Vista - Windows Security and Newsgroups

Yes I is.

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Coogee wrote:Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader
I use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is
required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free,
it is only for subscribers. I have the option of using any server I want
outside of my ISP, but I would likely have to pay extra for it.

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Dave T.


You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito,
Emporer of Japan

"Dave T." <davey@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@xxxxxxInteresting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a
particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes
you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the
news server....way to go USA!

Gordon wrote:
Is the real you about to show here?

Gordon wrote:
My apologies, I wasn't very clear. No user name or password for the news
server, just the ISP. The thing is that T-bird is an all in one just
like windows mail. It handles mail and news and whenever I open t-bird
the first thing it does is log on to the ISP to download mail and news
headers.

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Dave T.


You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito,
Emporer of Japan

Paul Montgomery wrote:It does when your reader is downloading mail from a pop server.

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Dave T.


You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito,
Emporer of Japan

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, Gordon wrote:
And you'd be wrong. Access is typically controlled by restricting the
subnet from which access can be gained to those subnets controlled by the
ISP in question. While there are some ISPs that use PPOE most are simply
direct connect with no user name or password required.

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Paul Adare
MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
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Your password is pitifully obvious.

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:24:33 +0100, Gordon wrote:
<sigh> - No they don't. The MAC address is registered with the provider
which is what allows one to get an IP address, there is no user name and
password assigned. You seem to think you know a lot about this for someone
who isn't even on this continent.

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Paul Adare
MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
http://www.identit.ca
The moving cursor prints, and having printed, blinks on.

<double sigh> You are both right and both wrong.

Paul - yeah, depending on your service, you put a username and password into
the MODEM. My DSL modem/router certainly does have a place to put my
username and password and if I don't put them in there it won't connect.

Gordon - yeah, that's true for DSL ... but for CABLE modems, there is no
place to put a username and password, the MAC address controls whether or
not you can access the Internet.

So both of you may wish to consider that your view depends entirely on the
direction one is looking in. ;-)

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"Paul Adare - MVP" <pkadare@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for all the activity to my question, but I still haven't got answer I
can use. Lots of noise on whether you need to sign on or not. I DO! Anyway
this must be a problem with Vista that hasn't been fixed yet - hard for me
to believe. Now I have the same problem on my MAIL server, which I didn't
have before. So now I can't get mail or newsgroups. Such agita.

"Coogee" <coogee@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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