Vista - TechTAK Again

Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...

I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo from
Intel for this week's TechTAK.

What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?

And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the "Why
arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be honest, I
have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2 4800... by a LONG
shot. And that's not even taking into consideration the thermal problems
that AMD has.

So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
made...

How is Hyperthreading applied? If I have 2 dual core processors and enable
hyperthreading, will I have 4 or 8 logical processors?

--
The personal opinion of
Gary G. Little

"Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>
> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>
> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>
> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration the
> thermal problems that AMD has.
>
> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
> made...
>
>
>
>
>

This probably qualifies as quasi-intelligent at best (maybe just plain dumb,
since it's still a comparison thing). But AMD is talking about having
quad-core chips out by 2007. Does Intel have any plans along those lines?


"Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>
> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>
> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>
> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration the
> thermal problems that AMD has.
>
> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
> made...
>
>
>
>
>

Raven Mill, will any of these questions help you out?

1. My new Core 2 Duo machine is backordered because the E6600 I ordered was
delayed a week in releasing. What was the hold up for the E6600 and E6700?

2. What is the cornerstone of Core technology and what problems with
NetBurst does Core technology solve?

3. How is VT detected and enabled?

4. Is VT the same in the Core 2 as it is in the Core or have there been
enhancements in Core 2? If yes, what enhancement?

5. When is the hypervisor active in VT and when is it not?

6. I have problems with turning off VT in Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 beta.
If I create a Linux virtual machine that uses the most recent kernels (2.4
and 2.6) I have timer interval issues (runs too fast). Older kernels are
OK.

7. (Follow up to 6) If I turn off VT for Linux vm's that have the timer
interval issue things are fine, but if I restart the vm VT is turned back
on. It's supposed to stay off. Have you heard reports like this with Core
cpu's and Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 beta?

"Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>
> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>
> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>
> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration the
> thermal problems that AMD has.
>
> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
> made...
>
>
>
>
>

Hyperthreading is not implemented in the Core line.

For a review of the technology, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#Conroe_XE_2

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:44e33010$0$25784$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
> How is Hyperthreading applied? If I have 2 dual core processors and enable
> hyperthreading, will I have 4 or 8 logical processors?
>
> --
> The personal opinion of
> Gary G. Little
>
> "Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
> news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>>
>> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
>> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>>
>> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>>
>> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
>> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
>> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
>> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration
>> the thermal problems that AMD has.
>>
>> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
>> made...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I don't know who your audience is, but another topic that might be worth
bring up centers around how the Extreme products are different in the Core 2
Duo. In previous products it seemed to center around faster FSB, larger
cache, and HyperThreading (the latter apparently extint in Core 2?). To look
at some current specs it seems to be just about clock speed.


"Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>
> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>
> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>
> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration the
> thermal problems that AMD has.
>
> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
> made...
>
>
>
>
>

I'm not sure I'm following what your saying. Core2 Duo
is so much more than raw clock speed. It seems to me
Intel has actually been emphasizing the overall structure/
performance of the chip and not so much the clock speed.

-Michael

"Alan Simpson" <noreply@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uF%23AE2UwGHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I don't know who your audience is, but another topic that might be worth bring up centers
>around how the Extreme products are different in the Core 2 Duo. In previous products it
>seemed to center around faster FSB, larger cache, and HyperThreading (the latter apparently
>extint in Core 2?). To look at some current specs it seems to be just about clock speed.
>
>
> "Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
> news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>>
>> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo from Intel for this
>> week's TechTAK.
>>
>> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>>
>> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the "Why arn't yer intel
>> chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo
>> WAILS on the Athlon64 X2 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into
>> consideration the thermal problems that AMD has.
>>
>> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is made...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

They have redesigned the microarchitecture. Netburst is gone. The two big
issues center around messaging on the chip and power consumption. AMD's
hypertransport technology was so much more efficient than the Pentium
technology that Intel had to respond.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:%23aSLqSVwGHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I'm not sure I'm following what your saying. Core2 Duo
> is so much more than raw clock speed. It seems to me
> Intel has actually been emphasizing the overall structure/
> performance of the chip and not so much the clock speed.
>
> -Michael
>
> "Alan Simpson" <noreply@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uF%23AE2UwGHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I don't know who your audience is, but another topic that might be worth
>>bring up centers around how the Extreme products are different in the Core
>>2 Duo. In previous products it seemed to center around faster FSB, larger
>>cache, and HyperThreading (the latter apparently extint in Core 2?). To
>>look at some current specs it seems to be just about clock speed.
>>
>>
>> "Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
>> news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>>>
>>> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
>>> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>>>
>>> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>>>
>>> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
>>> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
>>> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
>>> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration
>>> the thermal problems that AMD has.
>>>
>>> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
>>> made...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Hyperthreading is gone.

"Alan Simpson" <noreply@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uF%23AE2UwGHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I don't know who your audience is, but another topic that might be worth
>bring up centers around how the Extreme products are different in the Core
>2 Duo. In previous products it seemed to center around faster FSB, larger
>cache, and HyperThreading (the latter apparently extint in Core 2?). To
>look at some current specs it seems to be just about clock speed.
>
>
> "Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
> news:ewOLuQSwGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Okay folks...this is short notice, but I HAVE to ask...
>>
>> I will be doing a phone interview with the PR manager for the Core2 Duo
>> from Intel for this week's TechTAK.
>>
>> What questions, if you were doing the interview, would you ask?
>>
>> And please, I could really use some INTELLIGENT questions, not just the
>> "Why arn't yer intel chips as gudd as the amd chips?" Because, to be
>> honest, I have them both and the Core2 Duo WAILS on the Athlon64 X2
>> 4800... by a LONG shot. And that's not even taking into consideration
>> the thermal problems that AMD has.
>>
>> So give me some questions...y'all got about 8 hours before the call is
>> made...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:44e33010$0$25784$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
> How is Hyperthreading applied? If I have 2 dual core processors and enable
> hyperthreading, will I have 4 or 8 logical processors?
>
> --
> The personal opinion of
> Gary G. Little

This one is being asked with "Is hyperthreading being killed off
completely?"

None of the core2 duos have hyperthreading.

and to answer your question: If you have 2 PentiumEE (Extreme edition)
processors, which is dual core with hyperthreading, you have 4 logical
processors.