > > So is UAC screwing things up or is the Vista having problems? > I can understand UAC doing #1 for protection, but #2 and #3 is not > right. > > I went to Bestbuy to check out the demo computers, and with UAC on, I > was able to go to Tools -> Internet Options. > I then turned UAC off, and the lower right of IE still said Internet > Protection On. > So #2 and #3 did not happen with the demo PC at Bestbuy. > > Thanks |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? On Nov 20, 10:06 am, "Rick Rogers" <r...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Try accessing Internet Option via the Control Panel with IE already closed, > or run "control inetcpl.cpl" from the start/search line. I suspect you have > a plugin/addon that is interfering with IE's functionality. Also, why is it that if I turn off UAC then I can access Internet Options? Quote: > As to #3, that is normal. With UAC disabled Internet Protection will > indicate "off" as it cannot prevent malicious controls from running unseen > under a user with admin privileges. UAC off and on the bottom right it still said the protection was on. And when I went to Internet Options, the Enable Protection Checkbox was still Checked. |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? > But when I went to Bestbuy and tried it on their computers, I turned Quote: > UAC off and on the bottom right it still said the protection was on. > And when I went to Internet Options, the Enable Protection Checkbox > was still Checked. If you don't restart IE, the settings don't change. -- A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx Change Alpha to Numeric to reply |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? Actually, you have to reboot the system to stop/start UAC. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Not Me" <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eSDbdv6KIHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> But when I went to Bestbuy and tried it on their computers, I turned >> UAC off and on the bottom right it still said the protection was on. >> And when I went to Internet Options, the Enable Protection Checkbox >> was still Checked. > After turning UAC on/off, did you close and reopen IE? > If you don't restart IE, the settings don't change. > -- > A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! > CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx > Change Alpha to Numeric to reply > |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? Hi, Quote: Quote: >> Try accessing Internet Option via the Control Panel with IE already >> closed, >> or run "control inetcpl.cpl" from the start/search line. I suspect you >> have >> a plugin/addon that is interfering with IE's functionality. > Ive never added a plug in for IE, its all default right now. > Also, why is it that if I turn off UAC then I can access Internet > Options? Why? Because when it's off whatever process that is interfering has unfettered access to the system. When it's on, it's being blocked because it's trying to write to or alter a protected system folder. Whether or not it's malicious remains to be seen, first we have to isolate what it is. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com <snip> |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? On Nov 20, 4:30 pm, "Rick Rogers" <r...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Actually, you have to reboot the system to stop/start UAC. Next time I go back, I'll try that. Thanks |
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| | Re: Is my UAC messed up or my Vista? On Nov 20, 4:34 pm, "Rick Rogers" <r...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Have you tried either suggestion and what was the result? Its on my father's laptop, and I have not been by to try it out. Quote: > Why? Because when it's off whatever process that is interfering has > unfettered access to the system. When it's on, it's being blocked because > it's trying to write to or alter a protected system folder. Whether or not > it's malicious remains to be seen, first we have to isolate what it is. |
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