Vista - Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's

08-06-2008

Thanks for responses. I was able to finally get this user's folder shared.
The way I ended up doing it is very strange. In Active Directory I had to
take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy applied to it,
and then move it back to the OU it was in. Once I did that I could ping his
PC and map drives to his shared folders. Make sense??

I experimented with another Vista PC here. I could not see this PC in the
network nor could I ping it. I tried pinging several IP's in the range that
this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies. I shared
some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them. I moved the PC to
an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where it belonged,
restarted once again. Now I am able to see the PC in the network, I can
ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared folders. And even more
oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what turned out to be the PC's
IP, I got an incorrect host name.

I'm not sure why this works. But it did. It just makes me love Vista even
more.

Thanks again for the help

"ProfQ" <pseudo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:g72ed7$435$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Dave D wrote:

Quote:

>> Hello. We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's. These
>> PC's are on a domain. We go through the sharing process and add the
>> names of users. The process seems to complete properly. When the other
>> user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes back
>> that the network path can not be found. We have tried turning off the
>> Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection. I have also noticed
>> that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's. I get 'request timed out'
>> messages. Any thoughts of what might be going on with these PC's??
>> Thanks much for any thoughts.

>
> Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I
> had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB (Kerry
> Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his advice
> works.
>
> The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password on
> all the computers. Yes, a password is needed.
>
> Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password,
> when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to
> another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name
> \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you
> created on all the machines. This works.
>
> Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the
> machines.

08-06-2008

Yes, it can be quite a pain to setup Vista on a mixed network.
I suppose if you can't access the machine or share, it's more secure.
That isn't how I like to increase security...LOL

--
A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx
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"Dave D" <djdeboer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Thanks for responses. I was able to finally get this user's folder
> shared. The way I ended up doing it is very strange. In Active Directory
> I had to take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy
> applied to it, and then move it back to the OU it was in. Once I did that
> I could ping his PC and map drives to his shared folders. Make sense??
>
> I experimented with another Vista PC here. I could not see this PC in the
> network nor could I ping it. I tried pinging several IP's in the range
> that this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies. I
> shared some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them. I moved
> the PC to an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where
> it belonged, restarted once again. Now I am able to see the PC in the
> network, I can ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared
> folders. And even more oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what
> turned out to be the PC's IP, I got an incorrect host name.
>
> I'm not sure why this works. But it did. It just makes me love Vista
> even more.
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
>
> "ProfQ" <pseudo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:g72ed7$435$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Dave D wrote:

Quote:

>>> Hello. We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's. These
>>> PC's are on a domain. We go through the sharing process and add the
>>> names of users. The process seems to complete properly. When the
>>> other user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes
>>> back that the network path can not be found. We have tried turning off
>>> the Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection. I have also
>>> noticed that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's. I get 'request
>>> timed out' messages. Any thoughts of what might be going on with these
>>> PC's?? Thanks much for any thoughts.

>>
>> Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I
>> had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB
>> (Kerry Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his
>> advice works.
>>
>> The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password
>> on all the computers. Yes, a password is needed.
>>
>> Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password,
>> when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to
>> another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name
>> \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you
>> created on all the machines. This works.
>>
>> Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the
>> machines.

>

ahughes · 08-06-2008

You may end up having these issues again. When you moved the workstation back into the OU it was having the issues in it may not have picked up the group policy settings applied to this OU that broke it in the first place. When testing GPO related issues always run gpupdate /force and then reboot the machine in order to verify functionality.

I would advise creating seperate workstation policies using WMI filters targetting just your Vista Workstations and others that just target your XP - if you have 2000 clients upgrade them!

I've resolved serious group policy conflicts doing this, namely firewall related. The Vista firewall policies should only be configured under Windows Firewall with Advanced security. The firewall settings for your XP clients under components - network - network connections - firewall stuff - this may not be related to the issues you're seeing but it just might!

Aaron Hughes MCSA/MCSE, CCA
Network Admin - Wa state

08-06-2008	#1 (permalink)
Dave D n/a posts	Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's Thanks for responses. I was able to finally get this user's folder shared. The way I ended up doing it is very strange. In Active Directory I had to take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy applied to it, and then move it back to the OU it was in. Once I did that I could ping his PC and map drives to his shared folders. Make sense?? I experimented with another Vista PC here. I could not see this PC in the network nor could I ping it. I tried pinging several IP's in the range that this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies. I shared some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them. I moved the PC to an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where it belonged, restarted once again. Now I am able to see the PC in the network, I can ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared folders. And even more oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what turned out to be the PC's IP, I got an incorrect host name. I'm not sure why this works. But it did. It just makes me love Vista even more. Thanks again for the help "ProfQ" <pseudo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:g72ed7$435$1@xxxxxx Quote: > Dave D wrote: Quote: >> Hello. We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's. These >> PC's are on a domain. We go through the sharing process and add the >> names of users. The process seems to complete properly. When the other >> user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes back >> that the network path can not be found. We have tried turning off the >> Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection. I have also noticed >> that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's. I get 'request timed out' >> messages. Any thoughts of what might be going on with these PC's?? >> Thanks much for any thoughts. > > Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I > had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB (Kerry > Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his advice > works. > > The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password on > all the computers. Yes, a password is needed. > > Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password, > when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to > another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name > \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you > created on all the machines. This works. > > Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the > machines.
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08-06-2008	#2 (permalink)
Not Me n/a posts	Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's Yes, it can be quite a pain to setup Vista on a mixed network. I suppose if you can't access the machine or share, it's more secure. That isn't how I like to increase security...LOL -- A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx Change Alpha to Numeric to reply "Dave D" <djdeboer@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Ob4IMK%239IHA.4552@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks for responses. I was able to finally get this user's folder > shared. The way I ended up doing it is very strange. In Active Directory > I had to take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy > applied to it, and then move it back to the OU it was in. Once I did that > I could ping his PC and map drives to his shared folders. Make sense?? > > I experimented with another Vista PC here. I could not see this PC in the > network nor could I ping it. I tried pinging several IP's in the range > that this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies. I > shared some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them. I moved > the PC to an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where > it belonged, restarted once again. Now I am able to see the PC in the > network, I can ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared > folders. And even more oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what > turned out to be the PC's IP, I got an incorrect host name. > > I'm not sure why this works. But it did. It just makes me love Vista > even more. > > Thanks again for the help > > > "ProfQ" <pseudo@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:g72ed7$435$1@xxxxxx Quote: >> Dave D wrote: Quote: >>> Hello. We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's. These >>> PC's are on a domain. We go through the sharing process and add the >>> names of users. The process seems to complete properly. When the >>> other user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes >>> back that the network path can not be found. We have tried turning off >>> the Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection. I have also >>> noticed that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's. I get 'request >>> timed out' messages. Any thoughts of what might be going on with these >>> PC's?? Thanks much for any thoughts. >> >> Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I >> had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB >> (Kerry Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his >> advice works. >> >> The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password >> on all the computers. Yes, a password is needed. >> >> Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password, >> when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to >> another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name >> \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you >> created on all the machines. This works. >> >> Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the >> machines. >
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08-06-2008	#3 (permalink)
ahughes Vista 32bit enterprise 2 posts	Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's You may end up having these issues again. When you moved the workstation back into the OU it was having the issues in it may not have picked up the group policy settings applied to this OU that broke it in the first place. When testing GPO related issues always run gpupdate /force and then reboot the machine in order to verify functionality. I would advise creating seperate workstation policies using WMI filters targetting just your Vista Workstations and others that just target your XP - if you have 2000 clients upgrade them! I've resolved serious group policy conflicts doing this, namely firewall related. The Vista firewall policies should only be configured under Windows Firewall with Advanced security. The firewall settings for your XP clients under components - network - network connections - firewall stuff - this may not be related to the issues you're seeing but it just might! Aaron Hughes MCSA/MCSE, CCA Network Admin - Wa state
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