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| | Bitlocker on a New Laptop I recently purchased a new laptop and have a copy of Vista Ultimate (from the Server 2008 launch event). Although my laptop isn't connected to a domain, I'm wondering if it's a good idea to implement Bitlocker on a personal laptop for data protection and such. Appreciate any thoughts/suggestions. |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop If your laptop has a TPM security chip (version 1.2 or later) do use BitLocker. It will give you very good privacy protection for your data. I use it, and wouldn't be without it. But then I always prefer paranoia class security. regards the ancient mariner "Big Dog" <BigDog@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelelsen news:EA4E2E33-93BD-47C9-8A37-D6F5448F5EF1@xxxxxx Quote: >I recently purchased a new laptop and have a copy of Vista Ultimate (from >the > Server 2008 launch event). > > Although my laptop isn't connected to a domain, I'm wondering if it's a > good > idea to implement Bitlocker on a personal laptop for data protection and > such. > > Appreciate any thoughts/suggestions. |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the workaround (use a USB drive for the password). Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in the process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that preventive paranoia is always good. |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop Big Dog wrote: Quote: > Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the workaround (use > a USB drive for the password). > > Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in the > process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that preventive paranoia > is always good. catastrophically fails (which it will if you continue writing to it which wears it out due to oxide stress which eventually surpasses the recovery space and error algorithms to mask out the errors)? |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop You can back up the startup key to another USB drive via: Control Panel -> Security -> Bitlocker -> Manage Bitlocker keys -> Duplicate the startup key Also - when you encrypt a drive, you get a printable recovery password. This can be used in instead of the USB key. Cheers! "VanguardLH" <V@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23Jd%23vJZBJHA.4368@xxxxxx Quote: > Big Dog wrote: > Quote: >> Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the workaround >> (use >> a USB drive for the password). >> >> Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in the >> process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that preventive >> paranoia >> is always good. > What happens when the USB thumb drive gets lost, damaged, or > catastrophically fails (which it will if you continue writing to it > which wears it out due to oxide stress which eventually surpasses the > recovery space and error algorithms to mask out the errors)? |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop Chris wrote: Quote: > "VanguardLH" wrote ... Quote: >> >> Big Dog wrote: >> Quote: >>> Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the >>> workaround (use a USB drive for the password). >>> >>> Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in >>> the process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that >>> preventive paranoia is always good. >> What happens when the USB thumb drive gets lost, damaged, or >> catastrophically fails (which it will if you continue writing to it >> which wears it out due to oxide stress which eventually surpasses >> the recovery space and error algorithms to mask out the errors)? > You can back up the startup key to another USB drive via: > > Control Panel -> Security -> Bitlocker -> Manage Bitlocker keys -> Duplicate > the startup key > > Also - when you encrypt a drive, you get a printable recovery password. > This can be used in instead of the USB key. backup to using just a USB thumb drive as an encryption dongle. I just wanted to prod the "what if" scenario. Even with the printout, it won't (and shouldn't) be in the bag with a laptop (and neither should the USB dongle), and there might be no one at home you can call to get it. Even if you create a backup USB thumb drive, it's likely you won't have it with you when traveling (and when theft of the computer is highest). You're screwed until you get back home. Personally, and if TPM wasn't available, I'd be leery of relying on a USB thumb drive to maintain my access to the hard disk versus, say, instead using whole-disk encryption that only requires me to remember a password. If the OP goes the USB drive route, he should read: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923123/en-us http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923124/en-us |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop "VanguardLH" <V@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht news:ub3dAXaBJHA.4108@xxxxxx Quote: > Chris wrote: > Quote: >> "VanguardLH" wrote ... Quote: >>> >>> Big Dog wrote: >>> >>>> Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the >>>> workaround (use a USB drive for the password). >>>> >>>> Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in >>>> the process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that >>>> preventive paranoia is always good. >>> >>> What happens when the USB thumb drive gets lost, damaged, or >>> catastrophically fails (which it will if you continue writing to it >>> which wears it out due to oxide stress which eventually surpasses >>> the recovery space and error algorithms to mask out the errors)? >> You can back up the startup key to another USB drive via: >> >> Control Panel -> Security -> Bitlocker -> Manage Bitlocker keys -> >> Duplicate >> the startup key >> >> Also - when you encrypt a drive, you get a printable recovery password. >> This can be used in instead of the USB key. > That was what I alluded to - that something ELSE should be use as a > backup to using just a USB thumb drive as an encryption dongle. I just > wanted to prod the "what if" scenario. Even with the printout, it won't > (and shouldn't) be in the bag with a laptop (and neither should the USB > dongle), and there might be no one at home you can call to get it. Even > if you create a backup USB thumb drive, it's likely you won't have it > with you when traveling (and when theft of the computer is highest). > You're screwed until you get back home. > > Personally, and if TPM wasn't available, I'd be leery of relying on a > USB thumb drive to maintain my access to the hard disk versus, say, > instead using whole-disk encryption that only requires me to remember a > password. > > If the OP goes the USB drive route, he should read: > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923123/en-us > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923124/en-us or to cheat it. Don't rely on it. |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop That's why our preferred recommendation is to use both a TPM and a PIN -- essentially storing part of the SRK (storage root key) in the TPM and part of the SRK in your brain. If you don't have a TPM, then I'd suggest a PIN rather than a USB drive, simply because it means that you don't have to worry about keeping track of the drive. It's unlikely that you'd forget the PIN since you'd have to enter it every time you booted on your PC; nevertheless, remember that you can also create a recovery password. Store the recovery password on a piece of paper (that is, print it out) and protect this piece of paper. Ideal candidates for protecting it include wallets and purses. And please don't label it "My BitLocker recovery password"! ![]() -- Steve Riley steve.riley@xxxxxx http://blogs.technet.com/steriley http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com "VanguardLH" <V@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#Jd#vJZBJHA.4368@xxxxxx Quote: > Big Dog wrote: > Quote: >> Thanx - it doesn't have a TPM chip, but I do know about the workaround >> (use >> a USB drive for the password). >> >> Just partitioned the drive to the appropriate two volumes and am in the >> process of reinstalling everything. Agree with you that preventive >> paranoia >> is always good. > What happens when the USB thumb drive gets lost, damaged, or > catastrophically fails (which it will if you continue writing to it > which wears it out due to oxide stress which eventually surpasses the > recovery space and error algorithms to mask out the errors)? |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop VanguardLH wrote: Quote: > (and when theft of the computer is highest). reading. Oops, should've been "and when the dongle might break" |
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| | Re: Bitlocker on a New Laptop Steve Riley [MSFT] wrote: Quote: > And please don't label it "My BitLocker recovery password"! ![]() driver's license to find out where is your house. Of course, if you are the gender or type that carries a purse, the wallet, key ring, and USB thumb drive are all together to capture in one swoop. |
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