Vista - Botnet threat fiction?

**DAS WULF** · 08-17-2008

I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program.

08-17-2008

"DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have
> any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a
> precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program.
>
>

What are you talking about?

**DAS WULF** · 08-18-2008

here are some links.

US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security - iTnews Australia

Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

08-18-2008

"DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> here are some links.
>
> 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security -
> iTnews Australia'
> (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,...et-danger.aspx)
>
> 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet)
>
>

Yeah, well you're right. US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as
the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and they
don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices.

I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not allowing
the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights, and the Admin
is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on the Internet and
something is happening that requires Full Admin rights, then the user is
prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is a Standard user,
then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an Admin account to
proceed. At least, something would be in their face forcing them take
notice that something could be happening good or bad, if they recognize the
situation.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin...ta-45312.shtml
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx

It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user or
a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user is
prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will
processed.

UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user
recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hu...t-Infected-Ad/

08-19-2008

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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Quote:

>
> "DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:a8db032830ec1b65a992213b0773063b@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

Quote:

>>
>> here are some links.
>>
>> 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security -
>> iTnews Australia'
>> (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,...et-danger.aspx)
>>
>> 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet)
>>
>>

>
> Yeah, well you're right. US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as
> the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and
> they don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices.
>
> I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not
> allowing the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights,
> and the Admin is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on
> the Internet and something is happening that requires Full Admin rights,
> then the user is prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is
> a Standard user, then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an
> Admin account to proceed. At least, something would be in their face
> forcing them take notice that something could be happening good or bad, if
> they recognize the situation.
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin...ta-45312.shtml
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
>
> It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user
> or a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user
> is prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will
> processed.
>
> UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user
> recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted.
>
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hu...t-Infected-Ad/

There is a simple solution: all your traffic through a safe channel. Ever
heard of OpenDNS? Visit opendns.com and read it. It saved me several times
from attacks.

08-17-2008	#1 (permalink)
DAS WULF VHP32bit 10 posts	Botnet threat fiction? I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program.
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08-17-2008	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Botnet threat fiction? "DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:bead81a2f1d05b911ef0b8ce1c1d6e23@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: > > I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have > any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a > precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program. > > What are you talking about?
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08-18-2008	#3 (permalink)
DAS WULF VHP32bit 10 posts	Re: Botnet threat fiction? here are some links. US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security - iTnews Australia Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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08-18-2008	#4 (permalink)
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Botnet threat fiction? "DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:a8db032830ec1b65a992213b0773063b@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: > > here are some links. > > 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security - > iTnews Australia' > (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,...et-danger.aspx) > > 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet) > > Yeah, well you're right. US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and they don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices. I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not allowing the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights, and the Admin is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on the Internet and something is happening that requires Full Admin rights, then the user is prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is a Standard user, then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an Admin account to proceed. At least, something would be in their face forcing them take notice that something could be happening good or bad, if they recognize the situation. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin...ta-45312.shtml http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user or a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user is prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will processed. UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hu...t-Infected-Ad/
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08-19-2008	#5 (permalink)
Flight n/a posts	Re: Botnet threat fiction? "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht news:uARQAkQAJHA.4064@xxxxxx Quote: > > "DAS WULF" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:a8db032830ec1b65a992213b0773063b@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: >> >> here are some links. >> >> 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security - >> iTnews Australia' >> (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,...et-danger.aspx) >> >> 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet) >> >> > > Yeah, well you're right. US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as > the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and > they don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices. > > I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not > allowing the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights, > and the Admin is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on > the Internet and something is happening that requires Full Admin rights, > then the user is prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is > a Standard user, then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an > Admin account to proceed. At least, something would be in their face > forcing them take notice that something could be happening good or bad, if > they recognize the situation. > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin...ta-45312.shtml > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx > > It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user > or a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user > is prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will > processed. > > UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user > recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted. > > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hu...t-Infected-Ad/ There is a simple solution: all your traffic through a safe channel. Ever heard of OpenDNS? Visit opendns.com and read it. It saved me several times from attacks.
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