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01-31-2008
| #11 (permalink) |
| | Re: Folders - read-only The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this wouldn't happen. Regards, Dave "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23vywYh7YIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: > No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the > only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When > migrated to another installation, the permissions on that folder must > be altered by the user to match the user account on the target > installation. > > -- > Best of Luck, > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > > "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:%232wKc0tYIHA.5208@xxxxxx' >> Quote: >>> Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated >>> with the >>> creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT >>> before it. >>> Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by >>> the >>> owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an >>> inherent >>> part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was >>> pretty >>> much non-existent. >> OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized >> I have *never* >> used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply >> transfer files >> and settings by copying. >> >> So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this >> 'issue' is non-existant? >> >> >> >> >> Quote: >>> Best of Luck, >>> >>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >>> >>> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message >>> news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@xxxxxx >>> > >>> > "Max" <max@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > news:u7EFvOmYIHA.6140@xxxxxx >>> >> It's likely a 'permissions' thing. >>> >> Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do >>> >> not >>> >> 'belong' >>> >> to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous >>> >> ownership and >>> >> therefore are limited in what can be done with them. >>> >> Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine. >>> >> Here is an easy way: >>> >> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/ >>> > >>> > Nice tip, thanks... >>> > >>> > More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Maxwell Bluemeanie >>> >> "Michelle" <mh_londonSPAMSTOP@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> >> news:ukcgnikYIHA.3400@xxxxxx >>> >> >I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows >>> >> >XP >>> >> >(IE7). >>> >> >I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista. >>> >> > >>> >> > Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It >>> >> > says >>> >> > they >>> >> > are read-only. >>> >> > >>> >> > When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green >>> >> > square >>> >> > (mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and >>> >> > accept >>> >> > the >>> >> > prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders. >>> >> > >>> >> > But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I >>> >> > look at >>> >> > their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed >>> >> > content. >>> >> > And I still can't organise or add to them. >>> >> > >>> >> > What can I do to make them useable again? >>> >> > >>> >> > thanks... >>> >> > >>> >> > M >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> |
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01-31-2008
| #12 (permalink) |
| | Re: Folders - read-only Hi, True, I had missed the point of copying to CD as a step. Once removed from a secure file system, the descriptors would be lost. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Dave R." <dwragle (at) drbsystems (dot) com> wrote in message news:47a1ee47$0$47158$892e7fe2@xxxxxx Quote: > The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this > wouldn't happen. > > Regards, > > Dave > > "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23vywYh7YIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: >> No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the >> only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When migrated >> to another installation, the permissions on that folder must be altered >> by the user to match the user account on the target installation. >> >> -- >> Best of Luck, >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >> >> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message >> news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@xxxxxx Quote: >>> >>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:%232wKc0tYIHA.5208@xxxxxx' >>> >>>> Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated with >>>> the >>>> creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT before >>>> it. >>>> Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by >>>> the >>>> owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an >>>> inherent >>>> part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was >>>> pretty >>>> much non-existent. >>> >>> OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized I >>> have *never* >>> used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply >>> transfer files >>> and settings by copying. >>> >>> So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this 'issue' >>> is non-existant? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Best of Luck, >>>> >>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message >>>> news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@xxxxxx >>>> > >>>> > "Max" <max@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> > news:u7EFvOmYIHA.6140@xxxxxx >>>> >> It's likely a 'permissions' thing. >>>> >> Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do not >>>> >> 'belong' >>>> >> to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous >>>> >> ownership and >>>> >> therefore are limited in what can be done with them. >>>> >> Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine. >>>> >> Here is an easy way: >>>> >> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/ >>>> > >>>> > Nice tip, thanks... >>>> > >>>> > More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Maxwell Bluemeanie >>>> >> "Michelle" <mh_londonSPAMSTOP@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> >> news:ukcgnikYIHA.3400@xxxxxx >>>> >> >I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows XP >>>> >> >(IE7). >>>> >> >I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It >>>> >> > says >>>> >> > they >>>> >> > are read-only. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green >>>> >> > square >>>> >> > (mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and >>>> >> > accept >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I >>>> >> > look at >>>> >> > their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed >>>> >> > content. >>>> >> > And I still can't organise or add to them. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > What can I do to make them useable again? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > thanks... >>>> >> > >>>> >> > M >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> > |
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02-01-2008
| #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: Folders - read-only I was beginning to get really confused, since I'd never encountered this issue when transferring (not using wizards or 'migrating') files before. Thanks for bantering it about. DM "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OLjwMUGZIHA.5348@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, > > True, I had missed the point of copying to CD as a step. Once removed from a > secure file system, the descriptors would be lost. > > -- > Best of Luck, > > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > > "Dave R." <dwragle (at) drbsystems (dot) com> wrote in message > news:47a1ee47$0$47158$892e7fe2@xxxxxx Quote: > > The CD file system doesn't preserve NTFS file permissions, so no, this > > wouldn't happen. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dave > > > > "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:%23vywYh7YIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: > >> No, it'd still be the same. In an NT system, the creator/owner is the > >> only account to automatically have full access to a folder. When migrated > >> to another installation, the permissions on that folder must be altered > >> by the user to match the user account on the target installation. > >> > >> -- > >> Best of Luck, > >> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > >> > >> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > >> news:Qz9oj.5731$z_6.4958@xxxxxx > >>> > >>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> news:%232wKc0tYIHA.5208@xxxxxx' > >>> > >>>> Has nothing to do with Vista, it's a permissions issue associated with > >>>> the > >>>> creator/owner of a folder. Same thing existed in XP, 2K, and NT before > >>>> it. > >>>> Folders created in another operating system have to be taken over by > >>>> the > >>>> owner of the different operating system when migrated. This is an > >>>> inherent > >>>> part of any NT system, as opposed to the 9x line where security was > >>>> pretty > >>>> much non-existent. > >>> > >>> OK.... At first I started to rant and disagree.... then I realized I > >>> have *never* > >>> used a "migrate" function in any shape for or fashion. I simply > >>> transfer files > >>> and settings by copying. > >>> > >>> So... If I copy a CD full of files to VISTA from an XP PC, this 'issue' > >>> is non-existant? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Best of Luck, > >>>> > >>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP > >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ > >>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org > >>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com > >>>> > >>>> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@xxxxxx-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message > >>>> news:dRHnj.7467$v86.1246@xxxxxx > >>>> > > >>>> > "Max" <max@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>>> > news:u7EFvOmYIHA.6140@xxxxxx > >>>> >> It's likely a 'permissions' thing. > >>>> >> Files/folders copied from another machine or Windows install do not > >>>> >> 'belong' > >>>> >> to the Vista system or user--they are flagged with previous > >>>> >> ownership and > >>>> >> therefore are limited in what can be done with them. > >>>> >> Take Ownership of the files/folders and you should be fine. > >>>> >> Here is an easy way: > >>>> >> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...menu-in-vista/ > >>>> > > >>>> > Nice tip, thanks... > >>>> > > >>>> > More evidence as to why VISTA is less than ready for prime time. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -- > >>>> >> Maxwell Bluemeanie > >>>> >> "Michelle" <mh_londonSPAMSTOP@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>>> >> news:ukcgnikYIHA.3400@xxxxxx > >>>> >> >I have copied all my internet favourites folders in from Windows XP > >>>> >> >(IE7). > >>>> >> >I didn't use a password in XP and still don't in Vista. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Now, I can't organise or add-to any of the folders in Vista. It > >>>> >> > says > >>>> >> > they > >>>> >> > are read-only. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > When I display the properties of the folders, they have a green > >>>> >> > square > >>>> >> > (mixed content) in the read-only tick-box. I switch it off and > >>>> >> > accept > >>>> >> > the > >>>> >> > prompt which says that it will apply to files and sub-folders. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > But when I go to use them they are still read-only, and when I > >>>> >> > look at > >>>> >> > their properties, they are unchanged - still flagged with mixed > >>>> >> > content. > >>>> >> > And I still can't organise or add to them. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > What can I do to make them useable again? > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > thanks... > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > M > >>>> >> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > |
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