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Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?

  1. #1


    Max Guest

    Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?

    Hi people,

    on my Vista Ultimate I have just create another user account, (for a friend
    of my) how is only members of USERS

    on my HDD E:\ the security rights are those:

    Authenticated users = ~Full control
    SYSTEM = ful control
    Administrators = full control
    and
    Users = Read & execute, List folder contents, Read

    but with this new account I can still remove thing on E:\ !!!!!!!!



    (the security settings of the delete test file are the same as the root
    Disk)

    So what happen ??




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  2. #2


    Max Guest

    Re: Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?


    ok now I have remove the "Authenticated users" privilege on a file to test
    and now it working he cannot delete this file,

    but what is this new group under Vista ? and why "simple Users" by default
    can delete file !!!!
    and why under managing Local Users & Groups I can't see the group
    Authenticated users ??

    thx people


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  3. #3


    Mike Brannigan Guest

    Re: Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?

    "Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:9317D38F-B72D-4AA1-B1B5-972B15F55A74@xxxxxx

    >
    > ok now I have remove the "Authenticated users" privilege on a file to
    > test and now it working he cannot delete this file,
    >
    > but what is this new group under Vista ? and why "simple Users" by default
    > can delete file !!!!
    > and why under managing Local Users & Groups I can't see the group
    > Authenticated users ??
    >
    > thx people
    You cannot see Authenticated Users under Local Users & Groups as it not a
    group you can add or remove anyone from.
    It is a computed group that represents all accounts that are currently
    correctly authenticated by the local security subsystem on that device.

    --

    Mike Brannigan


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  4. #4


    Jesper Guest

    Re: Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?

    The dynamic group "Authenticated Users" was added in Windows NT 4.0 Service
    Pack 4. It is hardly new.
    ---
    Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20


    "Mike Brannigan" wrote:

    > "Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:9317D38F-B72D-4AA1-B1B5-972B15F55A74@xxxxxx

    > >
    > > ok now I have remove the "Authenticated users" privilege on a file to
    > > test and now it working he cannot delete this file,
    > >
    > > but what is this new group under Vista ? and why "simple Users" by default
    > > can delete file !!!!
    > > and why under managing Local Users & Groups I can't see the group
    > > Authenticated users ??
    > >
    > > thx people
    >
    > You cannot see Authenticated Users under Local Users & Groups as it not a
    > group you can add or remove anyone from.
    > It is a computed group that represents all accounts that are currently
    > correctly authenticated by the local security subsystem on that device.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mike Brannigan
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Mike Brannigan Guest

    Re: Huge Bug in security Filesystem of NTFS ?

    I never said it was new - maybe you meant to reply to the original poster.

    --

    Mike Brannigan
    "Jesper" <Jesper@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:977D3F5C-BCC3-4149-8343-75E2C747708F@xxxxxx

    > The dynamic group "Authenticated Users" was added in Windows NT 4.0
    > Service
    > Pack 4. It is hardly new.
    > ---
    > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
    > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20
    >
    >
    > "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
    >

    >> "Max" <twinsen24@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:9317D38F-B72D-4AA1-B1B5-972B15F55A74@xxxxxx

    >> >
    >> > ok now I have remove the "Authenticated users" privilege on a file to
    >> > test and now it working he cannot delete this file,
    >> >
    >> > but what is this new group under Vista ? and why "simple Users" by
    >> > default
    >> > can delete file !!!!
    >> > and why under managing Local Users & Groups I can't see the group
    >> > Authenticated users ??
    >> >
    >> > thx people
    >>
    >> You cannot see Authenticated Users under Local Users & Groups as it not a
    >> group you can add or remove anyone from.
    >> It is a computed group that represents all accounts that are currently
    >> correctly authenticated by the local security subsystem on that device.
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Mike Brannigan
    >>

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