"Blue Pill" Malware

This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security breech
exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?

Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp

--
Mark

Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!

Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was

...snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica virtualization
technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete control of
the underlying operating system." ..snip..

Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol


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"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
| This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
breech
| exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
|
| Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
|
| http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
|
| --
| Mark
|
| Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
|

The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.

"Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
>
> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica virtualization
> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete control
> of
> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
>
> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
>
>
> --
> Takali S. Omega
> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
> 2x WD 250 SATA2
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
> breech
> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
> |
> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
> |
> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
> |
> | --
> | Mark
> |
> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
> |
>
>

True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux as
well.

--
Mark

Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
>
> "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
>>
>> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
>> virtualization
>> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete control
>> of
>> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
>>
>> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
>>
>>
>> --
>> Takali S. Omega
>> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
>> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
>> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
>> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
>> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
>> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
>> 2x WD 250 SATA2
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
>> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
>> breech
>> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
>> |
>> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
>> |
>> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
>> |
>> | --
>> | Mark
>> |
>> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>> |
>>
>>
>
>

Depends on the delivery package.

"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%231lcGYtoGHA.4152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
> concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux as
> well.
>
> --
> Mark
>
> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
>>
>> "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
>> news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
>>>
>>> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
>>> virtualization
>>> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete
>>> control of
>>> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
>>>
>>> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Takali S. Omega
>>> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
>>> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
>>> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
>>> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
>>> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
>>> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
>>> 2x WD 250 SATA2
>>> -------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
>>> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
>>> breech
>>> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
>>> |
>>> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
>>> |
>>> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
>>> |
>>> | --
>>> | Mark
>>> |
>>> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>>> |
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Right...which seems almost humorous to me. Sorry if that sounds bad, but it
will remove a thorn in my side from the debates with my LFWPT and the idea
that Linux is totally secure and is absolutely immune to attack...same goes
for Mac users.

It will be interesting to see if anyone makes use of it. I have a show to
do in an hour and a half and will bring it up just as a matter of reference.

I don't mean to plug my show, but since the topic this week is Vista, I
figgered maybe some of you might be interested. You can listen in on the
stream at the website. http://www.techtak.com The site will be totally
redesigned later this coming week, as I hate what it looks like now. It's
not a "fancy" Kim Komando kind of show, but mostly just me and my wife
bantering back and forth. It's a small show. We have fun doing it, but we
really want to start getting serious about Vista on it, so we appreciate any
feedback from folks. (Might even be nice to have some halfway knowledgable
people call in...lol)

I sure hope Vista doesn't turn out to be a great OS and still be the bashing
bag like the rest just because people hate MS so much. So far, to be
honest, I like Vista x64. Of course it has some bugs...maybe even a lot of
them...but that's why we get the honor of beta testing it.

One question I've been meaning to ask folks on the ng... How many of you
are reporting your problems and/or solutions to the MS feedback system for
the Beta? You DO realize, I hope, that that's what this beta release is
for, right? To let them know of the problems you find?

--
Takali S. Omega
Manager, Raven Mill Computers
Owner, SynTaks E-Works
Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
------------------------------------------------------------
ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
Intel Presler Pentium D 950
2GB OCZ DDR2-800
2x eVGA 7600 SLI
2x WD 250 SATA2
-------------------------------------


"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%231lcGYtoGHA.4152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
| concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux as
| well.
|
| --
| Mark
|
| Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
|
| "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
| news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
| >
| > "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
| > news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
| >>
| >> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
| >> virtualization
| >> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete
control
| >> of
| >> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
| >>
| >> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
| >>
| >>
| >> --
| >> Takali S. Omega
| >> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
| >> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
| >> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
| >> ------------------------------------------------------------
| >> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
| >> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
| >> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
| >> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
| >> 2x WD 250 SATA2
| >> -------------------------------------
| >>
| >>
| >> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| >> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
| >> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
| >> breech
| >> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
| >> |
| >> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
| >> |
| >> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
| >> |
| >> | --
| >> | Mark
| >> |
| >> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
| >> |
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|

I have cruised 20-25 different articles about this and there is no mention
of the delivery process, other than "generically injected into the kernel."
There will be a demonstration in Singapore on 18 July, and then another at
Black Hat, so perhaps in a week or so I'll revisit this.
--
Mark

Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23apDJctoGHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Depends on the delivery package.
>
> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%231lcGYtoGHA.4152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
>> concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux
>> as well.
>>
>> --
>> Mark
>>
>> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
>>>
>>> "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
>>>>
>>>> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
>>>> virtualization
>>>> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete
>>>> control of
>>>> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Takali S. Omega
>>>> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
>>>> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
>>>> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
>>>> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
>>>> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
>>>> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
>>>> 2x WD 250 SATA2
>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
>>>> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
>>>> breech
>>>> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
>>>> |
>>>> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
>>>> |
>>>> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
>>>> |
>>>> | --
>>>> | Mark
>>>> |
>>>> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

I agree completely.

The response to the rambling anecdotal postings should always be "Did you
report this to MS at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/sentiments/default.mspx?"
The response to detailed, apparently unsolvable issues should always be "Did
you file a bug with
http://windowsbeta.microsoft.com/vista/bugs.aspx?&build=0&sku=0?"

Good luck with your great show! Do you record the shows for podcasting?

"Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
news:ObjUrjtoGHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Right...which seems almost humorous to me. Sorry if that sounds bad, but
> it
> will remove a thorn in my side from the debates with my LFWPT and the idea
> that Linux is totally secure and is absolutely immune to attack...same
> goes
> for Mac users.
>
> It will be interesting to see if anyone makes use of it. I have a show to
> do in an hour and a half and will bring it up just as a matter of
> reference.
>
> I don't mean to plug my show, but since the topic this week is Vista, I
> figgered maybe some of you might be interested. You can listen in on the
> stream at the website. http://www.techtak.com The site will be totally
> redesigned later this coming week, as I hate what it looks like now. It's
> not a "fancy" Kim Komando kind of show, but mostly just me and my wife
> bantering back and forth. It's a small show. We have fun doing it, but
> we
> really want to start getting serious about Vista on it, so we appreciate
> any
> feedback from folks. (Might even be nice to have some halfway
> knowledgable
> people call in...lol)
>
> I sure hope Vista doesn't turn out to be a great OS and still be the
> bashing
> bag like the rest just because people hate MS so much. So far, to be
> honest, I like Vista x64. Of course it has some bugs...maybe even a lot
> of
> them...but that's why we get the honor of beta testing it.
>
> One question I've been meaning to ask folks on the ng... How many of you
> are reporting your problems and/or solutions to the MS feedback system for
> the Beta? You DO realize, I hope, that that's what this beta release is
> for, right? To let them know of the problems you find?
>
> --
> Takali S. Omega
> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
> 2x WD 250 SATA2
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%231lcGYtoGHA.4152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
> | concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux
> as
> | well.
> |
> | --
> | Mark
> |
> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
> |
> | "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> | news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
> | >
> | > "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
> | > news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | >> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
> | >>
> | >> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
> | >> virtualization
> | >> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete
> control
> | >> of
> | >> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
> | >>
> | >> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Takali S. Omega
> | >> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
> | >> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
> | >> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
> | >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> | >> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
> | >> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
> | >> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
> | >> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
> | >> 2x WD 250 SATA2
> | >> -------------------------------------
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | >> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
> | >> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental
> security
> | >> breech
> | >> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
> | >> |
> | >> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
> | >> |
> | >> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
> | >> |
> | >> | --
> | >> | Mark
> | >> |
> | >> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
> | >> |
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

By delivery I meant the target. Windows, Linux, OS/X.

"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OPaYNxtoGHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have cruised 20-25 different articles about this and there is no mention
>of the delivery process, other than "generically injected into the kernel."
>There will be a demonstration in Singapore on 18 July, and then another at
>Black Hat, so perhaps in a week or so I'll revisit this.
> --
> Mark
>
> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23apDJctoGHA.4036@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Depends on the delivery package.
>>
>> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%231lcGYtoGHA.4152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> True enough, but the part that should concern people is that, if this
>>> concept is true, this is not specific to Windows, but viable with Linux
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:udv9IQtoGHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> The AMD Pacifica and Intel VT technologies are different.
>>>>
>>>> "Raven Mill @techtak.com>" <ravenmill<nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23mauCLtoGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hmmm... The line in there that I noticed was
>>>>>
>>>>> ..snip.. "the new Blue Pill concept uses AMD's SVM/Pacifica
>>>>> virtualization
>>>>> technology to create an ultra-thin hypervisor that takes complete
>>>>> control of
>>>>> the underlying operating system." ..snip..
>>>>>
>>>>> Wonder if that means it only effects AMD systems...lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Takali S. Omega
>>>>> Manager, Raven Mill Computers
>>>>> Owner, SynTaks E-Works
>>>>> Host of TechTAK on KFAR 660am
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ASUS P5N32SLI Deluxe
>>>>> Intel Presler Pentium D 950
>>>>> 2GB OCZ DDR2-800
>>>>> 2x eVGA 7600 SLI
>>>>> 2x WD 250 SATA2
>>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
>>>>> | This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
>>>>> breech
>>>>> | exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
>>>>> |
>>>>> | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
>>>>> |
>>>>> | --
>>>>> | Mark
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I only know of one blue pill, it's for erectile disfunction.

"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B98957FF-998E-4E4A-A513-19563D3BA491@microsoft.com...
> This, and other similar reports is suggesting a fundamental security
> breech exists in Windows Vista x64. Is there any validity too this?
>
> Here's the link, but it's prevalent in searches as well:
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp
>
> --
> Mark
>
> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!