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Old 05-27-2008   #1 (permalink)
Abby
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trojans

I just picked up a Trojan somewhere. Window's Defender removed it. Now I'm
wondering what I did wrong. A week or so ago, I got a pop-up claiming that I
had no virus protection and saying that "they" were going to do a scan. I DO
have virus protection (McAfee), so I knew this wasn't legit. I had a hard
time shutting it down, but I did. I did three scans in Safe mode (McAfee,
Defender and Super AntiSpyware Free) and found nothing. I am wondering if
this Trojan came from that and just wasn't detected until now. If not, could
it have come from an Email attachment? My friends are always sending me
forwarded things which I enjoy. I do have email scanning enabled, and only
open ones that say "No unsafe attachments detected". Is it okay to open
these forwarded items, or should I not? I have Window's Vista Home Premium.
Thank you for your time.
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Sincerely, Abby
 
Old 05-27-2008   #2 (permalink)
Abby
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RE: trojans

I failed to give the name of the Trojan my computer was infected with. It is
Trojan:JS/Agent.FA Since Window's Defender says that it was successfully
removed, is there anything else I need to do?
--
Sincerely, Abby


"Abby" wrote:
Quote:

> I just picked up a Trojan somewhere. Window's Defender removed it. Now I'm
> wondering what I did wrong. A week or so ago, I got a pop-up claiming that I
> had no virus protection and saying that "they" were going to do a scan. I DO
> have virus protection (McAfee), so I knew this wasn't legit. I had a hard
> time shutting it down, but I did. I did three scans in Safe mode (McAfee,
> Defender and Super AntiSpyware Free) and found nothing. I am wondering if
> this Trojan came from that and just wasn't detected until now. If not, could
> it have come from an Email attachment? My friends are always sending me
> forwarded things which I enjoy. I do have email scanning enabled, and only
> open ones that say "No unsafe attachments detected". Is it okay to open
> these forwarded items, or should I not? I have Window's Vista Home Premium.
> Thank you for your time.
> --
> Sincerely, Abby
 
Old 05-27-2008   #3 (permalink)
DL
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Re: trojans

Generally anti virus apps are not good, but improving, on detecting malaware
Obviously McAfee didnt detect it
It is often neccessary to use 2 or 3 malaware apps, MS Defender being one.
SpyBot & Adaware, free versions, are others often reccommended. You have to
explicitly run them, they dont run in the background.
I would have expected MS Defender to block the instalation of this trojan,
it didnt.

"Abby" <Abby@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:648E2270-6961-4B92-918E-78023843DB2F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I failed to give the name of the Trojan my computer was infected with. It
>is
> Trojan:JS/Agent.FA Since Window's Defender says that it was successfully
> removed, is there anything else I need to do?
> --
> Sincerely, Abby
>
>
> "Abby" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I just picked up a Trojan somewhere. Window's Defender removed it. Now
>> I'm
>> wondering what I did wrong. A week or so ago, I got a pop-up claiming
>> that I
>> had no virus protection and saying that "they" were going to do a scan.
>> I DO
>> have virus protection (McAfee), so I knew this wasn't legit. I had a
>> hard
>> time shutting it down, but I did. I did three scans in Safe mode
>> (McAfee,
>> Defender and Super AntiSpyware Free) and found nothing. I am wondering
>> if
>> this Trojan came from that and just wasn't detected until now. If not,
>> could
>> it have come from an Email attachment? My friends are always sending me
>> forwarded things which I enjoy. I do have email scanning enabled, and
>> only
>> open ones that say "No unsafe attachments detected". Is it okay to open
>> these forwarded items, or should I not? I have Window's Vista Home
>> Premium.
>> Thank you for your time.
>> --
>> Sincerely, Abby

 
Old 05-27-2008   #4 (permalink)
Abby
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Re: trojans

Defender was turned off. I thought I wasn't supposed to have real-time
protection on since I have the McAfee.
--
Sincerely, Abby


"DL" wrote:
Quote:

> Generally anti virus apps are not good, but improving, on detecting malaware
> Obviously McAfee didnt detect it
> It is often neccessary to use 2 or 3 malaware apps, MS Defender being one.
> SpyBot & Adaware, free versions, are others often reccommended. You have to
> explicitly run them, they dont run in the background.
> I would have expected MS Defender to block the instalation of this trojan,
> it didnt.
>
> "Abby" <Abby@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:648E2270-6961-4B92-918E-78023843DB2F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I failed to give the name of the Trojan my computer was infected with. It
> >is
> > Trojan:JS/Agent.FA Since Window's Defender says that it was successfully
> > removed, is there anything else I need to do?
> > --
> > Sincerely, Abby
> >
> >
> > "Abby" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> I just picked up a Trojan somewhere. Window's Defender removed it. Now
> >> I'm
> >> wondering what I did wrong. A week or so ago, I got a pop-up claiming
> >> that I
> >> had no virus protection and saying that "they" were going to do a scan.
> >> I DO
> >> have virus protection (McAfee), so I knew this wasn't legit. I had a
> >> hard
> >> time shutting it down, but I did. I did three scans in Safe mode
> >> (McAfee,
> >> Defender and Super AntiSpyware Free) and found nothing. I am wondering
> >> if
> >> this Trojan came from that and just wasn't detected until now. If not,
> >> could
> >> it have come from an Email attachment? My friends are always sending me
> >> forwarded things which I enjoy. I do have email scanning enabled, and
> >> only
> >> open ones that say "No unsafe attachments detected". Is it okay to open
> >> these forwarded items, or should I not? I have Window's Vista Home
> >> Premium.
> >> Thank you for your time.
> >> --
> >> Sincerely, Abby
>
>
>
 
Old 05-28-2008   #5 (permalink)
DL
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Re: trojans

You can leave Defender on, just ensure any scans you have scheduled don't
coincide with any McAfee scheduled ones.
Its multiple anti virus apps you cannot run together, and often not install,
Defender is not an AV app.

"Abby" <Abby@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Defender was turned off. I thought I wasn't supposed to have real-time
> protection on since I have the McAfee.
> --
> Sincerely, Abby
>
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Generally anti virus apps are not good, but improving, on detecting
>> malaware
>> Obviously McAfee didnt detect it
>> It is often neccessary to use 2 or 3 malaware apps, MS Defender being
>> one.
>> SpyBot & Adaware, free versions, are others often reccommended. You have
>> to
>> explicitly run them, they dont run in the background.
>> I would have expected MS Defender to block the instalation of this
>> trojan,
>> it didnt.
>>
>> "Abby" <Abby@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:648E2270-6961-4B92-918E-78023843DB2F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> >I failed to give the name of the Trojan my computer was infected with.
>> >It
>> >is
>> > Trojan:JS/Agent.FA Since Window's Defender says that it was
>> > successfully
>> > removed, is there anything else I need to do?
>> > --
>> > Sincerely, Abby
>> >
>> >
>> > "Abby" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just picked up a Trojan somewhere. Window's Defender removed it.
>> >> Now
>> >> I'm
>> >> wondering what I did wrong. A week or so ago, I got a pop-up claiming
>> >> that I
>> >> had no virus protection and saying that "they" were going to do a
>> >> scan.
>> >> I DO
>> >> have virus protection (McAfee), so I knew this wasn't legit. I had a
>> >> hard
>> >> time shutting it down, but I did. I did three scans in Safe mode
>> >> (McAfee,
>> >> Defender and Super AntiSpyware Free) and found nothing. I am
>> >> wondering
>> >> if
>> >> this Trojan came from that and just wasn't detected until now. If
>> >> not,
>> >> could
>> >> it have come from an Email attachment? My friends are always sending
>> >> me
>> >> forwarded things which I enjoy. I do have email scanning enabled, and
>> >> only
>> >> open ones that say "No unsafe attachments detected". Is it okay to
>> >> open
>> >> these forwarded items, or should I not? I have Window's Vista Home
>> >> Premium.
>> >> Thank you for your time.
>> >> --
>> >> Sincerely, Abby
>>
>>
>>

 
Old 05-28-2008   #6 (permalink)
Jason
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RE: trojans

Defender is crap. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky. That is a common piece of spyware you got, and is usually hard to remove. If it returns I suggest a re installation.


Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums
 
Old 05-28-2008   #7 (permalink)
DL
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Re: trojans

Defender is not an anti virus app

<Jason> wrote in message news:ub8cDVNwIHA.4476@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Defender is crap. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky. That is a common
> piece of spyware you got, and is usually hard to remove. If it returns I
> suggest a re installation.
>
>
> Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums

 
Old 05-29-2008   #8 (permalink)
Mick Murphy
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RE: trojans

You obviously know nothing about computers!
Keep your stupidity to yourself!
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Jason" wrote:
Quote:

> Defender is crap. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky. That is a common piece of spyware you got, and is usually hard to remove. If it returns I suggest a re installation.
>
>
> Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums
>
 
Old 05-29-2008   #9 (permalink)
Abby
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RE: trojans

To Mr. Murphy: I think your anger is directed toward Jason. For the record,
I admit that I know nothing. That's why I asked for help! With so many
different opinions as to what is good or bad, I decided to have a pro from my
computer company take a look at my comuter (by remote). He ran "Hijack This"
and found three pieces of malware that had been missed by all of my security
programs. Nothing beats an expert eye.
--
Sincerely, Abby


"Mick Murphy" wrote:
Quote:

> You obviously know nothing about computers!
> Keep your stupidity to yourself!
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "Jason" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Defender is crap. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky. That is a common piece of spyware you got, and is usually hard to remove. If it returns I suggest a re installation.
> >
> >
> > Post Originated from http://www.VistaForums.com Vista Support Forums
> >
 
Old 05-29-2008   #10 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: trojans

On Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:35 -0700, Jason wrote:
Quote:

> Defender is crap. Get a good antivirus like Kaspersky.

Kaspersky is indeed a good anti-virus program. However, Defender is
*not* crap. Moreover, Kaspersky is an anti-virus, and Defender is
anti-spyware. There is little or no overlap in what they protect
against.

For good protection, you need *both* a anti-virus and an anti-spyware
software. And when it comes to anti-spyware, one program is not
enough.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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