Services safe to disable?

I know there are a lot more serivces running in Vista but am unsure which
ones I can safely disable atm. I don't need Peer networking or Remote Access
plus a few others which concern me 'security wise' I don't want to shut any
of them down as I know this is a beta install therefore may they may be
necessary.

Do I assume at this stage due to the fact they run with lesser privileges I
should leave them alone until we have a guide to follow?
There seems to be a lot running plus the fact I don't have my normal
security software to control Vista.

It's ok I have thought about this and am not going to tweak any services
unless I am haiving trouble with them. Will leave as they are after reading a
few articles about how they run differently from XP services.

"pippin" wrote:

> I know there are a lot more serivces running in Vista but am unsure which
> ones I can safely disable atm. I don't need Peer networking or Remote Access
> plus a few others which concern me 'security wise' I don't want to shut any
> of them down as I know this is a beta install therefore may they may be
> necessary.
>
> Do I assume at this stage due to the fact they run with lesser privileges I
> should leave them alone until we have a guide to follow?
> There seems to be a lot running plus the fact I don't have my normal
> security software to control Vista.

Even in XPsp2, I discourage people from disabling services unless they
really know what they are doing.
The combination of the (only as much as necessary) privilege the services
are running under, combined with the built in firewall, should address any
concerns which normally result in someone desiring to disable services.
-
Jamie Hunter [MS]

"pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:87570CA8-8BE6-4029-9163-3EDF04FEF4C6@microsoft.com...
> It's ok I have thought about this and am not going to tweak any services
> unless I am haiving trouble with them. Will leave as they are after
> reading a
> few articles about how they run differently from XP services.
>
> "pippin" wrote:
>
>> I know there are a lot more serivces running in Vista but am unsure which
>> ones I can safely disable atm. I don't need Peer networking or Remote
>> Access
>> plus a few others which concern me 'security wise' I don't want to shut
>> any
>> of them down as I know this is a beta install therefore may they may be
>> necessary.
>>
>> Do I assume at this stage due to the fact they run with lesser privileges
>> I
>> should leave them alone until we have a guide to follow?
>> There seems to be a lot running plus the fact I don't have my normal
>> security software to control Vista.

Thank you Jamie

I learnt a lesson after configuring services under SP1 when SP2 was released
services I had disabled were then required which presented me with some
issues.
I will leave Vista as recommended esp. when I can activate UAP again I know
this would also alert me if antyihg was trying to alter one of the serivces.
Unfortunately I had to disable this as there is a conflict on my setup with
AVG on booting.
I appreciate your guidance, thanks.

"Jamie Hunter [MS]" wrote:

> Even in XPsp2, I discourage people from disabling services unless they
> really know what they are doing.
> The combination of the (only as much as necessary) privilege the services
> are running under, combined with the built in firewall, should address any
> concerns which normally result in someone desiring to disable services.
> -
> Jamie Hunter [MS]
>
> "pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:87570CA8-8BE6-4029-9163-3EDF04FEF4C6@microsoft.com...
> > It's ok I have thought about this and am not going to tweak any services
> > unless I am haiving trouble with them. Will leave as they are after
> > reading a
> > few articles about how they run differently from XP services.
> >
> > "pippin" wrote:
> >
> >> I know there are a lot more serivces running in Vista but am unsure which
> >> ones I can safely disable atm. I don't need Peer networking or Remote
> >> Access
> >> plus a few others which concern me 'security wise' I don't want to shut
> >> any
> >> of them down as I know this is a beta install therefore may they may be
> >> necessary.
> >>
> >> Do I assume at this stage due to the fact they run with lesser privileges
> >> I
> >> should leave them alone until we have a guide to follow?
> >> There seems to be a lot running plus the fact I don't have my normal
> >> security software to control Vista.
>

"pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A069EC8-5AF1-4CAC-A513-348A1FE0FA54@microsoft.com...
> Thank you Jamie
>
> I learnt a lesson after configuring services under SP1 when SP2 was
> released
> services I had disabled were then required which presented me with some
> issues.
> I will leave Vista as recommended esp. when I can activate UAP again I
> know
> this would also alert me if antyihg was trying to alter one of the
> serivces.
> Unfortunately I had to disable this as there is a conflict on my setup
> with
> AVG on booting.
> I appreciate your guidance, thanks.

Re: AVG.

I was poking around in Vista this morning and was looking at the information
given for some of the updates Vista had downloaded and installed. One of
them (nowhere near my Vista box, so I can't tell you which one specifically,
but there are only ten or so, total) addressed some concern with AVG. I
didn't pay any mind since I don't use AVG. So, I guess make sure your
updates are current and then try AVG again.

As to UAC, once you have all your favourite apps installed and your desktop
(and other tweaks) the way you want, UAC really doesn't show up at all, as
long as you are using Vista as a typical user.

Thank you Mark

It was after the update for AVG was released I decided to install as I
wasn't keen on Avast. I know this is not a bug with everyone but I was
careful to use a custom install to make sure AVG was installing to my Vista
drive. It was but somehow on boot it looks for access to my other drive where
XP resides and AVG Pro.
The only way to boot without a kernel data error for AVG is to disable UAC.

Avast was slow to boot AVG is quicker but needs to check C for some reason
even though both are different OS. I only updated the XP side when the
computer arrived and installed then insalled Vista. I have reported this to
AVG with the setup hopefully they are investigating as I would like to try to
work with UAC enabled. Dilemma as I can start AVG manually but 'unsure' if
all parts are actually loaded.
Run the update for AVG and defintitions go to Vista without worry it is
something on booting where access is denied. Lookking for Virus database:
C:\AVG7QT.DAT yet updating to Vista - conflict with having AVG on both drives.

I will perhaps try another AV when RC1 is released to avoid a conflict like
this unless AVG can advise on how to fix. I would have thought booting into
Visat would not have any access to C but AVG seems to want it. Fully updated
Vista plus AVG current version.

I know some have turned UAC off completely out of choice - I wanted to learn
plus use the extra safety but can't until I can work out my AVG issues. Many
thanks for your help.

"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote:

> "pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A069EC8-5AF1-4CAC-A513-348A1FE0FA54@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you Jamie
> >
> > I learnt a lesson after configuring services under SP1 when SP2 was
> > released
> > services I had disabled were then required which presented me with some
> > issues.
> > I will leave Vista as recommended esp. when I can activate UAP again I
> > know
> > this would also alert me if antyihg was trying to alter one of the
> > serivces.
> > Unfortunately I had to disable this as there is a conflict on my setup
> > with
> > AVG on booting.
> > I appreciate your guidance, thanks.
>
> Re: AVG.
>
> I was poking around in Vista this morning and was looking at the information
> given for some of the updates Vista had downloaded and installed. One of
> them (nowhere near my Vista box, so I can't tell you which one specifically,
> but there are only ten or so, total) addressed some concern with AVG. I
> didn't pay any mind since I don't use AVG. So, I guess make sure your
> updates are current and then try AVG again.
>
> As to UAC, once you have all your favourite apps installed and your desktop
> (and other tweaks) the way you want, UAC really doesn't show up at all, as
> long as you are using Vista as a typical user.
>
>
>

"pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9727B8A3-C422-413D-9F07-1F4A6ABE023C@microsoft.com...
> It was but somehow on boot it looks for access to my other drive where
> XP resides and AVG Pro.
> The only way to boot without a kernel data error for AVG is to disable
> UAC.
>

Why not hide the XP system partition from Vista using a disk partitioning
manager and vice versa? It may solve your AVG issue, and I know it solves
the "disappearing" System Restore Point issue (search: volsnap.sys) that has
been plaguing many of us with dual-boot systems. You can make a third
partition and use it for documents, while you are at it, accessible from
both O/S's and relocate XP's "My Documents" to the new partition. Adds a
level of safety, too, as you can reformat your system drives ad infinitum
with no loss of documents.

Thanks again I didn't consider this option and even better as i don't use the
XP Pro install on this computer as this is specific for Vista. I didn't want
to install any betas on my actual computer. I did activate XP Pro and only
access to update Windows anything on my Vista drive is for Vista. Everything
important document wise is on a completely different computer.

I have the BootPro tool downloaded and will go back and find out more about
using this as it may help to hide one system but enbale me to get XP back if
I need to.
I think I read it is best to install this on XP and adjust things from
there. I will definitely find out about this even if it means a re-install of
AVG at least it would stop looking on C. Thank you.

I have partition magic 8.1 which would run on the XP side but I hope the
boot tool would help rather than installing PM as I will need to create real
partitions when the beta test for vista is complete. Will carefully check my
options before making any major changes to booting.



"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote:

>
> "pippin" <pippin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9727B8A3-C422-413D-9F07-1F4A6ABE023C@microsoft.com...
> > It was but somehow on boot it looks for access to my other drive where
> > XP resides and AVG Pro.
> > The only way to boot without a kernel data error for AVG is to disable
> > UAC.
> >
>
> Why not hide the XP system partition from Vista using a disk partitioning
> manager and vice versa? It may solve your AVG issue, and I know it solves
> the "disappearing" System Restore Point issue (search: volsnap.sys) that has
> been plaguing many of us with dual-boot systems. You can make a third
> partition and use it for documents, while you are at it, accessible from
> both O/S's and relocate XP's "My Documents" to the new partition. Adds a
> level of safety, too, as you can reformat your system drives ad infinitum
> with no loss of documents.
>
>
>